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The first world problems entry is removed as original research, yet this stays? Delete, Delete, Delete.
I think the gallery should be romoved. Wikipedia isn't a gallery for tramp stamps. One or two pictures would suffice. 129.120.244.58 01:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the gallery. There are already two pictures in the article itself.
Isquitenice
19:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
why is it that its a tramp stamp? what if your not a tramp and just like tattoos there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.16.15 ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 12 November 2006
"Generally, a lower back tattoo will be designed to emphasize the shape and curvature of the female figure." Not in my experience! Most of the ones I've seen (Hundreds, easily, if not thousands) are cookiecutter splats of butterflies, Tao circles, or sonething else that was NEITHER applied NOR designed with the particular young lady's physique in mind. The ones the author of the above sentence are thinking of are expensive, require custom work, and can't just be slapped on there on an evening's lark with one's clone friends. 68.123.46.53 17:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
In German they are called "ass antlers"!! haha!
The term "tramp Stamp" is know worldwide now as the term for women who degrade their lower back area with a tattoo. The council of the American Medical Association had decided that this term is common with females. There are medical considerations that are not typical when a woman is need of surgery. The ink can cause infection and deters specific medical treatment to those with this type of tattoo, based on its location on the body.
Most men know that if a woman has a tattoo of this kind, that they are somewhat "easy" and not very educated. When a woman decides to get a tattoo, they want to bring instant notification to the public that they have a special mark upon their body and this is a turn off for men. So if women are going to get this type of tattoo, they need to understand that they will be judged by the tattoo and area of the marking.
"During the Game Design Challenge at the Game Developer's Conference in 2006, Gears of War designer Cliff Bleszinski publicly referred to lower back tattoos on women as 'tramp stamps.'"
I'm sure many more famous people have uttered "tramp stamps." Why is this guy the one quoted? Seems like insignificant trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.246.125.135 ( talk) 01:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC).
The fact that there are countless people who have suffered no ill-effects is not enough to discredit it. The fact that thousands of people smoke without getting lung cancer does not mean the smoking does not cause cancer. Some specialist (non-popular-press) sources would be good. -- Taejo| 대조 13:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
HALP!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.94.7.33 ( talk) 20:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
This is the reason I hate Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C40E:5610:184:F232:C14D:BFF0 ( talk) 21:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Was it a man or a women who came up with that slang? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.219.134 ( talk) 19:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Didn't this type of tattooing begin as a way for pornographic actresses to identify and copyright their work even when their faces are not visible? Maybe that's an urban legend? -- 98.199.37.31 ( talk) 19:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to start a Wikiproject on Body Modification, if anyone wants to join go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Body_Modification ScarTissueBloodBlister ( talk) 02:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
'..during intimate moments.."? That's a stupid euphemism for sexual intercourse. I hate it as a euphemism because it implies a sense that intimacy only means sex - but what about emotional intimacy apart from or devoid of sex? I also hate that as an aside in this article because it has no relevance whatever to the article. And this is how this tattoo relates to sex, and this is how this tattoo relates to the price of tea in China, and this is how the tattoo relates to UFOs, and this is how the tattoo relates to my grandma and/or all of these things.. DELETING. -- 69.169.131.217 ( talk) 12:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Article on "Tramp Stamps" at Flisted.com, at one point suggests there might be some historical basis for the markings which sounds dubious but if there were corroborating sources for it and other things mentioned they might be used to expand this article.
The citation for ""slag tags", "pull out targets", and other slang terms.[4]" is incorrect. It cites a page that talks about slang terms, but does not mention the quoted terms, or any other terms related to lower back tattoos (or tattoos in general). So unless someone has citations for this these terms should be removed. "pull out targets" especially seems obscure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.55.74.34 ( talk) 17:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
'a target for ejaculate during doggy style intercourse'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.210.63 ( talk) 15:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
"In Australian slang, the term arse antlers may be used." As an Australian, I've never heard this before. Placing here until someone cites a source. -- Super Jamie ( talk) 01:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
The article says, "Although some male celebrities have lower-back tattoos, they are generally not worn by men." That may be true of straight men, but gay men, especially bottoms, are unfortunately all too likely to have tramp stamps. Pais ( talk) 12:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
has anyone done a study asking women with tattoos, and lower-back tattoos in particular, how many sex partners they've had, vs. women of the same age and socioeconomic background and status who are not tattooed, and in particular in that place?
are women with tattoos more likely to smoke and to engage in other risky forms of behavior?
of course the stamp doesn't mean that the girl is a tramp, nor does the stamp make the tramp, but can't it be that just maybe tramps are more likely to get themselves stamped?
and couldn't it also be that men seeing the tramp stamp see it as a target, as advertising of the woman's status as a tramp?
and of course you have to be less shy than many women to show that part of the body.
can we just set said the issue of "fairness" and "stereotyping" some of the time and ask if the just maybe the unfair stereotype is accurate? not for all women, of course.
02:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC) Michael Christian
No men appear here. This article is sexist af. David Beckham's lower back tattoo.
Someones made this claim, using weasel words: "...and are considered erotic by some." I tagged it, there are no reliable sources to base such a claim on, tag stays until someone can cite reliable sources or it maybe removed soon without notice. Honestly, can't even watch an adult video of a woman has such a tatoo, massive turn off, would never date a girl a with such ghastly self inflected dis-figuration. eww. Rowland938 ( talk) 11:40, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Please use this as an invitation as to why you're trying to refactor sourced comments in the article. Good faith is assumed - in that you're trying to establish some kind of gender balance (even if it may look like WP:SOAPBOX and/or WP:GREATWRONG) but in order to do that you need sources to back up your claims. At the moment there is no source or reference to suggest that the male lower back is considered an erotic body part. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 14:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
The reference given for "slag tag" and "target" doesn't mention either (and let's just ignore the thorny problem of opinion columns/blog posts as reputable sources…) I'm wondering if I should just remove the whole reference and replace it with "citation needed"… -- jae ( talk) 23:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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The first world problems entry is removed as original research, yet this stays? Delete, Delete, Delete.
I think the gallery should be romoved. Wikipedia isn't a gallery for tramp stamps. One or two pictures would suffice. 129.120.244.58 01:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the gallery. There are already two pictures in the article itself.
Isquitenice
19:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
why is it that its a tramp stamp? what if your not a tramp and just like tattoos there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.16.15 ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 12 November 2006
"Generally, a lower back tattoo will be designed to emphasize the shape and curvature of the female figure." Not in my experience! Most of the ones I've seen (Hundreds, easily, if not thousands) are cookiecutter splats of butterflies, Tao circles, or sonething else that was NEITHER applied NOR designed with the particular young lady's physique in mind. The ones the author of the above sentence are thinking of are expensive, require custom work, and can't just be slapped on there on an evening's lark with one's clone friends. 68.123.46.53 17:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
In German they are called "ass antlers"!! haha!
The term "tramp Stamp" is know worldwide now as the term for women who degrade their lower back area with a tattoo. The council of the American Medical Association had decided that this term is common with females. There are medical considerations that are not typical when a woman is need of surgery. The ink can cause infection and deters specific medical treatment to those with this type of tattoo, based on its location on the body.
Most men know that if a woman has a tattoo of this kind, that they are somewhat "easy" and not very educated. When a woman decides to get a tattoo, they want to bring instant notification to the public that they have a special mark upon their body and this is a turn off for men. So if women are going to get this type of tattoo, they need to understand that they will be judged by the tattoo and area of the marking.
"During the Game Design Challenge at the Game Developer's Conference in 2006, Gears of War designer Cliff Bleszinski publicly referred to lower back tattoos on women as 'tramp stamps.'"
I'm sure many more famous people have uttered "tramp stamps." Why is this guy the one quoted? Seems like insignificant trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.246.125.135 ( talk) 01:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC).
The fact that there are countless people who have suffered no ill-effects is not enough to discredit it. The fact that thousands of people smoke without getting lung cancer does not mean the smoking does not cause cancer. Some specialist (non-popular-press) sources would be good. -- Taejo| 대조 13:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
HALP!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.94.7.33 ( talk) 20:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
This is the reason I hate Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C40E:5610:184:F232:C14D:BFF0 ( talk) 21:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Was it a man or a women who came up with that slang? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.219.134 ( talk) 19:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Didn't this type of tattooing begin as a way for pornographic actresses to identify and copyright their work even when their faces are not visible? Maybe that's an urban legend? -- 98.199.37.31 ( talk) 19:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to start a Wikiproject on Body Modification, if anyone wants to join go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Body_Modification ScarTissueBloodBlister ( talk) 02:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
'..during intimate moments.."? That's a stupid euphemism for sexual intercourse. I hate it as a euphemism because it implies a sense that intimacy only means sex - but what about emotional intimacy apart from or devoid of sex? I also hate that as an aside in this article because it has no relevance whatever to the article. And this is how this tattoo relates to sex, and this is how this tattoo relates to the price of tea in China, and this is how the tattoo relates to UFOs, and this is how the tattoo relates to my grandma and/or all of these things.. DELETING. -- 69.169.131.217 ( talk) 12:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Article on "Tramp Stamps" at Flisted.com, at one point suggests there might be some historical basis for the markings which sounds dubious but if there were corroborating sources for it and other things mentioned they might be used to expand this article.
The citation for ""slag tags", "pull out targets", and other slang terms.[4]" is incorrect. It cites a page that talks about slang terms, but does not mention the quoted terms, or any other terms related to lower back tattoos (or tattoos in general). So unless someone has citations for this these terms should be removed. "pull out targets" especially seems obscure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.55.74.34 ( talk) 17:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
'a target for ejaculate during doggy style intercourse'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.210.63 ( talk) 15:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
"In Australian slang, the term arse antlers may be used." As an Australian, I've never heard this before. Placing here until someone cites a source. -- Super Jamie ( talk) 01:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
The article says, "Although some male celebrities have lower-back tattoos, they are generally not worn by men." That may be true of straight men, but gay men, especially bottoms, are unfortunately all too likely to have tramp stamps. Pais ( talk) 12:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
has anyone done a study asking women with tattoos, and lower-back tattoos in particular, how many sex partners they've had, vs. women of the same age and socioeconomic background and status who are not tattooed, and in particular in that place?
are women with tattoos more likely to smoke and to engage in other risky forms of behavior?
of course the stamp doesn't mean that the girl is a tramp, nor does the stamp make the tramp, but can't it be that just maybe tramps are more likely to get themselves stamped?
and couldn't it also be that men seeing the tramp stamp see it as a target, as advertising of the woman's status as a tramp?
and of course you have to be less shy than many women to show that part of the body.
can we just set said the issue of "fairness" and "stereotyping" some of the time and ask if the just maybe the unfair stereotype is accurate? not for all women, of course.
02:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC) Michael Christian
No men appear here. This article is sexist af. David Beckham's lower back tattoo.
Someones made this claim, using weasel words: "...and are considered erotic by some." I tagged it, there are no reliable sources to base such a claim on, tag stays until someone can cite reliable sources or it maybe removed soon without notice. Honestly, can't even watch an adult video of a woman has such a tatoo, massive turn off, would never date a girl a with such ghastly self inflected dis-figuration. eww. Rowland938 ( talk) 11:40, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Please use this as an invitation as to why you're trying to refactor sourced comments in the article. Good faith is assumed - in that you're trying to establish some kind of gender balance (even if it may look like WP:SOAPBOX and/or WP:GREATWRONG) but in order to do that you need sources to back up your claims. At the moment there is no source or reference to suggest that the male lower back is considered an erotic body part. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 14:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
The reference given for "slag tag" and "target" doesn't mention either (and let's just ignore the thorny problem of opinion columns/blog posts as reputable sources…) I'm wondering if I should just remove the whole reference and replace it with "citation needed"… -- jae ( talk) 23:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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