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Thanks for the work on this article, but it needs more content not less. Indeed some primary sources need to be matched with secondary/modern sources, but that is no reason for removing them. The See also section points to relevant articles which don't point back (yet). I don't think it should be removed. I would appreciate if you write your toughs and suggestions here before making major changes. Out of courtesy, it is always recommended to notify article creators and/or major contributors before major changes. Thanks and regards. -- Codrin.B ( talk) 22:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for so much for taking the time to add all this detail. I think to cover most of the important points and I fully agree with all of them. Indeed there is no "Dacian-type" gladiator that I know of and I am sure there were others in this Ludus. Also I am not aware of correlation between Thraex gladiator and the Dacian gladiators, even though there are many Dacian-Thracian connections and they shared some of the weapons and warfare technologies. But I am very interested to learn more about this. Regarding sources, the article at dracones.ro is really great and was planning to use it to investigate further. Unfortunately is in Romanian but you could use Google Translate to get most the info. Among other things it talks about Ludus Dacicus being in region II or III, about Forma Urbis Romae and five gladiator schools: Ludus Magnus, Ludus Gallicus, Ludus Matutinus, Ludus Aemilius and Ludus Dacicus. It also makes reference to Samuel Ball Platner, 1929, A Topographical Dictionary of Ancient Rome and a number of other sources which I was planning to investigate.
The paper from Elisabeth Bouley that you added looks great and if you can read French (mine is getting rusty), I certainly invite you to contribute from it. At the first look in Elisabeth Bouley's paper, she seems to note that Dacians volunteered for gladiator games in Tomis and Salona. I read that in other sources as well, but need to find them (ideally in English).
Regarding the primary sources, I was planning to double those statements with citations from secondary/modern sources like I always do. I think they are relevant for the subject as Dacians seem to have been involved in gladiatorial games before this ludus was created.
I am certainly looking forward to collaborate and add all available knowledge about this topic.-- Codrin.B ( talk) 15:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Great. Dracones.ro by itself is not WP:RS but points to sources which are. I wouldn't cite from it but most of the articles I've see are well documented and with sources. Sot it does well as an external link. I just added an interesting external source from Stanford Digital Forma Urbis Romae Project. I'll do my best to read Bouley's work and refresh my French ;-) -- Codrin.B ( talk) 16:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the work on this article, but it needs more content not less. Indeed some primary sources need to be matched with secondary/modern sources, but that is no reason for removing them. The See also section points to relevant articles which don't point back (yet). I don't think it should be removed. I would appreciate if you write your toughs and suggestions here before making major changes. Out of courtesy, it is always recommended to notify article creators and/or major contributors before major changes. Thanks and regards. -- Codrin.B ( talk) 22:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for so much for taking the time to add all this detail. I think to cover most of the important points and I fully agree with all of them. Indeed there is no "Dacian-type" gladiator that I know of and I am sure there were others in this Ludus. Also I am not aware of correlation between Thraex gladiator and the Dacian gladiators, even though there are many Dacian-Thracian connections and they shared some of the weapons and warfare technologies. But I am very interested to learn more about this. Regarding sources, the article at dracones.ro is really great and was planning to use it to investigate further. Unfortunately is in Romanian but you could use Google Translate to get most the info. Among other things it talks about Ludus Dacicus being in region II or III, about Forma Urbis Romae and five gladiator schools: Ludus Magnus, Ludus Gallicus, Ludus Matutinus, Ludus Aemilius and Ludus Dacicus. It also makes reference to Samuel Ball Platner, 1929, A Topographical Dictionary of Ancient Rome and a number of other sources which I was planning to investigate.
The paper from Elisabeth Bouley that you added looks great and if you can read French (mine is getting rusty), I certainly invite you to contribute from it. At the first look in Elisabeth Bouley's paper, she seems to note that Dacians volunteered for gladiator games in Tomis and Salona. I read that in other sources as well, but need to find them (ideally in English).
Regarding the primary sources, I was planning to double those statements with citations from secondary/modern sources like I always do. I think they are relevant for the subject as Dacians seem to have been involved in gladiatorial games before this ludus was created.
I am certainly looking forward to collaborate and add all available knowledge about this topic.-- Codrin.B ( talk) 15:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Great. Dracones.ro by itself is not WP:RS but points to sources which are. I wouldn't cite from it but most of the articles I've see are well documented and with sources. Sot it does well as an external link. I just added an interesting external source from Stanford Digital Forma Urbis Romae Project. I'll do my best to read Bouley's work and refresh my French ;-) -- Codrin.B ( talk) 16:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)