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why is there a pic of the M4/M7 interchange on this page? lawl. 61.88.20.56 ( talk) 06:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Please don't mention non-major incidents or alerts in this article. The paragraph detailing the truck that smashed into the front of the M5 East Tunnel was not necessary and was removed. These exact same incidents occur frequently in Melbourne's notorious Burnley and Domain Tunnels (overheight alerts) and there are no accounts recorded on any Victorian / Melbourne Wikipedia page regarding such incidents. Same goes for other states. Therefore, incidents that haven't involved fatalities (such as the Burnley Tunnel fireball in 2007 which involved numerous vehicles and some fatalities) or haven't involved major problems (such as a fire, explosion or massive pileup in the tunnel) shouldn't be mentioned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.199.110 ( talk) 07:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
The photo shown of Botany is not the M5 East, it is of Southern Cross Drive:
It doesn't become the M5 East until *after* it passes underneath the airport tunnel, which is way off the right side of the photo. 220.233.130.210 ( talk) 23:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is titled M5 South Western Motorway and the intro makes a point that this is a different entity to the M5 East, however the article is actually about the entire M5. I don't believe splitting the article makes sense, but for correctness perhaps it should be renamed to M5 (Sydney) or similar? 124.168.177.19 ( talk) 09:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Please think up of some possible names that it could be renamed to. Marcnut1996 ( talk) 10:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
It would also be per the (final draft) naming conventions Ive been working on at WP:AURD: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_Roads#Draft. Specifically point 2 of the article title section... This could be a good test for it... I would consider these roads separately notable personally :) -- Nbound ( talk) 10:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy with the M5 Motorway, Sydney suggestion. With the likely deletion (not renaming) of the Metroad 5 article, a split would mean there isn't a single article for what almost any (normal) person would consider a single road. All signs for both sections read M5 Motorway so this would be the best article title. 124.168.177.19 ( talk) 12:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The article already splits the road into two separate roadways. They arent a single road any more than any two roads that flow into each other with the same shield are (like the M1 sections in Nth Sydney). The disambiguation page could contain an overview of the situation. The both have separate histories and separate operators, and are referred to as two separate roadways by reputable sources like:
-- Nbound ( talk) 13:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes, understanding is best achieved by presenting the material on a dedicated standalone page, but it is not required that we do so. There are other times when it is better to cover notable topics, that clearly should be included in Wikipedia, as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context. A decision to cover a notable topic only as part of a broader page does not in any way disparage the importance of the topic.
The M5 Motorway is a name used to refer to a length of roadway that links General Holmes Drive in Sydney's inner south, to the Hume Motorway in the outer southwest. It consists of two component motorways:
and its later eastwards extension;
I'm the Environment & Community Manager at the M5 East Motorway. I have been in contact with Google over an issue with Google searches for our information where the M5 Southwest Motorway map appears alongside search results for the M5 East. The issue, according to Google engineers, is that the Wikipedia article has M5 East Freeway as a subset/subheading in the M5 Southwest Motorway article and uses this information/data for search results and maps. The M5 East (owned by RMS) is not part of the M5 Southwest Motorway (leased by Interlink) - the M5 East begins at King Georges Rd and ends at General Holmes Dr. By having M5 East as a subset of this article, it also creates havoc as motorway users think that we can deal with their tolling accounts, accidents, breakdowns, complaints, etc. It's become an administrative nightmare! If the page could please be split into 2 separate articles with references to the other motorway in each, it will solve a big problem for our call centre. Also, upon completion of WestConnex construction, all 3 assets (i.e. M5 East, New M5 and M5 Southwest) will be managed separately. Furthermore, the New M5 and M5 East will be sold off. They will not be managed as a single mega-asset. Once the New M5 is completed, a new article could then be published describing that asset. Refer to Page 5 of the following WestConnex document: [ [3]] and the M5 East Motorway website showing the incorrect map at the bottom [ [4]] Trubie78 ( talk) 05:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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why is there a pic of the M4/M7 interchange on this page? lawl. 61.88.20.56 ( talk) 06:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Please don't mention non-major incidents or alerts in this article. The paragraph detailing the truck that smashed into the front of the M5 East Tunnel was not necessary and was removed. These exact same incidents occur frequently in Melbourne's notorious Burnley and Domain Tunnels (overheight alerts) and there are no accounts recorded on any Victorian / Melbourne Wikipedia page regarding such incidents. Same goes for other states. Therefore, incidents that haven't involved fatalities (such as the Burnley Tunnel fireball in 2007 which involved numerous vehicles and some fatalities) or haven't involved major problems (such as a fire, explosion or massive pileup in the tunnel) shouldn't be mentioned! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.199.110 ( talk) 07:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
The photo shown of Botany is not the M5 East, it is of Southern Cross Drive:
It doesn't become the M5 East until *after* it passes underneath the airport tunnel, which is way off the right side of the photo. 220.233.130.210 ( talk) 23:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is titled M5 South Western Motorway and the intro makes a point that this is a different entity to the M5 East, however the article is actually about the entire M5. I don't believe splitting the article makes sense, but for correctness perhaps it should be renamed to M5 (Sydney) or similar? 124.168.177.19 ( talk) 09:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Please think up of some possible names that it could be renamed to. Marcnut1996 ( talk) 10:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
It would also be per the (final draft) naming conventions Ive been working on at WP:AURD: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_Roads#Draft. Specifically point 2 of the article title section... This could be a good test for it... I would consider these roads separately notable personally :) -- Nbound ( talk) 10:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy with the M5 Motorway, Sydney suggestion. With the likely deletion (not renaming) of the Metroad 5 article, a split would mean there isn't a single article for what almost any (normal) person would consider a single road. All signs for both sections read M5 Motorway so this would be the best article title. 124.168.177.19 ( talk) 12:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The article already splits the road into two separate roadways. They arent a single road any more than any two roads that flow into each other with the same shield are (like the M1 sections in Nth Sydney). The disambiguation page could contain an overview of the situation. The both have separate histories and separate operators, and are referred to as two separate roadways by reputable sources like:
-- Nbound ( talk) 13:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes, understanding is best achieved by presenting the material on a dedicated standalone page, but it is not required that we do so. There are other times when it is better to cover notable topics, that clearly should be included in Wikipedia, as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context. A decision to cover a notable topic only as part of a broader page does not in any way disparage the importance of the topic.
The M5 Motorway is a name used to refer to a length of roadway that links General Holmes Drive in Sydney's inner south, to the Hume Motorway in the outer southwest. It consists of two component motorways:
and its later eastwards extension;
I'm the Environment & Community Manager at the M5 East Motorway. I have been in contact with Google over an issue with Google searches for our information where the M5 Southwest Motorway map appears alongside search results for the M5 East. The issue, according to Google engineers, is that the Wikipedia article has M5 East Freeway as a subset/subheading in the M5 Southwest Motorway article and uses this information/data for search results and maps. The M5 East (owned by RMS) is not part of the M5 Southwest Motorway (leased by Interlink) - the M5 East begins at King Georges Rd and ends at General Holmes Dr. By having M5 East as a subset of this article, it also creates havoc as motorway users think that we can deal with their tolling accounts, accidents, breakdowns, complaints, etc. It's become an administrative nightmare! If the page could please be split into 2 separate articles with references to the other motorway in each, it will solve a big problem for our call centre. Also, upon completion of WestConnex construction, all 3 assets (i.e. M5 East, New M5 and M5 Southwest) will be managed separately. Furthermore, the New M5 and M5 East will be sold off. They will not be managed as a single mega-asset. Once the New M5 is completed, a new article could then be published describing that asset. Refer to Page 5 of the following WestConnex document: [ [3]] and the M5 East Motorway website showing the incorrect map at the bottom [ [4]] Trubie78 ( talk) 05:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)