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Did you know... that Ludwig Zottmayr, who created the role of King Marke in Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, was not the composer's first choice?
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"created the role"
I'm guessing from context that "created the role" actually has nothing to do with creating the role, but instead is some kind of specialized opera jargon that just means "first performed the role"?
Tristan and Isolde is an old story that has traditionally featured the character of King Mark. Zottmayr didn't create King Mark. Even in the context of Wagner's opera, it was Wagner who created all the characters (based on the traditional tale), not Zottmayr.
So if this is just supposed to reflect some very field-specific lingo that does not match common usage of the words, perhaps we could have some clarification or explanation of that.
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A fact from Ludwig Zottmayr appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 January 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Ludwig Zottmayr, who created the role of King Marke in Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, was not the composer's first choice?
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"created the role"
I'm guessing from context that "created the role" actually has nothing to do with creating the role, but instead is some kind of specialized opera jargon that just means "first performed the role"?
Tristan and Isolde is an old story that has traditionally featured the character of King Mark. Zottmayr didn't create King Mark. Even in the context of Wagner's opera, it was Wagner who created all the characters (based on the traditional tale), not Zottmayr.
So if this is just supposed to reflect some very field-specific lingo that does not match common usage of the words, perhaps we could have some clarification or explanation of that.
108.51.137.137 (
talk)
12:07, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply