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This article states that Theo Rossi has been cast along with Alfre Woodard and Rosario Dawson. DinoSlider ( talk) 17:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Mahershala Ali on Luke Cage Netflix page is in main cast [1]. Mike210381 ( talk) 17:36, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
It seems that there was a wrap party for the series at some point, hopefully there will be a source out there for us to use for filming ending. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Supposedly, there is a teaser trailer for Luke Cage after the final episode of Daredevil Season 2. I found a pic of the logo here. - Richiekim ( talk) 18:50, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: I'm not so sure that an explanation of the episode titles is not appropriate for the episode section. I agree that it does fit in as writing information, and I know that we don't usually have anything other than the episode tables in the episode section, but sometimes we do have notes on things in the table for clarity, and I think a short paragraph explaining the titles fits under that umbrella. I for one would never have known that the episode titles were the names of songs, as I am not familiar with Gang Starr or any of their work. Yes, people like me would learn this after reading through the rest of the article, but what if they are just checking the episode table? It just seems like a more appropriate place to let people, who otherwise wouldn't even realise or go looking for it, know what it means. - adamstom97 ( talk) 07:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Should be be lucky enough to get the a second season, necessitating a move of much of this content to Luke Cage (season 1), here is the poster we can upload. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
The episode listing is up to 10 right now for those with known titles. But we know that the series will be 13 episodes total. Why not have 13 rows, with the unknown titles listed as "TBA" or some similar verbiage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bflaminio ( talk • contribs) 17:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I've recently had to remove a bunch if episode titles from the article, as they have no reference noting their validity. Someone else reverted it back in; I'm hoping it was only because my initial removal messed up the table. I've removed the uncited information again and fixed the table malformation that resulted from the initial edit. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 03:42, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that is precisely what I am saying (
and its exactly what I did). The reason we do things this way to allow for more in-depth information about show titles to have their own source if the need should arise later. If you group them all at the top, slapdash-like, it makes the process of expansion more tedious in the long run. If you ask around in the Wikiproject, you will find that this is basic common sense.
And I should point out that I don't really care if you think your ears are too delicate for my language; if its wrong, I am going to say so. You should have learned that about me by now.
Since I fixed the thing I saw needing fixing, instead of leaving the onus of repair on you, I consider the matter concluded. Move on. -
Jack Sebastian (
talk) 06:08, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Returning to the subject at hand, I think that listing the source for the episode names is not the best way to proceed. I think that each title should be cited individually. As the episodes are aired/released, there will be considerable reviews of them, and more information as to why the episodes are named the way they are. Listing an overriding citation in the column header prevents that from happening. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
It is why you do not ever see this sort of citation styling in GA or FA articlesI beg to differ. List of Doctor Who serials is FA, and Series 10's table uses such a layout. I could give other examples as well. And nothing is stopping you from adding both an encompassing reference and individual reference. However, no such extra references are required, as no further information concerning the episode titles needs to be added to the episode table. And individual references won't even be removed from the table, given that the all of the episode of the entire season are being released at the same time. Alex|The|Whovian ? 08:00, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
When new information becomes available for some (but not all) of the episodes, the columnal citation messes up the individual citations that develop out for some but not all of the titles.How? The only other sources in the table, currently, are for the writers and directors for episodes 1-3. And each of those do not have the episode title, nor the air date, in them. So they are properly placed. If you have a "catch-all" source to cite everything in the column, it is perfectly fine to put it in the heading, rather than duplicating it unnecessarily X amount of times. Also, the refs for episode information are really only needed until they air, per WP:CRYSTAL. Then the episodes themselves become the sources, per WP:PRIMARY, and the refs are removed. Refs can be added again in cases where info is contentious or would benefit from having a third-party source. And yes, if for some reason the "catch-all" source no longer verifies the info, or say you get one to cover only all of episode 1's info but you still only have just the titles for the rest of the episodes, then the sources would be reformatted appropriately, with the refs next to each piece of info it cites. But that isn't our case here, and placing the ref in the heading (which is not concealed) is perfectly fine (as Adam and Alex have also been stating). - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 05:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Turns out, Jack Sebastian, it was actually harder to remove the individual references (could have done it by hand, but ended up using regex in my notepad), whereas it would have been easier to do it through the header. The more you know. Alex|The|Whovian ? 08:21, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
In the page, under the 'Release' section, it might be more clarifying to edit "The 13 hour-long episodes" to "The 13, hour-long, episodes" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.132.4 ( talk) 16:10, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I have seen news report about Alfre Woodard being cast, but I am not quite sure this is official. She could be Black Mariah, a relatively obscure Marvel character who does not have its own entry in wikipedia. Hektor ( talk) 11:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Can someone please tell me what is a "Culprint" ???
Thank you !
69.50.70.9 ( talk) 21:18, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I notice all the episode titles (for Season One) are song titles from the hip-hop group Gangstarr. In which section would it be appropriate to note this? Thanks -- Chimino ( talk) 05:52, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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In the episode 9 summary, please change "Temple locates a severely injured Cage" to "Cage locates Temple" as it is Cage who finds Temple when he flees in a police car after fighting off two policemen.
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For episode 9 summary, please add "The experiment is unsuccessful and Cage experiences cardiac distress and then, apparently, dies." after the current summary as it is not complete.
Mohitk2908 ( talk) 17:26, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
JesseRafe has been removing cast members, seemingly arbitrary, from the cast list, citing WP:CAST (that isn't a thing, so please clarify what you meant). Local consensus for the MCU articles, in order to best classify non-starring actors and characters, has decided that 4 or more appearances in a series constitutes "Recurring" status, with any other named actors appearing 2-3 or notably in 1 appearance in the "Guest" section (including actors reprising roles from previous MCU media). That is the rationale for how all the characters seen here were included. And as I stated, it seems that JesseRafe is just arbitrarily removing actors, even with the hidden notes included to inform editors criteria for these sections. Please explain why you were removing only certain actors that fit the criteria of inclusion. If it is a matter of the list being "too big", we can have a discussion about potentially splitting the characters to a List of characters article, though that is generally something done once a second season has been ordered. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:31, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
"It" is a pronoun. Pronouns are capitalized in titles. Generally the things that are not capitalized are articles, conjunctions, and prepositions. "It" is none of those. Also, the official Netflix title card has the episode named "Take It Personal". Really, there is no reason for this to even be a Talk Section, and there is almost no case for "It" to be lowercase (save for the generic rule of thumb of some style guidelines that say words under 3/4/5 letters can be lowercase, but even then those rules have caveats for words like, "it", "be", "are", "was", etc.). - Uncleben85 ( talk) 15:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Hasn't anybody noticed yet that all titles of the episodes are GangStarr songs? I think it is worth mentioning
-- Kontemarlos ( talk) 16:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
This article states that Theo Rossi has been cast along with Alfre Woodard and Rosario Dawson. DinoSlider ( talk) 17:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Mahershala Ali on Luke Cage Netflix page is in main cast [1]. Mike210381 ( talk) 17:36, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
It seems that there was a wrap party for the series at some point, hopefully there will be a source out there for us to use for filming ending. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Supposedly, there is a teaser trailer for Luke Cage after the final episode of Daredevil Season 2. I found a pic of the logo here. - Richiekim ( talk) 18:50, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93: I'm not so sure that an explanation of the episode titles is not appropriate for the episode section. I agree that it does fit in as writing information, and I know that we don't usually have anything other than the episode tables in the episode section, but sometimes we do have notes on things in the table for clarity, and I think a short paragraph explaining the titles fits under that umbrella. I for one would never have known that the episode titles were the names of songs, as I am not familiar with Gang Starr or any of their work. Yes, people like me would learn this after reading through the rest of the article, but what if they are just checking the episode table? It just seems like a more appropriate place to let people, who otherwise wouldn't even realise or go looking for it, know what it means. - adamstom97 ( talk) 07:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Should be be lucky enough to get the a second season, necessitating a move of much of this content to Luke Cage (season 1), here is the poster we can upload. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
The episode listing is up to 10 right now for those with known titles. But we know that the series will be 13 episodes total. Why not have 13 rows, with the unknown titles listed as "TBA" or some similar verbiage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bflaminio ( talk • contribs) 17:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I've recently had to remove a bunch if episode titles from the article, as they have no reference noting their validity. Someone else reverted it back in; I'm hoping it was only because my initial removal messed up the table. I've removed the uncited information again and fixed the table malformation that resulted from the initial edit. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 03:42, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that is precisely what I am saying (
and its exactly what I did). The reason we do things this way to allow for more in-depth information about show titles to have their own source if the need should arise later. If you group them all at the top, slapdash-like, it makes the process of expansion more tedious in the long run. If you ask around in the Wikiproject, you will find that this is basic common sense.
And I should point out that I don't really care if you think your ears are too delicate for my language; if its wrong, I am going to say so. You should have learned that about me by now.
Since I fixed the thing I saw needing fixing, instead of leaving the onus of repair on you, I consider the matter concluded. Move on. -
Jack Sebastian (
talk) 06:08, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Returning to the subject at hand, I think that listing the source for the episode names is not the best way to proceed. I think that each title should be cited individually. As the episodes are aired/released, there will be considerable reviews of them, and more information as to why the episodes are named the way they are. Listing an overriding citation in the column header prevents that from happening. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
It is why you do not ever see this sort of citation styling in GA or FA articlesI beg to differ. List of Doctor Who serials is FA, and Series 10's table uses such a layout. I could give other examples as well. And nothing is stopping you from adding both an encompassing reference and individual reference. However, no such extra references are required, as no further information concerning the episode titles needs to be added to the episode table. And individual references won't even be removed from the table, given that the all of the episode of the entire season are being released at the same time. Alex|The|Whovian ? 08:00, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
When new information becomes available for some (but not all) of the episodes, the columnal citation messes up the individual citations that develop out for some but not all of the titles.How? The only other sources in the table, currently, are for the writers and directors for episodes 1-3. And each of those do not have the episode title, nor the air date, in them. So they are properly placed. If you have a "catch-all" source to cite everything in the column, it is perfectly fine to put it in the heading, rather than duplicating it unnecessarily X amount of times. Also, the refs for episode information are really only needed until they air, per WP:CRYSTAL. Then the episodes themselves become the sources, per WP:PRIMARY, and the refs are removed. Refs can be added again in cases where info is contentious or would benefit from having a third-party source. And yes, if for some reason the "catch-all" source no longer verifies the info, or say you get one to cover only all of episode 1's info but you still only have just the titles for the rest of the episodes, then the sources would be reformatted appropriately, with the refs next to each piece of info it cites. But that isn't our case here, and placing the ref in the heading (which is not concealed) is perfectly fine (as Adam and Alex have also been stating). - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 05:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Turns out, Jack Sebastian, it was actually harder to remove the individual references (could have done it by hand, but ended up using regex in my notepad), whereas it would have been easier to do it through the header. The more you know. Alex|The|Whovian ? 08:21, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
In the page, under the 'Release' section, it might be more clarifying to edit "The 13 hour-long episodes" to "The 13, hour-long, episodes" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.132.4 ( talk) 16:10, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I have seen news report about Alfre Woodard being cast, but I am not quite sure this is official. She could be Black Mariah, a relatively obscure Marvel character who does not have its own entry in wikipedia. Hektor ( talk) 11:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Can someone please tell me what is a "Culprint" ???
Thank you !
69.50.70.9 ( talk) 21:18, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I notice all the episode titles (for Season One) are song titles from the hip-hop group Gangstarr. In which section would it be appropriate to note this? Thanks -- Chimino ( talk) 05:52, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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In the episode 9 summary, please change "Temple locates a severely injured Cage" to "Cage locates Temple" as it is Cage who finds Temple when he flees in a police car after fighting off two policemen.
Mohitk2908 ( talk) 17:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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For episode 9 summary, please add "The experiment is unsuccessful and Cage experiences cardiac distress and then, apparently, dies." after the current summary as it is not complete.
Mohitk2908 ( talk) 17:26, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
JesseRafe has been removing cast members, seemingly arbitrary, from the cast list, citing WP:CAST (that isn't a thing, so please clarify what you meant). Local consensus for the MCU articles, in order to best classify non-starring actors and characters, has decided that 4 or more appearances in a series constitutes "Recurring" status, with any other named actors appearing 2-3 or notably in 1 appearance in the "Guest" section (including actors reprising roles from previous MCU media). That is the rationale for how all the characters seen here were included. And as I stated, it seems that JesseRafe is just arbitrarily removing actors, even with the hidden notes included to inform editors criteria for these sections. Please explain why you were removing only certain actors that fit the criteria of inclusion. If it is a matter of the list being "too big", we can have a discussion about potentially splitting the characters to a List of characters article, though that is generally something done once a second season has been ordered. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:31, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
"It" is a pronoun. Pronouns are capitalized in titles. Generally the things that are not capitalized are articles, conjunctions, and prepositions. "It" is none of those. Also, the official Netflix title card has the episode named "Take It Personal". Really, there is no reason for this to even be a Talk Section, and there is almost no case for "It" to be lowercase (save for the generic rule of thumb of some style guidelines that say words under 3/4/5 letters can be lowercase, but even then those rules have caveats for words like, "it", "be", "are", "was", etc.). - Uncleben85 ( talk) 15:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Hasn't anybody noticed yet that all titles of the episodes are GangStarr songs? I think it is worth mentioning
-- Kontemarlos ( talk) 16:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)