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J. D. Redding 13:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC) [ps., be nice if someone would put in the citations for this]
In a school trip a guide told us the other side of the stadium was open so the visiting team would have trouble playing if it rained/snowed because it would go in their face. Is this true? If it is should it go in the article? Jose Me ( talk) 05:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
A redirect to a disambig page has been for the WaMu Theatre (which is also in Madison Square Garden in New York). There's no mention of the theatre in this article now. However I see the webpages that it exists. Somebody who is familiar with it might add a section. Thanks. Americasroof ( talk) 16:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP keeps on adjusting the capacity for Sounders games by a couple thousand. I am reverting but if there is a source that says otherwise please put it in. Personally, I hope the editor is correct but have not been able to verify.
Cptnono (
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http://www.examiner.com/x-413-Seattle-Soccer-Examiner~y2009m3d2-Sounders-FC-Sells-Out-Home-Opener-team-to-cap-season-ticket-memberships-at-22000 27,700 it is
I recently uploaded a new aerial photo of Qwest Field with Safeco Field, below. Feel free to use if useful. Dcoetzee 09:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's a high resolution aerial photo I took in August of 2009. I've added it into the article twice, but it was removed twice. In case someone wants to use it in the future, I'm putting it here instead, so it doesn't get lost. Cheers, Jelson25 ( talk) 02:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I found this new rule from IFAB:
Will this rule have any affects on the stadium, since the dimensions listed in this article are slightly smaller than the new 'standard'?
Follow-up: I still can't find anything. Qwest Field has not updated their page mentioning the dimension since '07. The rulilng is for A international matches. Grass would more than likely be laid down for such events so they could chalk the lines differently. Plenty of teams in the States and internationally still have smaller fields than Qwest so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Cptnono ( talk) 07:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Although Cacophony has added some great images to Wikipedia I personally don't feel the Qwest one is the best. The panorama causes the field to look warped, it is a little out of focus, perspective comes across confusing without something central to focus on, and it is out of date with the change of the end zone color. If anyone wants to go through the commons and find one that might be better for this use I would be curious to see the results. Cptnono ( talk) 22:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I removed the above sentence because it was unreferenced and ambiguous. If someone has a citation as to what the NFL monitored, what the purpose of it was, and what the result was, feel free to put it back in. hateless 03:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
paul nenema-- 67.185.130.21 ( talk) 05:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)paul nenema
As a few editors have shown over the last month or so with their removal: False starts seen on the scoreboard during a game cannot be added here unless it is backed by a published source due to verification purposes. It also would be a pain to update it every week so it is best to leave it out. An update at the end of the season would be great but per game just doesn't seem like it is going to work. Cptnono ( talk) 07:59, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the capacity of the stand-alone North Stand is? The C of E ( talk) 13:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe this article needs a well written lead, grammar and prose tweaks, and some wikignoming to raise it to a higher level on the assessment scale. If anyone has any input or feels like improving the article it would be awesome. Cptnono ( talk) 02:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
The following section in the lead concerns me:
The MLS expansion team, Seattle Sounders FC, began its inaugural season with a home game in 2009. The stadium was the site of the 2009 MLS Cup.
It is very disconnected from the rest of the paragraph, but doesn't make much sense on its own, either. A potential solution I almost added was "The Seattle Sounders' MLS expansion team, the Seattle Sounders FC, began its inaugural season...." but I don't know if that's accurate; I'm not an expert on this subject. Any insight on how this section might be reworded would be great. -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 21:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Allen agreed to pay the $4 million cost of the vote and the legislature approved.
I can't understand from context; what is this "$4 million cost of the vote"? I almost changed this to "With Allen agreeing to pay the $4 million cost, the legislature approved" but realized this might be factually inaccurate. Is this correct? -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 21:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Has there been an official word on why they restrict attendance for Sounders games to such a low number? I would have thought, with them selling out or coming close to selling out almost every game that they would have increased available seating. Just seems strange. 94.196.48.147 ( talk) 21:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
The article explains why the roof was painted white, then a caption references the blue roof. What's up with this? HuskyHuskie ( talk) 09:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I have seen sources that construction of the stadium (not demolition of the Kingdome and not of the complex) began in April 2000. But since I am not finding anything about a groundbreaking ceremony I am simply removing it. The parameter is still in for the complex but if it causes confusion that should be removed as well. Cptnono ( talk) 01:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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I shot some updated photos around Seattle yesterday. Putting this photo here in case it's useful to you. Jelson25 ( talk) 16:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
There are two references to the Sounders (USL, not MLS) having played the first ever event in Qwest, however this isn't entirely accurate. There was a double header that day and the Sounders Select Women played the first game. There are a few references about that can be tricky to track down. Other than having been there myself, here's one a real reference to appease the doubters.
http://soundercentral.com/museum/2002sounders_christen_seahawks_stadi.htm ("SELECTS WIN: The Sounders Select Women defeated the Vancouver Breakers 4-3 in overtime in a warm-up to the main event."
Granted, the women weren't as prestegious a team, and it lacks the parity with the Sounders playing the first ever game in the Kingdome. But since the Sounders Select were a professional team in a professional league, I can't really justify disrespecting them by ignoring the fact that they played before the Sounders men. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contagion21 ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Here is a Seattle PI news story from July 28, 2002, that also describes the Sounders Select Women game: http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Sounders-christen-Seahawks-Stadium-before-25-515-1092351.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.10.121.133 ( talk) 19:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I learned just enough about wikipedia to post in this discussion section; I wouldn't consider editing the article myself. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contagion21 ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I have removed attmepts to add "Clink". I hear the name some myself but so far it has not taken off as big as originally assumed. If ti gets more media attention then we will have a reliable source. So far the best we have is speculation. See this. Cptnono ( talk) 20:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Follow-up: I have added a line regarding the speculation. I am for it going into the infobox after it turns out to be really seen and heard. I prefer reliable sources (since this is Wikipedia) but would also be happy if it really took off and we all notice it. I did see another funny article where the company rep actually discussed how he doubted that Clink would take off. From personal experience of numerous events there in 2011, Clink is rarely used (at this time). Cptnono ( talk) 21:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
When it takes off as a nickname (it probably will) then it will be good enough for the lead. Google News Archives shows less than 20 hits regarding the nickname. Several are speculation from the Summer while several are blogs. Not a big enough deal to worry about I guess but think that Wikipedia should not be used to force your preferred name change. Give it some time. Cptnono ( talk) 01:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Since the other editor is evading scrutiny by switching to the IP I will cease edit warring for the day since there is a talk page section open. This source and the wording ("commonly") are disputed. Thiel thought it would be called The Clink from his reading of Twitter feeds when it first switched over. KING5 (who picked up the story only) did not put it in its own words by specifically pointing to his name in the title. Thiel ended up also being wrong. He thought that other sportswriters would have fun with the name in headlines. It has not happened yet and it has been several months. Please see Google News Archives for the sources covering the recent season. Cptnono ( talk) 02:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
---It is commonly referred to as "The Clink" by sportscasters on the local news in the Seattle area. And here is an article from late December 2011 using the nickname ( http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/12/football-fan-assaults-seattle-police-officer-at-the-clink/) I'd say it's here already and should be on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.103.153.224 ( talk) 02:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Cptnono ( talk) 02:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought it was important to add that soccer games are played on grass at seahawks stadium. didn't add this but I know that the first time the added grass they removed the turf first. Does anybody know if they use palletized grass now like they do in Huston? I promise I will come back with a reference for the arguement over turf or grass at the stadium. It was a big deal at the time I don't know why I can't find an article now. I wouldn't mind if someone help me find one. 26, February 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.179.70.179 ( talk) 18:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd also like to hear more details about the surface for soccer. The article seems to imply that they do play on the artificial turf, but that real grass is also brought in for certain games. An explanation of when they use real grass vs. artificial would be great--especially with any details as to how real grass gets put in. (I also noticed that they water the surface during halftime at soccer matches...is that the real grass they are watering or artificial? If the latter, why do they water it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.100.164 ( talk) 08:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Stop edit warring.
I don't care if the 12th Man thing has been picked up by the media. I don't care if Baylor sucks. I do care that you are edit warring. The edit you requested is live. I had to spend 5 minutes cleaning it up since it was against the MoS and placed inappropriately. Enough is enough. This is a Featured Article. It is now time to bring it to the talk page if you have a problem. The false starts are in. but it was moved since the line was in the wrong place, removed another sourced line, and was not formatted correctly. hat else do you want? Stop fucking up a Featured Article. I plan on reverting potentially nonconstructive edits that do not come to the talk page first. It shouldn't have even come to this or a request to ave you blocked (stop edit warring on other pages as well). Cptnono ( talk) 06:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
There are (only) two sentences on the public vote. The second of which was recently deleted (and now re-added):
This was a controversial out-of-cycle election financed privately by the football franchise owner.
The citation could be improved, but removing editor did not include an edit summary. So their issue is unclear. UW Dawgs ( talk) 16:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I have updated the article to mention that the Seahawks organization is now referring to their fans as "12s" rather than the "12th Man". I also have included a citation from Seahawks.com that uses that fan description. I included mention that the fans were originally referred to as the "12th Man". Recognizing that both terms are currently commonly being used, I don't believe that making reference to the "12s" moniker is in any way a violation of WP:COMMONNAME:: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macae ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Sodo does not mean "south of Downtown" unless you are new. It means "South of Dome" and the stadium sits on the same site. The Seattle City Clerk, along with the The Seattle Times and other sources, says it is in Pioneer Square. Stop edit warring on an FA and leave it ambiguous.
Sounderbruce's revert to the move of the seismic stuff during Seahawks games to its own section is bloat and unwieldly, It has always belonged in the home field advantage section. 2601:601:CE7F:E270:DDB:525:8F91:2012 ( talk) 06:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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J. D. Redding 13:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC) [ps., be nice if someone would put in the citations for this]
In a school trip a guide told us the other side of the stadium was open so the visiting team would have trouble playing if it rained/snowed because it would go in their face. Is this true? If it is should it go in the article? Jose Me ( talk) 05:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
A redirect to a disambig page has been for the WaMu Theatre (which is also in Madison Square Garden in New York). There's no mention of the theatre in this article now. However I see the webpages that it exists. Somebody who is familiar with it might add a section. Thanks. Americasroof ( talk) 16:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP keeps on adjusting the capacity for Sounders games by a couple thousand. I am reverting but if there is a source that says otherwise please put it in. Personally, I hope the editor is correct but have not been able to verify.
Cptnono (
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21:22, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.examiner.com/x-413-Seattle-Soccer-Examiner~y2009m3d2-Sounders-FC-Sells-Out-Home-Opener-team-to-cap-season-ticket-memberships-at-22000 27,700 it is
I recently uploaded a new aerial photo of Qwest Field with Safeco Field, below. Feel free to use if useful. Dcoetzee 09:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's a high resolution aerial photo I took in August of 2009. I've added it into the article twice, but it was removed twice. In case someone wants to use it in the future, I'm putting it here instead, so it doesn't get lost. Cheers, Jelson25 ( talk) 02:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I found this new rule from IFAB:
Will this rule have any affects on the stadium, since the dimensions listed in this article are slightly smaller than the new 'standard'?
Follow-up: I still can't find anything. Qwest Field has not updated their page mentioning the dimension since '07. The rulilng is for A international matches. Grass would more than likely be laid down for such events so they could chalk the lines differently. Plenty of teams in the States and internationally still have smaller fields than Qwest so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Cptnono ( talk) 07:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Although Cacophony has added some great images to Wikipedia I personally don't feel the Qwest one is the best. The panorama causes the field to look warped, it is a little out of focus, perspective comes across confusing without something central to focus on, and it is out of date with the change of the end zone color. If anyone wants to go through the commons and find one that might be better for this use I would be curious to see the results. Cptnono ( talk) 22:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I removed the above sentence because it was unreferenced and ambiguous. If someone has a citation as to what the NFL monitored, what the purpose of it was, and what the result was, feel free to put it back in. hateless 03:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
paul nenema-- 67.185.130.21 ( talk) 05:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)paul nenema
As a few editors have shown over the last month or so with their removal: False starts seen on the scoreboard during a game cannot be added here unless it is backed by a published source due to verification purposes. It also would be a pain to update it every week so it is best to leave it out. An update at the end of the season would be great but per game just doesn't seem like it is going to work. Cptnono ( talk) 07:59, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the capacity of the stand-alone North Stand is? The C of E ( talk) 13:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe this article needs a well written lead, grammar and prose tweaks, and some wikignoming to raise it to a higher level on the assessment scale. If anyone has any input or feels like improving the article it would be awesome. Cptnono ( talk) 02:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
The following section in the lead concerns me:
The MLS expansion team, Seattle Sounders FC, began its inaugural season with a home game in 2009. The stadium was the site of the 2009 MLS Cup.
It is very disconnected from the rest of the paragraph, but doesn't make much sense on its own, either. A potential solution I almost added was "The Seattle Sounders' MLS expansion team, the Seattle Sounders FC, began its inaugural season...." but I don't know if that's accurate; I'm not an expert on this subject. Any insight on how this section might be reworded would be great. -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 21:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Allen agreed to pay the $4 million cost of the vote and the legislature approved.
I can't understand from context; what is this "$4 million cost of the vote"? I almost changed this to "With Allen agreeing to pay the $4 million cost, the legislature approved" but realized this might be factually inaccurate. Is this correct? -- Shirik ( Questions or Comments?) 21:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Has there been an official word on why they restrict attendance for Sounders games to such a low number? I would have thought, with them selling out or coming close to selling out almost every game that they would have increased available seating. Just seems strange. 94.196.48.147 ( talk) 21:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
The article explains why the roof was painted white, then a caption references the blue roof. What's up with this? HuskyHuskie ( talk) 09:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I have seen sources that construction of the stadium (not demolition of the Kingdome and not of the complex) began in April 2000. But since I am not finding anything about a groundbreaking ceremony I am simply removing it. The parameter is still in for the complex but if it causes confusion that should be removed as well. Cptnono ( talk) 01:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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I shot some updated photos around Seattle yesterday. Putting this photo here in case it's useful to you. Jelson25 ( talk) 16:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
There are two references to the Sounders (USL, not MLS) having played the first ever event in Qwest, however this isn't entirely accurate. There was a double header that day and the Sounders Select Women played the first game. There are a few references about that can be tricky to track down. Other than having been there myself, here's one a real reference to appease the doubters.
http://soundercentral.com/museum/2002sounders_christen_seahawks_stadi.htm ("SELECTS WIN: The Sounders Select Women defeated the Vancouver Breakers 4-3 in overtime in a warm-up to the main event."
Granted, the women weren't as prestegious a team, and it lacks the parity with the Sounders playing the first ever game in the Kingdome. But since the Sounders Select were a professional team in a professional league, I can't really justify disrespecting them by ignoring the fact that they played before the Sounders men. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contagion21 ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Here is a Seattle PI news story from July 28, 2002, that also describes the Sounders Select Women game: http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Sounders-christen-Seahawks-Stadium-before-25-515-1092351.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.10.121.133 ( talk) 19:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I learned just enough about wikipedia to post in this discussion section; I wouldn't consider editing the article myself. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contagion21 ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I have removed attmepts to add "Clink". I hear the name some myself but so far it has not taken off as big as originally assumed. If ti gets more media attention then we will have a reliable source. So far the best we have is speculation. See this. Cptnono ( talk) 20:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Follow-up: I have added a line regarding the speculation. I am for it going into the infobox after it turns out to be really seen and heard. I prefer reliable sources (since this is Wikipedia) but would also be happy if it really took off and we all notice it. I did see another funny article where the company rep actually discussed how he doubted that Clink would take off. From personal experience of numerous events there in 2011, Clink is rarely used (at this time). Cptnono ( talk) 21:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
When it takes off as a nickname (it probably will) then it will be good enough for the lead. Google News Archives shows less than 20 hits regarding the nickname. Several are speculation from the Summer while several are blogs. Not a big enough deal to worry about I guess but think that Wikipedia should not be used to force your preferred name change. Give it some time. Cptnono ( talk) 01:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Since the other editor is evading scrutiny by switching to the IP I will cease edit warring for the day since there is a talk page section open. This source and the wording ("commonly") are disputed. Thiel thought it would be called The Clink from his reading of Twitter feeds when it first switched over. KING5 (who picked up the story only) did not put it in its own words by specifically pointing to his name in the title. Thiel ended up also being wrong. He thought that other sportswriters would have fun with the name in headlines. It has not happened yet and it has been several months. Please see Google News Archives for the sources covering the recent season. Cptnono ( talk) 02:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
---It is commonly referred to as "The Clink" by sportscasters on the local news in the Seattle area. And here is an article from late December 2011 using the nickname ( http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/12/football-fan-assaults-seattle-police-officer-at-the-clink/) I'd say it's here already and should be on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.103.153.224 ( talk) 02:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Cptnono ( talk) 02:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought it was important to add that soccer games are played on grass at seahawks stadium. didn't add this but I know that the first time the added grass they removed the turf first. Does anybody know if they use palletized grass now like they do in Huston? I promise I will come back with a reference for the arguement over turf or grass at the stadium. It was a big deal at the time I don't know why I can't find an article now. I wouldn't mind if someone help me find one. 26, February 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.179.70.179 ( talk) 18:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd also like to hear more details about the surface for soccer. The article seems to imply that they do play on the artificial turf, but that real grass is also brought in for certain games. An explanation of when they use real grass vs. artificial would be great--especially with any details as to how real grass gets put in. (I also noticed that they water the surface during halftime at soccer matches...is that the real grass they are watering or artificial? If the latter, why do they water it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.100.164 ( talk) 08:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Stop edit warring.
I don't care if the 12th Man thing has been picked up by the media. I don't care if Baylor sucks. I do care that you are edit warring. The edit you requested is live. I had to spend 5 minutes cleaning it up since it was against the MoS and placed inappropriately. Enough is enough. This is a Featured Article. It is now time to bring it to the talk page if you have a problem. The false starts are in. but it was moved since the line was in the wrong place, removed another sourced line, and was not formatted correctly. hat else do you want? Stop fucking up a Featured Article. I plan on reverting potentially nonconstructive edits that do not come to the talk page first. It shouldn't have even come to this or a request to ave you blocked (stop edit warring on other pages as well). Cptnono ( talk) 06:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
There are (only) two sentences on the public vote. The second of which was recently deleted (and now re-added):
This was a controversial out-of-cycle election financed privately by the football franchise owner.
The citation could be improved, but removing editor did not include an edit summary. So their issue is unclear. UW Dawgs ( talk) 16:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I have updated the article to mention that the Seahawks organization is now referring to their fans as "12s" rather than the "12th Man". I also have included a citation from Seahawks.com that uses that fan description. I included mention that the fans were originally referred to as the "12th Man". Recognizing that both terms are currently commonly being used, I don't believe that making reference to the "12s" moniker is in any way a violation of WP:COMMONNAME:: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macae ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Sodo does not mean "south of Downtown" unless you are new. It means "South of Dome" and the stadium sits on the same site. The Seattle City Clerk, along with the The Seattle Times and other sources, says it is in Pioneer Square. Stop edit warring on an FA and leave it ambiguous.
Sounderbruce's revert to the move of the seismic stuff during Seahawks games to its own section is bloat and unwieldly, It has always belonged in the home field advantage section. 2601:601:CE7F:E270:DDB:525:8F91:2012 ( talk) 06:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)