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MK Nobilette's full name is Michaela Ann Spatt Nobilette.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/70878/faces-02-21-14
http://fosota.org/fosotaAlumniList.cfm?g=2012 Lists as Michaela Spatt-Nobilette, 2012 vocal graduate of SF Unified District School of the Arts (SOTA)
MK Nobilette is not the first openly gay contestant. There were other contestants who were openly gay, the only difference is that it was never disclosed on the show. Vanessa Olivarez for example came out to other contestants while she was on the show [1], Adam Lambert has never hidden the fact that he is gay (he came out when he was 18 [2], 8 years before he appeared on the show), and Jim Verraros was also known to be gay while on the show (he came out to his parents after the show, but he wrote about being gay in his online journal before the show [3]). MK Nobilette is the first openly gay contestant to be acknowledged on the show, if a news source doesn't understand the distinction, then don't use it. Hzh ( talk) 00:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
We would need sourcing to show that AI was controlling this information, and just now is willing to discuss it. Otherwise all we have is what is reported in sources as to when they actually publicly came out. I'm working on expanding this section now. But sources are discussing her being the first openly gay contestant and they have a point. We can provide details that *gosh* no one ever asked me, but sure I'm gay. Let's see what the sourcing can confirm. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 02:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I think we need to include David Hernandez, many reports he is gay, but not sure if any good source is out there. However, publicly he is documented as being a gay stripper, but we would explain he was a nude stripper in a "mostly gay male" club. Also Devin Velez apparently has posted images of himself with his boyfriend. Still need a good source though. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 00:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I think we should include David Hernandez, to clarify he was outed for his job which cannot be inferred to his sexuality. Again this is an issue of the media reporting him as a gay strip club dance, there is no harm in clarifying the nuance. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 00:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I've tweaked the phrasing a little, so that the article now calls her "the first openly gay contestant in the history of the series to acknowledge her sexuality on air". -- Jpcase ( talk) 20:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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MK Nobilette's full name is Michaela Ann Spatt Nobilette.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/70878/faces-02-21-14
http://fosota.org/fosotaAlumniList.cfm?g=2012 Lists as Michaela Spatt-Nobilette, 2012 vocal graduate of SF Unified District School of the Arts (SOTA)
MK Nobilette is not the first openly gay contestant. There were other contestants who were openly gay, the only difference is that it was never disclosed on the show. Vanessa Olivarez for example came out to other contestants while she was on the show [1], Adam Lambert has never hidden the fact that he is gay (he came out when he was 18 [2], 8 years before he appeared on the show), and Jim Verraros was also known to be gay while on the show (he came out to his parents after the show, but he wrote about being gay in his online journal before the show [3]). MK Nobilette is the first openly gay contestant to be acknowledged on the show, if a news source doesn't understand the distinction, then don't use it. Hzh ( talk) 00:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
We would need sourcing to show that AI was controlling this information, and just now is willing to discuss it. Otherwise all we have is what is reported in sources as to when they actually publicly came out. I'm working on expanding this section now. But sources are discussing her being the first openly gay contestant and they have a point. We can provide details that *gosh* no one ever asked me, but sure I'm gay. Let's see what the sourcing can confirm. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 02:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I think we need to include David Hernandez, many reports he is gay, but not sure if any good source is out there. However, publicly he is documented as being a gay stripper, but we would explain he was a nude stripper in a "mostly gay male" club. Also Devin Velez apparently has posted images of himself with his boyfriend. Still need a good source though. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 00:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I think we should include David Hernandez, to clarify he was outed for his job which cannot be inferred to his sexuality. Again this is an issue of the media reporting him as a gay strip club dance, there is no harm in clarifying the nuance. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 00:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I've tweaked the phrasing a little, so that the article now calls her "the first openly gay contestant in the history of the series to acknowledge her sexuality on air". -- Jpcase ( talk) 20:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)