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I reverted the name for readability as much as that common practice seems to put a space between MTB and the number. GraemeLeggett 20:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
DONT BELIVE ANT THING
You can find some details of wartime service here.
On at least two occasions editors have confused this article by getting mixed up between MTB 102 and HSL 102. In December 2011 an editor included a photo of HSL 102; I have reverted thhat addition and a subsequent edit arising from that confusion. The 2 boats are listed separately in Coastal_Forces_of_the_Royal_Navy, and in other sources. It would be wise to keep an eye open for similar confusion in future. - David Biddulph ( talk) 01:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the claim that MTB 102 was the only Second World War Navy vessel at the 2012 Queen's Diamond Jubilee Pageant. ML 1397 Medusa was there, as were numerous Dunkirk Little Ships (although not necessarily Navy, they were in wartime service). Ranger Steve Talk 15:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The article mentions that the boat was used, in 1944, as the craft aboard which both Churchill & Eisenhower rode to inspect the D-day invasion fleet. Would this really be so?
MTB 102 was a small vessel with poor seakeeping and very little space. Giving a poor ride at any speed above slow in any water except flat calm, she would have been a very cramped little boat for the two most important men in the British Isles at the time aside from the King. There seems to be a dearth of images of this event, in any case.
As far as the King himself goes, His Majesty inspected the Invasion Fleet from the decks of HMS Scylla (a light cruiser) and transferred from her decks to shore via the Fairmile Type 'B' Rescue Motor Launch RML 529. This boat had plenty of extra freeboard, plus an enclosed deckhouse aft (for use originally as a sickbay) which would have permitted HRH to be inside a cabin should he have needed to. Moreover, her size and fullness of hull, together with her extensive self-defence armament of 2-pdr, Oerlikon and MGs would have afforded both a better ride and better protection for her VIP passenger.
An image of the RML, flying the Royal Standard, is available on IWM: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205155692
As i say, no similar photo of Churchill & Eisenhower on board a very small, weakly-gunned, old MTB seems to be discoverable by myself. Yet many images exist of both men together, in posed publicity shots taken during wartime, so this absence of evidence seems an oddity.
The MTB had already been transferred away from flotilla duties (and a training flotilla at that) to the RASC. Would such an obscure old and small boat really have been brought back into regular service to be Ike's taxi? Or would they have used something newer, in better condition, better self-defending, roomier and more suitable for the role of motor yacht?
This seems very dubious. 2A00:23C7:3119:AD01:3CC3:E6B0:BEA9:DC74 ( talk) 20:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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I reverted the name for readability as much as that common practice seems to put a space between MTB and the number. GraemeLeggett 20:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
DONT BELIVE ANT THING
You can find some details of wartime service here.
On at least two occasions editors have confused this article by getting mixed up between MTB 102 and HSL 102. In December 2011 an editor included a photo of HSL 102; I have reverted thhat addition and a subsequent edit arising from that confusion. The 2 boats are listed separately in Coastal_Forces_of_the_Royal_Navy, and in other sources. It would be wise to keep an eye open for similar confusion in future. - David Biddulph ( talk) 01:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the claim that MTB 102 was the only Second World War Navy vessel at the 2012 Queen's Diamond Jubilee Pageant. ML 1397 Medusa was there, as were numerous Dunkirk Little Ships (although not necessarily Navy, they were in wartime service). Ranger Steve Talk 15:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The article mentions that the boat was used, in 1944, as the craft aboard which both Churchill & Eisenhower rode to inspect the D-day invasion fleet. Would this really be so?
MTB 102 was a small vessel with poor seakeeping and very little space. Giving a poor ride at any speed above slow in any water except flat calm, she would have been a very cramped little boat for the two most important men in the British Isles at the time aside from the King. There seems to be a dearth of images of this event, in any case.
As far as the King himself goes, His Majesty inspected the Invasion Fleet from the decks of HMS Scylla (a light cruiser) and transferred from her decks to shore via the Fairmile Type 'B' Rescue Motor Launch RML 529. This boat had plenty of extra freeboard, plus an enclosed deckhouse aft (for use originally as a sickbay) which would have permitted HRH to be inside a cabin should he have needed to. Moreover, her size and fullness of hull, together with her extensive self-defence armament of 2-pdr, Oerlikon and MGs would have afforded both a better ride and better protection for her VIP passenger.
An image of the RML, flying the Royal Standard, is available on IWM: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205155692
As i say, no similar photo of Churchill & Eisenhower on board a very small, weakly-gunned, old MTB seems to be discoverable by myself. Yet many images exist of both men together, in posed publicity shots taken during wartime, so this absence of evidence seems an oddity.
The MTB had already been transferred away from flotilla duties (and a training flotilla at that) to the RASC. Would such an obscure old and small boat really have been brought back into regular service to be Ike's taxi? Or would they have used something newer, in better condition, better self-defending, roomier and more suitable for the role of motor yacht?
This seems very dubious. 2A00:23C7:3119:AD01:3CC3:E6B0:BEA9:DC74 ( talk) 20:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)