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The article on the Steve Irwin reports that the ship is armed with 2 25mm cannon and 4 12.7mm cannon. For what purpose would it be armed, and what is the source that it is armed? If it was armed in the past, it is likely that said arms would be removed for the usage of a so-called peaceful protest organization. 142.231.68.81 ( talk) 20:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You didn't answer my question, just gave your opinion of the organization. No sources indicate that these weapons have ever been used, or even that they exist. Until a reliable source indicates that said weapons exist, they should be removed from the article. 142.231.68.81 ( talk) 20:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
i cant give a soruce, but through all the pictures ive seen of it, no weapons are visable. however the ship was once used by the britsh navy for patrols, so those weapons were on it then, not now. the only armament it has now is a water canon. this should be clarified —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 22:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
i recentally toured the ship while it was docked in new jersey. no naval weapondry was visible anywhere, and there were no targeting systems or anything.
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This article needs significant fact-checking and better references. For instance, the 'Career' section claims that Sea Shepherd threw bottles of butyric acid on the decks of Kaiko Maru. The reference given:
...is from a blog page hosted by Mother Jones magazine which I doubt is subject to editorial review. Furthermore, it is not Kaiko Maru, but the Japanese ship Nisshin Maru, or rather its crew that accused Sea Shepherd of causing injuries. The captain of MV Steve Irwin disputes whether any injuries were caused. Aren't several incidents being conflated here? Let's try to get this straightened out, people! -- Araucaria ( talk) 14:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Grammar on this page needs a major cleanup —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.89.161 ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 January 2008
Should this page include a better discussion of the recent capture of 2 crewmen by the Whaling fleet? It is linked from the front page as if it were a news story, but there is only a sentence or 2 about the story. 192.84.89.129 ( talk) 00:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
What does MY stand for? -- Itinerant1 ( talk) 01:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
On January 15, 2008 two members of the crew of the vessel illegally boarded the Japanese whaling vessel Yashin Maru No. 2 without permission to present a letter to its captain.
Illegally boarded? What law to you believe they are breaking? I think that passage should read - On January 15, 2008 two members of the crew of the vessel boarded the Japanese whaling vessel Yashin Maru No. 2 without permission to present a letter of protest to its captain. -- Gavin77
As I've said before, there are definitely grounds in maritime law for calling this illegal, and there are sources which describe it as such, so I'm in no way opposed to the article saying that it is illegal, until someone says it's not. But I'm not sure what sort of bias you think the BBC has. A more neutral way of phrasing it would be to say that the activists boarded the ship, an act is claimed to be illegal (by the Japanese at least). The actual wording of the law as set out above, is murky, and it can (and probably will be) disputed by legal experts from the various nations involved. Were they there to cause criminal damage? To carry out violence or depredation? The altered wording would forestall us making a definite judgement events until one had been made in law. But I'm happy for the wording to stand as the evidence and sources lean more to illegal than legal at the moment. Benea ( talk) 17:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
It should read boarded. It is not for us to act as juror. The action happened in Australian waters, and precedents have been set where persons can board a vessel to present the ships captain with documentation or letters. It should be changed now. mightymouseman ( talk)
Butyric acid has similar properties to acetic acid (aka vinegar); "irritating to eyes" and "harmful to aquatic organisms" can be said about literally every chemical other than water. Bobxii ( talk) 03:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Hostages is clearly a POV term in this case and should not be used except in verbatim quotation from sources which use the term Nil Einne ( talk) 10:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
From the intro: MV Steve Irwin is a 59-meter (195-foot) conservation enforcement ship owned by Sea Shepherd. The vessel was built in 1975 and was a Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency patrol boat for 28 years.
The vessel was previously named the MV Robert Hunter after Canadian Robert Hunter
This should be rewritten to say that when owned by Sea Shepherd, it was previously called MV Robert Hunter. I'm sure it wasn't called that when it was a Scottish Fisheries vessel. The phrasing reads very ambiguously/unclearly. 86.133.214.216 ( talk) 11:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Suggest deleting this page which was created as a joke: MV Steve Irwin enjoying Brian Peppers' deals on meals whilst reading the Encyclopedia Dramatica on w.heels) Is there an admin in the audience?. JJL ( talk) 19:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, tagged for speedy already! JJL ( talk) 19:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
What's the point of dousing a whaling ship in a foul-smelling chemical? What do they think WHALES smell like inside? Flowers and strawberries? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk) 19:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Can we get a source on how long said smell lasts? Or if this really would be viable in preventing the sale of whale meat? I doubt that it would make much of an impact, probably a PR move by these guys.
It is actually very toxic and can blind a person. The smell is also quickly diluted in water. They only point is to harm people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.210.17 ( talk) 03:05, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
the reasons they use it is primarally, it smells terrible and it's non-toxic.(as a matter of fact its used as a food additive) so they cant hurt anyone unless they hit someone right in the face with it. it has a very low acidity(less than oragne juice or beer) so eye contact is the only way for it to harm someone. 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 18:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
check this story out [4]. should this be integrated into the article?- Aknorals ( talk) 02:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
unfotunatlly no one will test the bullet, badge, vest or anyother evidence and no one outsidethe 2 groups will deffinatlly state it one way or another,(with out being called biased) so to stay "neutral" its left "he claims to have been shot" 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 18:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The word "former" was added before "conservation enforcement ship" in the opening sentence in February with no explanation as to why. AFAIK the ship is still in service. Am I missing something? Ungovernable Force Poll: Which religious text should I read? 04:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
From the reports I've read, the Steve Irwin's crew is predominently, if not completely, caucasian, while the Japanese whaling ship's crews are all Japanese. Has there been anything in the press that has covered a possible racial or cultural factor involved in this confrontation between the environmentalists and the whalers? Cla68 ( talk) 02:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
SpudHawg was concerned that another editor dismissed it completely. All done. This is not a forum so we should just stop discussing it unless it improves the article. Cptnono ( talk) 06:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it would be an idea to mention the recon helicopter that is used by Sea Sheperd and usually lives on the MV Steve Irwin. I think it's a Sikorsky S-300. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.68.131 ( talk) 18:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
The Steve Irwin is actually the M/Y Steve Irwin, as seen by the following sources: http://www.seashepherd.org/who-we-are/the-fleet.html , http://rewilding.org/rewildit/47/sea-shepherd-ship-steve-irwin-engages-japanese-factory-ship-nisshin/ , Does the article need to be renamed, and if so, can someone do it? -Samnuva (Not logged in) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.5.91 ( talk) 23:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Steve Irwin (ship) would mean that the vessel is a full rigged ship, which she certainly is not. If consensus is that the article sits better at MV Steve Irwin then it can be moved there by an admin after deleting the redirect. This issue needs to be settled though, as we don't want to keep moving the article between two titles. Mjroots ( talk) 05:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
"The boat has been registered in the Netherlands as of October 8, 2007.[6]" Footnote 6 is a reference to a New Yorker article that does not support the assertion. 24.118.197.153 ( talk) 04:30, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The section on career from the second paragraph under 2009 and through the end of the section of 2010 does not present a neutral point of view. Nearly all of the sources come from one Sea Shepherd website and in several places the text is not supported by the by the citations. These sections should be re-written to provide a more neutral point of view that is support with citations. New Hampshirite ( talk) 02:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
The ship is listed as MV on Steve Irwin's site and MY on the boat's site itself...which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.183.100 ( talk) 08:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have a useable photo showing its new paint job? Spiffy. http://www.seashepherd.org/commentary-and-editorials/2011/04/07/the-changing-of-our-colors-10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.159.5 ( talk) 02:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
will some one please put photos of the new paint job up and doo it for the barker and bardot to — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.95.176.138 ( talk) 14:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, the Steve Irwin is done mate. -- Serendipityologist ( talk) 16:43, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the significance of the pseudo- pennant number 77 painted on the bow of this vessel is? -- saberwyn 00:11, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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The article on the Steve Irwin reports that the ship is armed with 2 25mm cannon and 4 12.7mm cannon. For what purpose would it be armed, and what is the source that it is armed? If it was armed in the past, it is likely that said arms would be removed for the usage of a so-called peaceful protest organization. 142.231.68.81 ( talk) 20:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You didn't answer my question, just gave your opinion of the organization. No sources indicate that these weapons have ever been used, or even that they exist. Until a reliable source indicates that said weapons exist, they should be removed from the article. 142.231.68.81 ( talk) 20:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
i cant give a soruce, but through all the pictures ive seen of it, no weapons are visable. however the ship was once used by the britsh navy for patrols, so those weapons were on it then, not now. the only armament it has now is a water canon. this should be clarified —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 22:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
i recentally toured the ship while it was docked in new jersey. no naval weapondry was visible anywhere, and there were no targeting systems or anything.
69.115.204.217 (
talk) 23:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
This article needs significant fact-checking and better references. For instance, the 'Career' section claims that Sea Shepherd threw bottles of butyric acid on the decks of Kaiko Maru. The reference given:
...is from a blog page hosted by Mother Jones magazine which I doubt is subject to editorial review. Furthermore, it is not Kaiko Maru, but the Japanese ship Nisshin Maru, or rather its crew that accused Sea Shepherd of causing injuries. The captain of MV Steve Irwin disputes whether any injuries were caused. Aren't several incidents being conflated here? Let's try to get this straightened out, people! -- Araucaria ( talk) 14:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Grammar on this page needs a major cleanup —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.89.161 ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 January 2008
Should this page include a better discussion of the recent capture of 2 crewmen by the Whaling fleet? It is linked from the front page as if it were a news story, but there is only a sentence or 2 about the story. 192.84.89.129 ( talk) 00:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
What does MY stand for? -- Itinerant1 ( talk) 01:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
On January 15, 2008 two members of the crew of the vessel illegally boarded the Japanese whaling vessel Yashin Maru No. 2 without permission to present a letter to its captain.
Illegally boarded? What law to you believe they are breaking? I think that passage should read - On January 15, 2008 two members of the crew of the vessel boarded the Japanese whaling vessel Yashin Maru No. 2 without permission to present a letter of protest to its captain. -- Gavin77
As I've said before, there are definitely grounds in maritime law for calling this illegal, and there are sources which describe it as such, so I'm in no way opposed to the article saying that it is illegal, until someone says it's not. But I'm not sure what sort of bias you think the BBC has. A more neutral way of phrasing it would be to say that the activists boarded the ship, an act is claimed to be illegal (by the Japanese at least). The actual wording of the law as set out above, is murky, and it can (and probably will be) disputed by legal experts from the various nations involved. Were they there to cause criminal damage? To carry out violence or depredation? The altered wording would forestall us making a definite judgement events until one had been made in law. But I'm happy for the wording to stand as the evidence and sources lean more to illegal than legal at the moment. Benea ( talk) 17:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
It should read boarded. It is not for us to act as juror. The action happened in Australian waters, and precedents have been set where persons can board a vessel to present the ships captain with documentation or letters. It should be changed now. mightymouseman ( talk)
Butyric acid has similar properties to acetic acid (aka vinegar); "irritating to eyes" and "harmful to aquatic organisms" can be said about literally every chemical other than water. Bobxii ( talk) 03:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Hostages is clearly a POV term in this case and should not be used except in verbatim quotation from sources which use the term Nil Einne ( talk) 10:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
From the intro: MV Steve Irwin is a 59-meter (195-foot) conservation enforcement ship owned by Sea Shepherd. The vessel was built in 1975 and was a Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency patrol boat for 28 years.
The vessel was previously named the MV Robert Hunter after Canadian Robert Hunter
This should be rewritten to say that when owned by Sea Shepherd, it was previously called MV Robert Hunter. I'm sure it wasn't called that when it was a Scottish Fisheries vessel. The phrasing reads very ambiguously/unclearly. 86.133.214.216 ( talk) 11:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Suggest deleting this page which was created as a joke: MV Steve Irwin enjoying Brian Peppers' deals on meals whilst reading the Encyclopedia Dramatica on w.heels) Is there an admin in the audience?. JJL ( talk) 19:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, tagged for speedy already! JJL ( talk) 19:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
What's the point of dousing a whaling ship in a foul-smelling chemical? What do they think WHALES smell like inside? Flowers and strawberries? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 ( talk) 19:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Can we get a source on how long said smell lasts? Or if this really would be viable in preventing the sale of whale meat? I doubt that it would make much of an impact, probably a PR move by these guys.
It is actually very toxic and can blind a person. The smell is also quickly diluted in water. They only point is to harm people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.210.17 ( talk) 03:05, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
the reasons they use it is primarally, it smells terrible and it's non-toxic.(as a matter of fact its used as a food additive) so they cant hurt anyone unless they hit someone right in the face with it. it has a very low acidity(less than oragne juice or beer) so eye contact is the only way for it to harm someone. 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 18:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
check this story out [4]. should this be integrated into the article?- Aknorals ( talk) 02:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
unfotunatlly no one will test the bullet, badge, vest or anyother evidence and no one outsidethe 2 groups will deffinatlly state it one way or another,(with out being called biased) so to stay "neutral" its left "he claims to have been shot" 69.115.204.217 ( talk) 18:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The word "former" was added before "conservation enforcement ship" in the opening sentence in February with no explanation as to why. AFAIK the ship is still in service. Am I missing something? Ungovernable Force Poll: Which religious text should I read? 04:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
From the reports I've read, the Steve Irwin's crew is predominently, if not completely, caucasian, while the Japanese whaling ship's crews are all Japanese. Has there been anything in the press that has covered a possible racial or cultural factor involved in this confrontation between the environmentalists and the whalers? Cla68 ( talk) 02:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
SpudHawg was concerned that another editor dismissed it completely. All done. This is not a forum so we should just stop discussing it unless it improves the article. Cptnono ( talk) 06:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it would be an idea to mention the recon helicopter that is used by Sea Sheperd and usually lives on the MV Steve Irwin. I think it's a Sikorsky S-300. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.68.131 ( talk) 18:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
The Steve Irwin is actually the M/Y Steve Irwin, as seen by the following sources: http://www.seashepherd.org/who-we-are/the-fleet.html , http://rewilding.org/rewildit/47/sea-shepherd-ship-steve-irwin-engages-japanese-factory-ship-nisshin/ , Does the article need to be renamed, and if so, can someone do it? -Samnuva (Not logged in) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.5.91 ( talk) 23:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Steve Irwin (ship) would mean that the vessel is a full rigged ship, which she certainly is not. If consensus is that the article sits better at MV Steve Irwin then it can be moved there by an admin after deleting the redirect. This issue needs to be settled though, as we don't want to keep moving the article between two titles. Mjroots ( talk) 05:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
"The boat has been registered in the Netherlands as of October 8, 2007.[6]" Footnote 6 is a reference to a New Yorker article that does not support the assertion. 24.118.197.153 ( talk) 04:30, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The section on career from the second paragraph under 2009 and through the end of the section of 2010 does not present a neutral point of view. Nearly all of the sources come from one Sea Shepherd website and in several places the text is not supported by the by the citations. These sections should be re-written to provide a more neutral point of view that is support with citations. New Hampshirite ( talk) 02:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
The ship is listed as MV on Steve Irwin's site and MY on the boat's site itself...which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.183.100 ( talk) 08:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have a useable photo showing its new paint job? Spiffy. http://www.seashepherd.org/commentary-and-editorials/2011/04/07/the-changing-of-our-colors-10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.159.5 ( talk) 02:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
will some one please put photos of the new paint job up and doo it for the barker and bardot to — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.95.176.138 ( talk) 14:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, the Steve Irwin is done mate. -- Serendipityologist ( talk) 16:43, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the significance of the pseudo- pennant number 77 painted on the bow of this vessel is? -- saberwyn 00:11, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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