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I think it should be mentioned in this article if it doesn't deserve one for itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.227.117.239 ( talk) 11:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
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Related policy: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (acronyms). Blackcap | talk 07:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Note that A.L.I.C.E. (which had the same thing) has been moved to ALICE. Blackcap (talk) 20:09, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
What is "PAL"? I searched through Wikipedia, but couldn't find out what it relates to. -- Syzygy 12:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Pocket Attachment Ladder System
Mole, or mo-lay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Bessa ( talk • contribs) 16:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I heard it was pronoucned as Maul-ey like the girls name.
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Govt. Contractor or not? The article came out back in March, I figure someone's gotta know. As funny as it was when I read "probably not" then had to follow the tab down to see "350 in custody after New Bedford immigration raid"... it just doesn't look very encyclopedic to "guess" is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.45.185.196 ( talk) 02:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I have been researching, and Ebay surplus suppl'rs are advertising "Gen IV," which implies Gens I-III.
Independent manufacturers are extending the designs as well, making lighter, more sensible frames.
My own take from backpacking is that the belt system is the weakness -- the load should ride on the hips, except when the belt is released, which means the load is about to get dumped ("Always protect your head," McCullen).-- John Bessa ( talk) 19:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I had an interchange with Justin from Downeast, the maker of the most advanced plastic frame. He gave me a lot of useful information, though I didn't get permission to use the company's photos of its products.
Here is a link to the relevant parts of the conversation. I personally am not a MOLLE fan after researching it, especially through Ebay (surplus heaven), but I did find I like the ALICE system. I noticed that the
Viet Cong copied the ALICE pack during the war, but not it's worthless frame.
While going back and forth with Justin, I gave the whole topic a single-systems analysis (as you can see in the emails), and realized that pack systems are obsolete! The weight bearing unit has to be the body armor, and hence I coined " load-bearing body armor." I will make a stub for that page, but because it does not yet exist (to my knowledge), and talk about it is speculative, then it falls into the gray area of "original research." Not a problem -- I will make a wikiversity page were OR is encouraged.-- John Bessa ( talk) 14:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Can we get a newer/better picture for the MOLLE System.
The one that we have now barely even shows what MOLLE is.
It's more suited for the ACU article rather tham a MOLLE one.
EDIT: Seems I thought MOLLE was the same exact thing as PAL, we still need a better pic
Halofanatic333 ( talk) 14:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The last paragraph in this section referencing Blue Force gear reads like an advertisement. There are plenty of alternatives and improvements being made to molle gear by many competing companies, but I don't believe they all have a place in this article unless they become part of the molle standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.83.3.122 ( talk) 16:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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I think it should be mentioned in this article if it doesn't deserve one for itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.227.117.239 ( talk) 11:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
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Related policy: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (acronyms). Blackcap | talk 07:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Note that A.L.I.C.E. (which had the same thing) has been moved to ALICE. Blackcap (talk) 20:09, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
What is "PAL"? I searched through Wikipedia, but couldn't find out what it relates to. -- Syzygy 12:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Pocket Attachment Ladder System
Mole, or mo-lay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Bessa ( talk • contribs) 16:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I heard it was pronoucned as Maul-ey like the girls name.
Halofanatic333 (
talk)
14:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Govt. Contractor or not? The article came out back in March, I figure someone's gotta know. As funny as it was when I read "probably not" then had to follow the tab down to see "350 in custody after New Bedford immigration raid"... it just doesn't look very encyclopedic to "guess" is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.45.185.196 ( talk) 02:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I have been researching, and Ebay surplus suppl'rs are advertising "Gen IV," which implies Gens I-III.
Independent manufacturers are extending the designs as well, making lighter, more sensible frames.
My own take from backpacking is that the belt system is the weakness -- the load should ride on the hips, except when the belt is released, which means the load is about to get dumped ("Always protect your head," McCullen).-- John Bessa ( talk) 19:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I had an interchange with Justin from Downeast, the maker of the most advanced plastic frame. He gave me a lot of useful information, though I didn't get permission to use the company's photos of its products.
Here is a link to the relevant parts of the conversation. I personally am not a MOLLE fan after researching it, especially through Ebay (surplus heaven), but I did find I like the ALICE system. I noticed that the
Viet Cong copied the ALICE pack during the war, but not it's worthless frame.
While going back and forth with Justin, I gave the whole topic a single-systems analysis (as you can see in the emails), and realized that pack systems are obsolete! The weight bearing unit has to be the body armor, and hence I coined " load-bearing body armor." I will make a stub for that page, but because it does not yet exist (to my knowledge), and talk about it is speculative, then it falls into the gray area of "original research." Not a problem -- I will make a wikiversity page were OR is encouraged.-- John Bessa ( talk) 14:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Can we get a newer/better picture for the MOLLE System.
The one that we have now barely even shows what MOLLE is.
It's more suited for the ACU article rather tham a MOLLE one.
EDIT: Seems I thought MOLLE was the same exact thing as PAL, we still need a better pic
Halofanatic333 ( talk) 14:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The last paragraph in this section referencing Blue Force gear reads like an advertisement. There are plenty of alternatives and improvements being made to molle gear by many competing companies, but I don't believe they all have a place in this article unless they become part of the molle standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.83.3.122 ( talk) 16:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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