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Can someone confirm if the dollar figures in the article are all USD, and if so, update the article accordingly ? OZ_Rhett 23:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking of expanding the "Products" section to include a lot more MOS Technology chips, but it might start getting a bit long because of all the PAL and NTSC variants of the video chips. Is it worth doing? It would probably be better to list all the VIC chips in the VIC-II article. Any feedback is welcome. Bill Bertram 07:46, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I want to add as many chips I can get information on, including the chips for the Amiga. I know the chips weren't designed by MOS, but they probably contributed to some of the design to get the Amiga chipset to market. Would it be correct to add Amiga chips to the list? Bill Bertram 21:41, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Looking through Category:Computer stubs, I saw 4510 (computer chipset), and was wondering if this might be a MOS chip. If so, that page should probably be renamed accordingly. It was used in the Commodore 64. I suppose it could have been made by just about anybody... — User:Mulad (talk) 18:47, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
What does the name mean—is it supposed to be an acronym for Metal Oxide Semiconductor, or what? TIA, Maikel 15:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding MOS Technology's ability to fix broken masks, the article refers to a phone call with Mr. Mensch as the source. Could this be considered original research if it was done specifically for the Wikipedia entry?
Personally, I'm interested in this aspect of the MOS team. If the phone conversation with Mr. Mensch was documented, I'd like to see a link to a transcript. Dinjiin ( talk) 23:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
SPOT IT was a system to detect and repair defects in photomasks for hybrid thin-film circuits. Developed at Bell Telephone Laboratories in Allentown, PA. Electronics magazine, October 30, 1975. pages 29-30
"David Munro, one of the system's inventors, says the most common defect in masks is caused by extraneous small opaque material although the operator is sometime confronted with ragged edge and long narrow flaws. All of these can be removed by focusing a neodymium yttrium-aluminum-garnet laser on the unwanted areas to vaporize them away. To aim the Laser the operator first manually lines up the defect with the crosshair of the microscope, then presses a button that fires the Laser. Munro says SPOT IT is being used successfully with photomasks made of both chrome and iron oxide."
MOS Technology was located in Norristown, PA; 50 miles from Bell Labs. -- SWTPC6800 ( talk) 01:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to explain my potentially non-obvious reasons for an edit.
The article said, in effect, that Chuck Peddle's team couldn't become a fabless semiconductor company because there weren't any fabless semiconductor companies at the time. This is like saying the wheel couldn't be invented because there weren't any wheels yet.
Instead the issue was that in those days, all the fabs were owned by companies that designed chips. Companies like MOSIS could broker access to fab services for short prototype and production runs for non-commercial and (generally) non-competing commercial customers, but they couldn't guarantee production volumes or support designs of leading-edge complexity.
In short, it was the lack of pure-play semiconductor foundries that made fabless semiconductor companies impossible. It took another decade before there were enough independent design teams to keep an independent foundry reasonably busy, at which point fabs like TSMC and design firms like the Western Design Center (non-coincidentally also descending from MOS Technology) started to spring up. 98.247.224.9 ( talk) 09:53, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Kuru are you sure the book "Early Home Computers" by PediaPress is not a reliable source? It doesn't seem like a circular reference to me (the info isn't a regurgitation of information from this article) and it seems authoritative in the subject matter. I wouldn't undo your edit but I would ask you to relook at it again as I believe it to be a reliable reference. Specifically page 695, paragraph 3, the last two sentences:
Thank you for reexamining this reference. I will abide by whatever you think is best for this cite. Kc7txm ( talk) 06:22, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
It lacks a lot of things and mislead other. The "funny" thing is that some (most?) are written in another article ( MOS Technology 6502 .... )
Another two sources of info are General Instruments ( especially GI Microelectronics chapter ) and, of course, team6502 website Yes i know .. be bold. :)
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Can someone confirm if the dollar figures in the article are all USD, and if so, update the article accordingly ? OZ_Rhett 23:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking of expanding the "Products" section to include a lot more MOS Technology chips, but it might start getting a bit long because of all the PAL and NTSC variants of the video chips. Is it worth doing? It would probably be better to list all the VIC chips in the VIC-II article. Any feedback is welcome. Bill Bertram 07:46, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I want to add as many chips I can get information on, including the chips for the Amiga. I know the chips weren't designed by MOS, but they probably contributed to some of the design to get the Amiga chipset to market. Would it be correct to add Amiga chips to the list? Bill Bertram 21:41, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Looking through Category:Computer stubs, I saw 4510 (computer chipset), and was wondering if this might be a MOS chip. If so, that page should probably be renamed accordingly. It was used in the Commodore 64. I suppose it could have been made by just about anybody... — User:Mulad (talk) 18:47, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
What does the name mean—is it supposed to be an acronym for Metal Oxide Semiconductor, or what? TIA, Maikel 15:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding MOS Technology's ability to fix broken masks, the article refers to a phone call with Mr. Mensch as the source. Could this be considered original research if it was done specifically for the Wikipedia entry?
Personally, I'm interested in this aspect of the MOS team. If the phone conversation with Mr. Mensch was documented, I'd like to see a link to a transcript. Dinjiin ( talk) 23:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
SPOT IT was a system to detect and repair defects in photomasks for hybrid thin-film circuits. Developed at Bell Telephone Laboratories in Allentown, PA. Electronics magazine, October 30, 1975. pages 29-30
"David Munro, one of the system's inventors, says the most common defect in masks is caused by extraneous small opaque material although the operator is sometime confronted with ragged edge and long narrow flaws. All of these can be removed by focusing a neodymium yttrium-aluminum-garnet laser on the unwanted areas to vaporize them away. To aim the Laser the operator first manually lines up the defect with the crosshair of the microscope, then presses a button that fires the Laser. Munro says SPOT IT is being used successfully with photomasks made of both chrome and iron oxide."
MOS Technology was located in Norristown, PA; 50 miles from Bell Labs. -- SWTPC6800 ( talk) 01:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to explain my potentially non-obvious reasons for an edit.
The article said, in effect, that Chuck Peddle's team couldn't become a fabless semiconductor company because there weren't any fabless semiconductor companies at the time. This is like saying the wheel couldn't be invented because there weren't any wheels yet.
Instead the issue was that in those days, all the fabs were owned by companies that designed chips. Companies like MOSIS could broker access to fab services for short prototype and production runs for non-commercial and (generally) non-competing commercial customers, but they couldn't guarantee production volumes or support designs of leading-edge complexity.
In short, it was the lack of pure-play semiconductor foundries that made fabless semiconductor companies impossible. It took another decade before there were enough independent design teams to keep an independent foundry reasonably busy, at which point fabs like TSMC and design firms like the Western Design Center (non-coincidentally also descending from MOS Technology) started to spring up. 98.247.224.9 ( talk) 09:53, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Kuru are you sure the book "Early Home Computers" by PediaPress is not a reliable source? It doesn't seem like a circular reference to me (the info isn't a regurgitation of information from this article) and it seems authoritative in the subject matter. I wouldn't undo your edit but I would ask you to relook at it again as I believe it to be a reliable reference. Specifically page 695, paragraph 3, the last two sentences:
Thank you for reexamining this reference. I will abide by whatever you think is best for this cite. Kc7txm ( talk) 06:22, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
It lacks a lot of things and mislead other. The "funny" thing is that some (most?) are written in another article ( MOS Technology 6502 .... )
Another two sources of info are General Instruments ( especially GI Microelectronics chapter ) and, of course, team6502 website Yes i know .. be bold. :)