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Did you know... that the freighter Chester A. Congdon became the largest financial loss to date on the
Great Lakes when she wrecked in 1918?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Personally I thought the original hook could have been interesting, but maybe it's because I have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight, and I do understand where the concerns about lack of interest to a broad audience are coming from. With that said, perhaps a hook about it being the main habitat module of the Lunar Gateway or a hook about it being planned to launch at the same time as a crewed Orion spacecraft would work?
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23:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The article says that it could "switch" launch providers, which isn't necessarily a "steal". However, for AFD hooks we do tend to be more loose with the allowed wordings, hence why I suggested that those wordings could work for AFD (they would be too imprecise to work on any other date).
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10:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)reply
In addition, while ALT4 could work in case the "steal" hooks don't work out (and unlike those hooks, could probably run on a regular set on the quirky slot), the issue right now is that the article makes no mention of the arm being "optional" (in addition, there's a minor typo in a nearby sentence: "maybe" instead of "may be").
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11:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)reply
If we have to to go with an April Fools Day hook, I think ALT3 is the best option since it's both accurate and quirky at the same time, without giving away too much (which seems to meet the spirit of DYK hooks more). Given concerns with the "steal" wording I'm only supportive of that term being used if it's an April Fools hook, but I guess others can also have other opinions. I don't think ALT4 is usable on any date as nowhere in the article suggests that the Canadarm that will be used for the module is "optional".
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12:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)reply
I have to note that the nominator proposed a new hook above as a possible AFD hook (ALT5), but I'm also leaning against it for the same reasons as ALT4: the article doesn't state that the arm in question is "optional". In addition, said hook talks about the right to "bear arms", but unless it's referring to the "robotic surfaces" mentioned in the article then it appears the subject only has one arm, so the hook is inaccurate too.
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10:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)reply
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BlueMoonset: I would very much welcome another opinion. I myself have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight and so my opinion on if the hooks are interesting or not may be skewed, so I was hoping for a second opinion from a more disinterested editor.
Narutolovehinata5 (
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03:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I am disinterested in space-related topics, and I think ALT1 is interesting. What is the source for this hook? The copyright concerns here still need to be addressed before it can be approved. There are also a few instances of
WP:CITEFOOT errors, where the reference comes after the punctuation and a space, which also needs to be cleaned up. Eagles24/7(C)21:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I have struck the original hook, ALT2, ALT3, and ALT5 per comments above, leaving ALT1 and ALT4 as possibilities for regular hooks, since AFD is past. Reviewer needed to check these hooks. Thanks.
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23:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Okay, since no one else has picked up this nomination and the planned-for-AFD hooks have now been struck (all of which I had reservations about), I'll be taking over the review. As I mentioned before, ALT4 is problematic: the hook states that the IHM has multiple arms and that they are "optional", when neither of them are stated in the article (the article only mentions a single arm, and it's not "optional"). That leaves us with ALT1. ALT1 I think is okay, the problem is the link to SpaceX is an
easter egg; it might be better to mention SpaceX explicitly then mention that it's a commercial company than the easter egg thing. ALT1 is not the best hook but per an above comment it may have some promise.
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00:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
ALT6 may need to be revised because not everyone may be familiar with SpaceX. Given that the core hook fact is the module potentially being brought to the moon by a commercial company, it may be a good idea to mention that SpaceX is one. Also, I do have some concerns about
WP:CRYSTAL and so maybe the hook needs to be revised to clarify that it's only a proposal for now and SpaceX (or any commercial company for that matter) bringing it to the moon is still not sure.
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00:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I've taken a look at ALT7 and I'd word the first part as "the design of the IHM" rather than "the IHM design". In addition, the article notes that it launching on the Falcon Heavy is only a possibility and as of right now the plan is still to launch it on SLS; thus, the hook needs to be clarified to reflect this. On looking at the article again, I noticed a fact I had originally missed: virtual reality was used by ESA for crew training. Perhaps a hook based on that can also be proposed?
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01:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the edits. The nomination is almost good to go; I have struck all hooks except for ALT7 and ALT8. My only remaining concern is that the article may still need some copyediting for grammar. The nomination will be approved once this has been accomplished.
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02:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from Lunar I-Hab appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 April 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the freighter Chester A. Congdon became the largest financial loss to date on the
Great Lakes when she wrecked in 1918?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spaceflight, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
spaceflight on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpaceflightWikipedia:WikiProject SpaceflightTemplate:WikiProject Spaceflightspaceflight articles
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Personally I thought the original hook could have been interesting, but maybe it's because I have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight, and I do understand where the concerns about lack of interest to a broad audience are coming from. With that said, perhaps a hook about it being the main habitat module of the Lunar Gateway or a hook about it being planned to launch at the same time as a crewed Orion spacecraft would work?
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
23:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The article says that it could "switch" launch providers, which isn't necessarily a "steal". However, for AFD hooks we do tend to be more loose with the allowed wordings, hence why I suggested that those wordings could work for AFD (they would be too imprecise to work on any other date).
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
10:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)reply
In addition, while ALT4 could work in case the "steal" hooks don't work out (and unlike those hooks, could probably run on a regular set on the quirky slot), the issue right now is that the article makes no mention of the arm being "optional" (in addition, there's a minor typo in a nearby sentence: "maybe" instead of "may be").
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
11:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)reply
If we have to to go with an April Fools Day hook, I think ALT3 is the best option since it's both accurate and quirky at the same time, without giving away too much (which seems to meet the spirit of DYK hooks more). Given concerns with the "steal" wording I'm only supportive of that term being used if it's an April Fools hook, but I guess others can also have other opinions. I don't think ALT4 is usable on any date as nowhere in the article suggests that the Canadarm that will be used for the module is "optional".
Narutolovehinata5 (
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contributions)
12:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)reply
I have to note that the nominator proposed a new hook above as a possible AFD hook (ALT5), but I'm also leaning against it for the same reasons as ALT4: the article doesn't state that the arm in question is "optional". In addition, said hook talks about the right to "bear arms", but unless it's referring to the "robotic surfaces" mentioned in the article then it appears the subject only has one arm, so the hook is inaccurate too.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
10:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)reply
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BlueMoonset: I would very much welcome another opinion. I myself have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight and so my opinion on if the hooks are interesting or not may be skewed, so I was hoping for a second opinion from a more disinterested editor.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
03:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I am disinterested in space-related topics, and I think ALT1 is interesting. What is the source for this hook? The copyright concerns here still need to be addressed before it can be approved. There are also a few instances of
WP:CITEFOOT errors, where the reference comes after the punctuation and a space, which also needs to be cleaned up. Eagles24/7(C)21:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I have struck the original hook, ALT2, ALT3, and ALT5 per comments above, leaving ALT1 and ALT4 as possibilities for regular hooks, since AFD is past. Reviewer needed to check these hooks. Thanks.
BlueMoonset (
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23:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Okay, since no one else has picked up this nomination and the planned-for-AFD hooks have now been struck (all of which I had reservations about), I'll be taking over the review. As I mentioned before, ALT4 is problematic: the hook states that the IHM has multiple arms and that they are "optional", when neither of them are stated in the article (the article only mentions a single arm, and it's not "optional"). That leaves us with ALT1. ALT1 I think is okay, the problem is the link to SpaceX is an
easter egg; it might be better to mention SpaceX explicitly then mention that it's a commercial company than the easter egg thing. ALT1 is not the best hook but per an above comment it may have some promise.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
00:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
ALT6 may need to be revised because not everyone may be familiar with SpaceX. Given that the core hook fact is the module potentially being brought to the moon by a commercial company, it may be a good idea to mention that SpaceX is one. Also, I do have some concerns about
WP:CRYSTAL and so maybe the hook needs to be revised to clarify that it's only a proposal for now and SpaceX (or any commercial company for that matter) bringing it to the moon is still not sure.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions)
00:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I've taken a look at ALT7 and I'd word the first part as "the design of the IHM" rather than "the IHM design". In addition, the article notes that it launching on the Falcon Heavy is only a possibility and as of right now the plan is still to launch it on SLS; thus, the hook needs to be clarified to reflect this. On looking at the article again, I noticed a fact I had originally missed: virtual reality was used by ESA for crew training. Perhaps a hook based on that can also be proposed?
Narutolovehinata5 (
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contributions)
01:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the edits. The nomination is almost good to go; I have struck all hooks except for ALT7 and ALT8. My only remaining concern is that the article may still need some copyediting for grammar. The nomination will be approved once this has been accomplished.
Narutolovehinata5 (
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02:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)reply