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Hopefully over the next few weeks I will be able to get my hands on the information needed to properly tune up this article. I'm just going to make a few things clear before I start, in the sense of fair play.
That's my plan and declarations, in black and white. Any comments or issues, either put them here, or on my talk page. -- Saberwyn 10:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I've added a few here, and added a few more to articles on the ride types featured here ( Rotor (ride) and Wild Mouse roller coaster at this point in time.
I plan to get an updated shot of the Face in the near future: they've made some temporary changes for the "Lunar Space Park" school-holiday carnival, as soon as the Face goes back to normal I'll go get snappy.
Is there anything anyone else wants (Historical pictures are going to be a royal arse to find, prepare, and include, but they can be tracked down by people not working at the Park with only a little effort) -- Saberwyn 13:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can I please ask what this ride / game is called - the one shown in the foreground in this picture:
The sign says "The wheel of joy", but it's a bit of a lame name, so hopefully that's not its real name.
It used to be called "King of the Castle" in the 1970's and early 1980's.
Whatever it is, it's tonnes of fun, and probably my favourite ride - just get on it with between 6 and 10 highly-competitive adult friends, and shove each other like all hell to be the last one left still on the spinning disc! ;-) -- All the best, Nickj (t) 00:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
its called the joy wheel
Harbourside Amusement Park opened in April 1982 (the change in name caused by a dispute between the current and previous owners, preventing use of the Luna Park name). The park ran until 1988. During this six year period, the Face was removed from the entry gates[...]
I read this to mean that the face was absent from 1982 to 1988, which surely isn't the case (or could my memories of at least a hundred visits to Luna Park during that period be so inaccurate? maybe!). Does anyone recall more specifically when the face was taken down, and for how long? Andoka 18:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. One other thing that seem strange to me is the reference to the name Harbourside Amusement Park. Looking on the timeline at Luna Park's website, they do indeed say that was the name of the park from 82-88. What was the extent of the use of that name? The sign out the front said Luna Park, [hhttp://static.flickr.com/66/204614150_5155b6a06e_m.jpg this image] shows the scary 1980s face with Luna Park above it, and it was popularly known and referred to as Luna Park. The only online reference to the Harbourside name I can find is on that timeline. Was it only a business name, and not a trading name as such? The prize tickets awarded for throuing balls in the clown heads did say Harbourside Amusement, however. Does anyone have an reliable independent source to show that the park traded as Harbourside, or conversely advertised at the time as Luna Park? I'm looking but so far coming up empty. The official party line just seems misleading in this case. Andoka 11:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Considering the amount of material on the Ghost Train, particularly since the Saffron announcement, would it be worth splitting it out into an individual article... ie Ghost Train (Luna Park Sydney)?? -- saberwyn 06:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The article has been nominated for FAC by an IP address, who due to technical limitations is unable to proceed further with the process. I have attempted to contact the user responsible in order to find out what is going on, and will delete the FAC tag if there is no reply by Thursday 17 January. -- saberwyn 12:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've received a comment on my user page regarding the location of images of the previous faces: this is something that should be looked into in regards to expansion of the article. Any comments or suggestions on where such images may be legally (and preferrably freely) acquired from? -- saberwyn 03:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The Have Phaser, Will Travel blog post has been removed as a source for information relating to Luna Park's appearance in an episode of Number 96. There are two reasons for this:
Although I have know knowledge of the show, I do not question that the information is correct. We just need to find a way to prove it other than saying to people "Sit down and watch it". I am sure that there are sources out there to prove that this information is correct; reviews of the relevant episode or DVD release, interviews of the cast, a published book, guide, or almanac on the series, trade publications or local newspapers noting the filming, etc; just because people haven't found it yet isn't to say that it is wrong. However, creating a blog entry for the sole purpose of proving the point is not the way to go. -- saberwyn 06:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, my sincere apologies, Saberwyn. I thought I was doing a useful thing. I was the person concerned who added the original piece (but certainly not anonymously, as far as i knew - although you've now delated my real name from my footnotes). I originally added the material many months ago and, because I wasn't able to create a footnote properly at the time, I added my source (ie. the DVD set, with its full publication details) into my text segment. Yesterday I saw that my entry had been tagged "citation needed", but so too had the title of the DVD. (So how does one cite a DVD? A link to the publisher wouldn't confirm that Luna Park footage was in it; you still have to see the DVD footage to confirm the information.) I didn't link Wikipedia to the Youtube footage (linked on my blog, though) because I figured someone had put that on Youtube (from the DVD) without copyright permission. Also, I'm saddened to realise that blogs are not acceptable for sourcing information. (I've had numerous occasions where other Wikipedia editors have linked to my blog entries, on a range of media topics, and usually without my permission. Should I now go and remove all these citations too?) I run the online official "Number 96" home page (since 1996, recognised as a socially significant website by the Pandora Archive of the National Library - but then, it doesn't get independent review process either.) It runs with full permission of the show's production house, but I've run out of room on my webspace, so use my blog to create updates. Are you saying that if the information on this 1976 television appearance of "Number 96" characters at Luna Park was on my website, instead of my blog, that it would be acceptable? I have my unpublished book manuscript on "Number 96"; what a shame it was eventually rejected by publishers in the 90s, because then I could have referenced that. Therin of Andor ( talk) 09:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Over the past week, there's been a fair bit of media hoo-hah over the release of a book titled Frommer's 500 places to see before they disappear. One of the 21 Australian places listed is Luna Park Sydney, so it might be worth someone getting hold of the book and seeing if there is any useful content. -- saberwyn 04:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I recently added {{ More footnotes}} maintenance template to this article, however it was recently removed. I have again restored it based on the following reasoning. The main reason why I added this template was the most of the 16 items listed in the References section relate to small items within the article and should feature in-text citations so that it is easy to identify what is being verified. The only item that should remain separate from <ref> tags is the full citation for "Marshall, Sam (2005)" as that is cited throughout with reference to the particular pages. I just thought I'd make it clear that I have no problems whatsoever about the Citations section only the References section. Hopefully this clear my intentions up a little. Themeparkgc Talk 08:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
And it's dumb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.161.75.221 ( talk) 06:44, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Yesterday, Category:Darts venues was added to this article by Kpaspery ( talk · contribs), because the Big Top was used for the 2013 Sydney Darts Masters. I removed the category here, because I did not think it was a relevant category for the subject. After a very brief talkpage conversation, they added a line to the amusement park's history about the darts event (presumabely separate to my rewrite of the Big Top section to indicate the variety of events it hosts, using the Darts Masters as an example), then readded the category.
I still think Category:Darts venues is an inappropriate category for this article. From Wikipedia:Categorization, "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having" (emphasis in original). Luna Park is an amusement park, and has been for its almost 80 years of existence. That is its defining feature, and what it should be categorised as. Luna Park has been a darts venue once. More specifically, a single building, which has designed as a multi-purpose venue, within an amusement park, capable of being configured within less than a day between events, hosting things as disparate as concerts, trade shows, conferences, weddings, tournaments, etc, was configured for a weekend to host a professional darts tournament. If the Big Top was in its own article, and if it was being used on a regular basis for darts tournaments, I could understand the category, but in the context of an 80-year-old amusement park, its not even a blip on the radar.
That said, I've already reverted once, so won't do so again. Does anyone else have an opinion? -- saberwyn 02:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hopefully over the next few weeks I will be able to get my hands on the information needed to properly tune up this article. I'm just going to make a few things clear before I start, in the sense of fair play.
That's my plan and declarations, in black and white. Any comments or issues, either put them here, or on my talk page. -- Saberwyn 10:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I've added a few here, and added a few more to articles on the ride types featured here ( Rotor (ride) and Wild Mouse roller coaster at this point in time.
I plan to get an updated shot of the Face in the near future: they've made some temporary changes for the "Lunar Space Park" school-holiday carnival, as soon as the Face goes back to normal I'll go get snappy.
Is there anything anyone else wants (Historical pictures are going to be a royal arse to find, prepare, and include, but they can be tracked down by people not working at the Park with only a little effort) -- Saberwyn 13:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can I please ask what this ride / game is called - the one shown in the foreground in this picture:
The sign says "The wheel of joy", but it's a bit of a lame name, so hopefully that's not its real name.
It used to be called "King of the Castle" in the 1970's and early 1980's.
Whatever it is, it's tonnes of fun, and probably my favourite ride - just get on it with between 6 and 10 highly-competitive adult friends, and shove each other like all hell to be the last one left still on the spinning disc! ;-) -- All the best, Nickj (t) 00:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
its called the joy wheel
Harbourside Amusement Park opened in April 1982 (the change in name caused by a dispute between the current and previous owners, preventing use of the Luna Park name). The park ran until 1988. During this six year period, the Face was removed from the entry gates[...]
I read this to mean that the face was absent from 1982 to 1988, which surely isn't the case (or could my memories of at least a hundred visits to Luna Park during that period be so inaccurate? maybe!). Does anyone recall more specifically when the face was taken down, and for how long? Andoka 18:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. One other thing that seem strange to me is the reference to the name Harbourside Amusement Park. Looking on the timeline at Luna Park's website, they do indeed say that was the name of the park from 82-88. What was the extent of the use of that name? The sign out the front said Luna Park, [hhttp://static.flickr.com/66/204614150_5155b6a06e_m.jpg this image] shows the scary 1980s face with Luna Park above it, and it was popularly known and referred to as Luna Park. The only online reference to the Harbourside name I can find is on that timeline. Was it only a business name, and not a trading name as such? The prize tickets awarded for throuing balls in the clown heads did say Harbourside Amusement, however. Does anyone have an reliable independent source to show that the park traded as Harbourside, or conversely advertised at the time as Luna Park? I'm looking but so far coming up empty. The official party line just seems misleading in this case. Andoka 11:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Considering the amount of material on the Ghost Train, particularly since the Saffron announcement, would it be worth splitting it out into an individual article... ie Ghost Train (Luna Park Sydney)?? -- saberwyn 06:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The article has been nominated for FAC by an IP address, who due to technical limitations is unable to proceed further with the process. I have attempted to contact the user responsible in order to find out what is going on, and will delete the FAC tag if there is no reply by Thursday 17 January. -- saberwyn 12:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've received a comment on my user page regarding the location of images of the previous faces: this is something that should be looked into in regards to expansion of the article. Any comments or suggestions on where such images may be legally (and preferrably freely) acquired from? -- saberwyn 03:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The Have Phaser, Will Travel blog post has been removed as a source for information relating to Luna Park's appearance in an episode of Number 96. There are two reasons for this:
Although I have know knowledge of the show, I do not question that the information is correct. We just need to find a way to prove it other than saying to people "Sit down and watch it". I am sure that there are sources out there to prove that this information is correct; reviews of the relevant episode or DVD release, interviews of the cast, a published book, guide, or almanac on the series, trade publications or local newspapers noting the filming, etc; just because people haven't found it yet isn't to say that it is wrong. However, creating a blog entry for the sole purpose of proving the point is not the way to go. -- saberwyn 06:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, my sincere apologies, Saberwyn. I thought I was doing a useful thing. I was the person concerned who added the original piece (but certainly not anonymously, as far as i knew - although you've now delated my real name from my footnotes). I originally added the material many months ago and, because I wasn't able to create a footnote properly at the time, I added my source (ie. the DVD set, with its full publication details) into my text segment. Yesterday I saw that my entry had been tagged "citation needed", but so too had the title of the DVD. (So how does one cite a DVD? A link to the publisher wouldn't confirm that Luna Park footage was in it; you still have to see the DVD footage to confirm the information.) I didn't link Wikipedia to the Youtube footage (linked on my blog, though) because I figured someone had put that on Youtube (from the DVD) without copyright permission. Also, I'm saddened to realise that blogs are not acceptable for sourcing information. (I've had numerous occasions where other Wikipedia editors have linked to my blog entries, on a range of media topics, and usually without my permission. Should I now go and remove all these citations too?) I run the online official "Number 96" home page (since 1996, recognised as a socially significant website by the Pandora Archive of the National Library - but then, it doesn't get independent review process either.) It runs with full permission of the show's production house, but I've run out of room on my webspace, so use my blog to create updates. Are you saying that if the information on this 1976 television appearance of "Number 96" characters at Luna Park was on my website, instead of my blog, that it would be acceptable? I have my unpublished book manuscript on "Number 96"; what a shame it was eventually rejected by publishers in the 90s, because then I could have referenced that. Therin of Andor ( talk) 09:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Over the past week, there's been a fair bit of media hoo-hah over the release of a book titled Frommer's 500 places to see before they disappear. One of the 21 Australian places listed is Luna Park Sydney, so it might be worth someone getting hold of the book and seeing if there is any useful content. -- saberwyn 04:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I recently added {{ More footnotes}} maintenance template to this article, however it was recently removed. I have again restored it based on the following reasoning. The main reason why I added this template was the most of the 16 items listed in the References section relate to small items within the article and should feature in-text citations so that it is easy to identify what is being verified. The only item that should remain separate from <ref> tags is the full citation for "Marshall, Sam (2005)" as that is cited throughout with reference to the particular pages. I just thought I'd make it clear that I have no problems whatsoever about the Citations section only the References section. Hopefully this clear my intentions up a little. Themeparkgc Talk 08:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
And it's dumb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.161.75.221 ( talk) 06:44, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Yesterday, Category:Darts venues was added to this article by Kpaspery ( talk · contribs), because the Big Top was used for the 2013 Sydney Darts Masters. I removed the category here, because I did not think it was a relevant category for the subject. After a very brief talkpage conversation, they added a line to the amusement park's history about the darts event (presumabely separate to my rewrite of the Big Top section to indicate the variety of events it hosts, using the Darts Masters as an example), then readded the category.
I still think Category:Darts venues is an inappropriate category for this article. From Wikipedia:Categorization, "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having" (emphasis in original). Luna Park is an amusement park, and has been for its almost 80 years of existence. That is its defining feature, and what it should be categorised as. Luna Park has been a darts venue once. More specifically, a single building, which has designed as a multi-purpose venue, within an amusement park, capable of being configured within less than a day between events, hosting things as disparate as concerts, trade shows, conferences, weddings, tournaments, etc, was configured for a weekend to host a professional darts tournament. If the Big Top was in its own article, and if it was being used on a regular basis for darts tournaments, I could understand the category, but in the context of an 80-year-old amusement park, its not even a blip on the radar.
That said, I've already reverted once, so won't do so again. Does anyone else have an opinion? -- saberwyn 02:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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