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the new unfinished novel by David Foster Wallace
This asymmetry was just one more thing that compromised Sylvanshine’s self-regard since Rome and made him doubly loyal and grateful to Systems Director Lehrl for having salvaged him from the debris of the catastrophe in Rome and believing in his potential once his niche as a cog in the system was found. The double-entry method invented by Italian Pacioli during the same period as C. Columbus et alia. The card indicated that this was the type of aircraft whose emergency oxygen was a fire-extinguisherish thing beneath the seats rather than dropping from overhead. The primitive opacity of the figures’ faces was actually scarier than fear or some kind of visible expression would have been. -- Wallace, David Foster (2011). The Pale King (Kindle Locations 138-143). Little, Brown and Company. Kindle Edition.
Can there be some sort of "appearances in pop culture" about this? -- Charlie (Charles Jeffrey Danoff 03:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC))
Pacioli made an important contribution to the development of modern accounting, but he did not "found" accounting. The lede probably could be improved; the second sentence seems a bit out of sequence. - Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 16:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
@ 115ash: Let's have a discussion here before any more reverts. Luca Pacioli is not the "founder" of accounting; Webster's defines "to found" as "to take the first steps in building," and Luca Pacioli did not take the first steps in developing modern accounting. He is significant because he was the first person to write down what others were already doing, thus helping to standardize and disseminate best practices that were developed by others. He was emphatically not the first person to practice accounting, and to call him the "founder of accounting" is misinformation.
If you don't like the current phrasing, then please propose something here where it can be discussed. - Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 12:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
How much from the content of Pacioli's works can be attributed to predecessors like Fibonaci?-- 82.137.13.229 ( talk) 15:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Mr. Guye: Please read on past the lede and into the article; Luca Pacioli is not the originator of accounting. He contributed no original ideas of any sort to the field of accounting; rather, his contribution was to document the accounting practices that were current among merchants in his region in the textbook he wrote, which became sufficiently influential that his codification of then-standard northern Italian accounting practices spread and became standard practice across Europe and beyond. The word "seminal" is defined as "containing or contributing the seeds of later development; as 'a seminal book'." His textbook, Summa de arithmetica, is exactly that: a seminal book in the history of accounting. It seems to me an excellent word to summarize his significance to the field: he "sowed the seeds" that grew into the standard practices of modern double-entry accounting. This description is not peacock language but an accurate summary of what has been written about his role in the history of the field (as the lede likewise says, Pacioli is frequently described in print as the "father of modern accounting," surely a more grandiose title than "seminal contributor"; I was already exercising restraint). If you would like to propose another adjective or descriptor and explain why you find it preferable, then let's discuss it here.- Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 03:13, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Regards from Touhou Project fandom. There is a fictional character named Patchouli Knowledge in our series. Wears rather similar clothing. Has rather similar speciality. Doesn't have "patchouli" flowers at all. Google says approx. 8 810 000 results can be found upon looking up that "Patchouli Knowledge" character, e.g. not obscure. Профессор кислых щей ( talk) 14:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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the new unfinished novel by David Foster Wallace
This asymmetry was just one more thing that compromised Sylvanshine’s self-regard since Rome and made him doubly loyal and grateful to Systems Director Lehrl for having salvaged him from the debris of the catastrophe in Rome and believing in his potential once his niche as a cog in the system was found. The double-entry method invented by Italian Pacioli during the same period as C. Columbus et alia. The card indicated that this was the type of aircraft whose emergency oxygen was a fire-extinguisherish thing beneath the seats rather than dropping from overhead. The primitive opacity of the figures’ faces was actually scarier than fear or some kind of visible expression would have been. -- Wallace, David Foster (2011). The Pale King (Kindle Locations 138-143). Little, Brown and Company. Kindle Edition.
Can there be some sort of "appearances in pop culture" about this? -- Charlie (Charles Jeffrey Danoff 03:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC))
Pacioli made an important contribution to the development of modern accounting, but he did not "found" accounting. The lede probably could be improved; the second sentence seems a bit out of sequence. - Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 16:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
@ 115ash: Let's have a discussion here before any more reverts. Luca Pacioli is not the "founder" of accounting; Webster's defines "to found" as "to take the first steps in building," and Luca Pacioli did not take the first steps in developing modern accounting. He is significant because he was the first person to write down what others were already doing, thus helping to standardize and disseminate best practices that were developed by others. He was emphatically not the first person to practice accounting, and to call him the "founder of accounting" is misinformation.
If you don't like the current phrasing, then please propose something here where it can be discussed. - Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 12:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
How much from the content of Pacioli's works can be attributed to predecessors like Fibonaci?-- 82.137.13.229 ( talk) 15:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Mr. Guye: Please read on past the lede and into the article; Luca Pacioli is not the originator of accounting. He contributed no original ideas of any sort to the field of accounting; rather, his contribution was to document the accounting practices that were current among merchants in his region in the textbook he wrote, which became sufficiently influential that his codification of then-standard northern Italian accounting practices spread and became standard practice across Europe and beyond. The word "seminal" is defined as "containing or contributing the seeds of later development; as 'a seminal book'." His textbook, Summa de arithmetica, is exactly that: a seminal book in the history of accounting. It seems to me an excellent word to summarize his significance to the field: he "sowed the seeds" that grew into the standard practices of modern double-entry accounting. This description is not peacock language but an accurate summary of what has been written about his role in the history of the field (as the lede likewise says, Pacioli is frequently described in print as the "father of modern accounting," surely a more grandiose title than "seminal contributor"; I was already exercising restraint). If you would like to propose another adjective or descriptor and explain why you find it preferable, then let's discuss it here.- Bryanrutherford0 ( talk) 03:13, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Regards from Touhou Project fandom. There is a fictional character named Patchouli Knowledge in our series. Wears rather similar clothing. Has rather similar speciality. Doesn't have "patchouli" flowers at all. Google says approx. 8 810 000 results can be found upon looking up that "Patchouli Knowledge" character, e.g. not obscure. Профессор кислых щей ( talk) 14:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)