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His birth date is obviously not 1930. Will someone please correct this?
Lutz Long is not in the Encyclopedia Britannica (at least, not in my old copy), but I finally found the year of his birth in the following German web page regarding the 1936 Olympics: http://www.hdg.de/lemo/html/nazi/olymp/ (do a search for "Lutz Long"). -- Death phoenix 17:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The right name is Luz Long as a nickname from the German name of Ludwig. He was never called Lutz, so move the article to Luz Long -- Hunding 23:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Please don't change the quotation from "It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler... You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn't be a plating on the twenty-four kilates friendship that I felt for Lutz Long at that moment." to "It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler... You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn't be a plating on the twenty-four carats friendship that I felt for Lutz Long at that moment."
Jesse Owens actually used the word "kilates". The wikilink to carat (purity) should make clear the meaning of the word "kilates". We shouldn't change historical quotations just because the reader might not know what it means unless we use a parenthetical statement, which is unnecessary given the existence of the wikilink to carat (purity). -- Deathphoenix ʕ 20:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand, how could he be 19 in 1934 if he was born in 1913? It don' add up ... :)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.114.189.23 ( talk) 18:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have corrected the date of his death, he was killed in combat on 14 July; the date can be seen on the photograph of the war cemetery [1]. The detailed circumstances of Luz Long's death can be found in the book "Uccidi Gli Italiani" on pp. 174 - 180, citing a testimony. Js1965 ( talk) 19:01, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Could this man have been killed in the Biscari Massacre that took place in Biscari on 14 July 1943? Wiki: "Following the capture of the Biscari airfield on 14 July 1943, troops of the 180th Infantry killed 71 Italian and two German POWs in two separate incidents. In the first incident, 36 Italians died, while the second killing involved 35 Italians and two Germans.[3][4]"
^ Weingartner (November 1989), pp. 24-39. ^ Robbins (2000), pp274-6. Robbins, Christopher (2000). Test of Courage: The Michel Thomas Story. New York: Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-0-7432-0263-3. Weingartner, James (November 1989). "Massacre at Biscari: Patton and An American War Crime". The Historian LII (1): 24–39. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.242.193 ( talk) 15:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
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Intro says Long gave Owens advice; later in the article, it says this was false. Please clarify!
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His birth date is obviously not 1930. Will someone please correct this?
Lutz Long is not in the Encyclopedia Britannica (at least, not in my old copy), but I finally found the year of his birth in the following German web page regarding the 1936 Olympics: http://www.hdg.de/lemo/html/nazi/olymp/ (do a search for "Lutz Long"). -- Death phoenix 17:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The right name is Luz Long as a nickname from the German name of Ludwig. He was never called Lutz, so move the article to Luz Long -- Hunding 23:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Please don't change the quotation from "It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler... You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn't be a plating on the twenty-four kilates friendship that I felt for Lutz Long at that moment." to "It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler... You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn't be a plating on the twenty-four carats friendship that I felt for Lutz Long at that moment."
Jesse Owens actually used the word "kilates". The wikilink to carat (purity) should make clear the meaning of the word "kilates". We shouldn't change historical quotations just because the reader might not know what it means unless we use a parenthetical statement, which is unnecessary given the existence of the wikilink to carat (purity). -- Deathphoenix ʕ 20:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand, how could he be 19 in 1934 if he was born in 1913? It don' add up ... :)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.114.189.23 ( talk) 18:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have corrected the date of his death, he was killed in combat on 14 July; the date can be seen on the photograph of the war cemetery [1]. The detailed circumstances of Luz Long's death can be found in the book "Uccidi Gli Italiani" on pp. 174 - 180, citing a testimony. Js1965 ( talk) 19:01, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Could this man have been killed in the Biscari Massacre that took place in Biscari on 14 July 1943? Wiki: "Following the capture of the Biscari airfield on 14 July 1943, troops of the 180th Infantry killed 71 Italian and two German POWs in two separate incidents. In the first incident, 36 Italians died, while the second killing involved 35 Italians and two Germans.[3][4]"
^ Weingartner (November 1989), pp. 24-39. ^ Robbins (2000), pp274-6. Robbins, Christopher (2000). Test of Courage: The Michel Thomas Story. New York: Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-0-7432-0263-3. Weingartner, James (November 1989). "Massacre at Biscari: Patton and An American War Crime". The Historian LII (1): 24–39. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.242.193 ( talk) 15:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
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Intro says Long gave Owens advice; later in the article, it says this was false. Please clarify!