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Please discuss controversial issues at the talkpage, thanks. El on ka 19:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I guess "Central Slovakia" could be associated with the Low Tatras at best as the mountain range itself is not densely populated. Squash Racket ( talk) 04:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)The population of the kraj is mostly Slovak, with a small Hungarian minority.
From the article:
The Low Tatras or Low Tatra (Slovak: Nízke Tatry; Hungarian: Alacsony Tátra[1]) is a mountain range in central Slovakia.
So according to WP:NCGN adding the name is completely valid. Squash Racket ( talk) 13:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Two major interior valleys are formed by the Váh and Hron rivers, which flow east to west between the High and Low Tatra ranges.
The population of the kraj is mostly Slovak, with a small Hungarian minority.
Every geographical feature has a traditional Hungarian name in the Carpathian Basin, including rivers, mountain ranges, lakes, peaks. The Hungarian toponymy of Slovakia is essential encyclopaedical content similarly to geographical names in other languages like German and Rusyn. It doesn't matter how many Hungarians live now or in the past in the given area because the names are existing and were in official use in the past. Ancient Latin names in North-Africa are also included in wikipedia although Romans disappeared there 1500 years ago. In this case the name is still widely used in Hungarian literature and parlance. You are disputing the most basic rules of wikipedia right now. Zello ( talk) 13:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I am extremely concerned by any edit war that involves the deletion of reliable sources. Please work this out at talk, thanks. -- El on ka 19:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no source in the world that would prove the "relevance" of a Hungarian name for you... Zello ( talk) 15:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The sources were presented. In 1910 5 % of the population of Liptov were Hungarian. On the other side of mountain range, Gömör the percentage was much higher, above 50 %. What else? But even this is irrelevant. Alacsony Tátra was the former official name of the mountain before 1918. There is no reason to hide this important information from the reader. Zello ( talk) 17:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Surfing on the slovak wiki or any slovak Tatry-associated websites, it's unlikely not to be given an impression that Slovaks mistakenly take whole and entire Tatra range for Vysoke Tatry only. In other words, for Slovaks Tatry=Vysoke Tatry, as if the Zapadne Tatry and Belianske Tatry didn't exist at all. Maybe that's because of the name of the city which lies at the foot of Vysoke Tatry, called Vysoke Tatry (city) as well. The other probable cause might be the existance of totally separate and different mountain range, situated about 40 km south of Tatras, called Nizke Tatry (Low Tatras). As far as I'm concerned, they were originally named Niżnie Tatry, which could be translated into Southern Tatras. The error occured when non-slovak and non-polish cartographists (austro-hungarian) notoriously mistaken original slavic names for geographical objects. And so we had e.g. Velky Tatransky Krivan instead of Velky FATRANSKY Krivan, etc. It's for all to see on the old maps available on the internet.
This issue is being quite problematic, because whilst someone looks for an accomodation in Vysoke Tatry, a given slovak website shows him the search outcome in which there is e.g. Liptovsky Mikulas (which lies under Zapadne, not Vysoke Tatry) as well, etc.
Summa summarum, Slovaks cannot simply distinguish their greatest national treasure being all those amazingly beautiful carpathian subranges, a pearl of which being Tatry. Now this is quite sad, because a major part of that beautiful country is mountainous, so theoretically, you could expect the inhabitants to be fully aware of what is what and which range is which. Best regards to Slovaks. Please shift your conciousness in those terms. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.12.91.242 ( talk) 11:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
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Please discuss controversial issues at the talkpage, thanks. El on ka 19:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I guess "Central Slovakia" could be associated with the Low Tatras at best as the mountain range itself is not densely populated. Squash Racket ( talk) 04:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)The population of the kraj is mostly Slovak, with a small Hungarian minority.
From the article:
The Low Tatras or Low Tatra (Slovak: Nízke Tatry; Hungarian: Alacsony Tátra[1]) is a mountain range in central Slovakia.
So according to WP:NCGN adding the name is completely valid. Squash Racket ( talk) 13:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Two major interior valleys are formed by the Váh and Hron rivers, which flow east to west between the High and Low Tatra ranges.
The population of the kraj is mostly Slovak, with a small Hungarian minority.
Every geographical feature has a traditional Hungarian name in the Carpathian Basin, including rivers, mountain ranges, lakes, peaks. The Hungarian toponymy of Slovakia is essential encyclopaedical content similarly to geographical names in other languages like German and Rusyn. It doesn't matter how many Hungarians live now or in the past in the given area because the names are existing and were in official use in the past. Ancient Latin names in North-Africa are also included in wikipedia although Romans disappeared there 1500 years ago. In this case the name is still widely used in Hungarian literature and parlance. You are disputing the most basic rules of wikipedia right now. Zello ( talk) 13:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I am extremely concerned by any edit war that involves the deletion of reliable sources. Please work this out at talk, thanks. -- El on ka 19:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no source in the world that would prove the "relevance" of a Hungarian name for you... Zello ( talk) 15:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The sources were presented. In 1910 5 % of the population of Liptov were Hungarian. On the other side of mountain range, Gömör the percentage was much higher, above 50 %. What else? But even this is irrelevant. Alacsony Tátra was the former official name of the mountain before 1918. There is no reason to hide this important information from the reader. Zello ( talk) 17:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Surfing on the slovak wiki or any slovak Tatry-associated websites, it's unlikely not to be given an impression that Slovaks mistakenly take whole and entire Tatra range for Vysoke Tatry only. In other words, for Slovaks Tatry=Vysoke Tatry, as if the Zapadne Tatry and Belianske Tatry didn't exist at all. Maybe that's because of the name of the city which lies at the foot of Vysoke Tatry, called Vysoke Tatry (city) as well. The other probable cause might be the existance of totally separate and different mountain range, situated about 40 km south of Tatras, called Nizke Tatry (Low Tatras). As far as I'm concerned, they were originally named Niżnie Tatry, which could be translated into Southern Tatras. The error occured when non-slovak and non-polish cartographists (austro-hungarian) notoriously mistaken original slavic names for geographical objects. And so we had e.g. Velky Tatransky Krivan instead of Velky FATRANSKY Krivan, etc. It's for all to see on the old maps available on the internet.
This issue is being quite problematic, because whilst someone looks for an accomodation in Vysoke Tatry, a given slovak website shows him the search outcome in which there is e.g. Liptovsky Mikulas (which lies under Zapadne, not Vysoke Tatry) as well, etc.
Summa summarum, Slovaks cannot simply distinguish their greatest national treasure being all those amazingly beautiful carpathian subranges, a pearl of which being Tatry. Now this is quite sad, because a major part of that beautiful country is mountainous, so theoretically, you could expect the inhabitants to be fully aware of what is what and which range is which. Best regards to Slovaks. Please shift your conciousness in those terms. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.12.91.242 ( talk) 11:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
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