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I just would like to point out the possible origin of the chosen name for this attack system, 'Low Orbit Ion Cannon'. There was this meme when someone posts a slightly to a very chubby female. In this meme, there's a picture of a harpoon, and the caption says, "The harpoons, man them". Subsequent related memes escalate the tool needed, such as from a giant earth digging machine to a harpoon missile from a cruise ship to a nuclear strike, and eventually leading to "(when all else fails) fire the low orbit ion cannon onto the whale". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psionic Fighter ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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The 'Notable Uses' section has wording that seems less than neutral... I'm not anti-anon or pro-anon or anything however, it reads more like a guide on how to use LOIC than an wiki article explaining what it is. - 71.195.12.111 ( talk) 19:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
"LOIC was utilized by Project Chanology, a project by the Anonymous group, to attack websites from the Church of Scientology,[9]" I read that article, Hackers Hit Scientology With Online Attack By Robert McMillan, and didn't find any assertion that LOIC was the tool used to ddos the Church of Scientology website. Perhaps another reference source can be found to substantiate the claim. Cheers ArishiaNishi ( talk) 16:08, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Isn't LOIC public domain? Why does the picture say it is from copyrighted software? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.66.226 ( talk) 02:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I think the hivemind is an un-official LOIC version, so better change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.94.244.195 ( talk • contribs)
I think it is worth pointing out that, on its own, LOIC is a DoS program, not a DDoS program. LOIC has been used in DDoS attacks, but only because groups of willing participants colluded to attack the same domain at the same time. Implying that LOIC is a DDoS system on its own could be interpreted to mean something similar to a botnet, where multiple computers are compromised in order to execute a DDoS attack, usually via viruses or trojans. In the case of LOIC, the target is user defined, and the program must be invoked as an administrator in the first place. Human communication via the internet is what caused LOIC to be used in a distributed fashion. 174.0.118.76 ( talk) 05:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)bitbytethecompsciguy
Could someone who knows add a section explaining *why* a piece of DDoS software is named after a space-weapon? I'm sure it's a reference to a particular game or sci-fi universe but other than that it appears as a random choice. Witty Lama 22:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
There's a C++/QT port of Loic called "LOIQ" available on Sourceforge here: [1] . Does not support "Hivemode" yet but should be mentioned as it is a truly compatible linux variant. Disclaimer: I have not tested this.
Under PythonLOIC it states there are versions for ALL platforms. This wording is a bit misleading as it's simply not true. A better word would be "many" or even possibly "most" instead of "all". There is no version for gaming consoles, Web OS, or Symbian to name a few. Also in the small list of platforms given it makes it seem that "iPhone OS" (which is no longer the correct name) and iPod Touch are separate platforms which they aren't. They both are part of the "iOS" platform that also includes the iPad. I realize these mistakes are also on the source page, but that doesn't make them correct. -- Rlsaine ( talk) 05:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Might be interesting to add something about if using this program is actually legal? Anorionil ( talk) 15:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
compatability -> compatibility -- 134.130.183.101 ( talk) 23:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
==Proposed change LOIC to LOWC to avoid ambiguity with BEAR Ion Cannon. It is not an Ion beam it is a DDOS-attack.
http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/ can't be referenced as the official web site:
Any information concerning NewEraCracker LOIC should be moved to another article. Or SourceForge version should be mentioned in the current article on an equality. I will do it soon if will not get any response from stakeholders. Abatishchev ( talk) 10:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
This wikipage says: Countermeasures
Security experts quoted by the BBC indicated that well-written firewall rules can filter out most traffic from DDoS attacks by LOIC, thus preventing the attacks from being fully effective.[9]
But if I read the source, there is only a "some suggest". It's not clear in the BBC article that it involves Security Experts nor that it's a certain fact.
BBC article:
Criminal chain
Defences against the attacks are being drawn up as security firms scrutinise the code behind LOIC to work out how attacks happen. Some suggest that well-written firewall rules would be able to filter out most of the harmful traffic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.244.33.47 ( talk) 16:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Stallman warns would-be hackers not to download the LOIC software being pushed as a method of expressing anger with sites that have acted against Wikileaks [...] because the tool's code is not visible to the user. [...] "if users can't recompile it, users should not trust it." [8] What makes him say that? The source is available. Doesn't it compile?-- 92.78.97.159 ( talk) 13:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I found this sentence at the end of this article, last sentence. "On the other hand, experts agree that if you're not a total dumbass, you'd use LOIC from a coffee shop, and thus be behind someone else's IP." I think we could all agree that this sentence is using a type of language that is inappropriate for Wikipedia (For example: the tone and the use of the word, dumbass). Could this sentence possibly be revised or rectified such that it's in a quotation, if there is indeed such a similar quotation in the article that it cites? Thanks. - Jsybird2532 ( talk) 6:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
The article states that LOIC uses TCP and UDP packets and HTTP requests to DoS. Technically, HTTP relies most commonly upon TCP. The article should decide upon a level of abstraction and stick to it; why mention its choice of application protocol when discussing its method of data delivery?
LOIC article is not a place for PythonLOIC or any other, non-C# versions. Create a new, separate article for any of them and add a link. -- Abatishchev ( talk) 16:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Ever since FOX News scrapped together a report about some kid who gave his password out like it was candy only to have his myspace page appropriately vandalized and a group of anti-scientology protesters hi-jacked a meme, there are all these stories about "Anonymous". This "group" does not exist. It really doesn't. There are no members, there is no leadership, there are no gathering places, and there is no group. Hey look, my IP. 126.209.106.245 ( talk) 16:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Low Orbit Ion Cannon. Favonian ( talk) 23:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
LOIC → Low Orbit Ion Cannon – This is the full name of the program. The article for, say, Team Fortress 2, isn't just called TF2, even though almost everyone on the Internet knows what you mean when you say it. flarn2006 [ u t c] time: 06:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
The file File:LoicNewEraCracker.png, used on this page, has been deleted from Wikimedia Commons and re-uploaded at File:LoicNewEraCracker.png. It should be reviewed to determine if it is compliant with this project's non-free content policy, or else should be deleted and removed from this page. Commons fair use upload bot ( talk) 19:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The statements in this make it sound like a company developed LOIC for legitimate uses. From what I have seen, I do not believe that is the case. I think "Praetox Technologies" is just the alias of a single person. ( http://ptech.50webs.com/index.html) I suspect he wrote LOIC specifically for those on 4chan since when he declared it public he categorized it under "chan". ( http://web.archive.org/web/20100921205654/http://praetox.com/n.php/sw/sauce)
Lastly, Praetox has disappeared with only a few vague comments such as " I probably won't update this site ever again; you don't need to be a genius to guess why." Since this is not the place for original research we either need better sources or we need to update the article to address the lack of definitive information.
TXAggie ( talk) 23:14, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Is it notable that the name refers to Command & Conquer? Magic9mushroom ( talk) 13:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I think they should be a section that lists the derivative works made by others
it could read something like this
LOIC++ a version made to run on linux
JS LOIC a version made in javascript that allows dos attacks to be made from a web browser
LOWC (LOW ORBITAL WEB CANNON) allows dos attacks to be made from a web browser
JAVA LOIC a version programmed in JAVA that is OS independent.
that way when the article is read you would not have the all the derivative works spread around the main page of the article.
then the article would be simpler to navigate.
Thank you for your time FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 01:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
REPLY
Sorry for the long reply But I have to agree with you about having a reliable source. and there are reliable resources from well reputed corporations. but sadly they are copyrighted and thus cannot be used by Wikipedia
I have yet to find one that is freely licensed FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 18:33, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
It looks like the original site is down. Seems that there is a link to SourceForge, but this does not mean it is the original site. This link should be deleted since there is no proof that this is the original site. And replaced by a link that states where the files may be found. FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 15:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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I remember using Low Orbit Ion Cannon from 4chan in some range 2008-2010.
The dating is strange, and I have seen no other mention of this dating that far back. If anyone takes extreme interest, I have old harddrives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TangleUSB ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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I just would like to point out the possible origin of the chosen name for this attack system, 'Low Orbit Ion Cannon'. There was this meme when someone posts a slightly to a very chubby female. In this meme, there's a picture of a harpoon, and the caption says, "The harpoons, man them". Subsequent related memes escalate the tool needed, such as from a giant earth digging machine to a harpoon missile from a cruise ship to a nuclear strike, and eventually leading to "(when all else fails) fire the low orbit ion cannon onto the whale". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psionic Fighter ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 October 2018 and 12 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jlfriedman4.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 02:54, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The 'Notable Uses' section has wording that seems less than neutral... I'm not anti-anon or pro-anon or anything however, it reads more like a guide on how to use LOIC than an wiki article explaining what it is. - 71.195.12.111 ( talk) 19:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
"LOIC was utilized by Project Chanology, a project by the Anonymous group, to attack websites from the Church of Scientology,[9]" I read that article, Hackers Hit Scientology With Online Attack By Robert McMillan, and didn't find any assertion that LOIC was the tool used to ddos the Church of Scientology website. Perhaps another reference source can be found to substantiate the claim. Cheers ArishiaNishi ( talk) 16:08, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Isn't LOIC public domain? Why does the picture say it is from copyrighted software? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.66.226 ( talk) 02:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I think the hivemind is an un-official LOIC version, so better change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.94.244.195 ( talk • contribs)
I think it is worth pointing out that, on its own, LOIC is a DoS program, not a DDoS program. LOIC has been used in DDoS attacks, but only because groups of willing participants colluded to attack the same domain at the same time. Implying that LOIC is a DDoS system on its own could be interpreted to mean something similar to a botnet, where multiple computers are compromised in order to execute a DDoS attack, usually via viruses or trojans. In the case of LOIC, the target is user defined, and the program must be invoked as an administrator in the first place. Human communication via the internet is what caused LOIC to be used in a distributed fashion. 174.0.118.76 ( talk) 05:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)bitbytethecompsciguy
Could someone who knows add a section explaining *why* a piece of DDoS software is named after a space-weapon? I'm sure it's a reference to a particular game or sci-fi universe but other than that it appears as a random choice. Witty Lama 22:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
There's a C++/QT port of Loic called "LOIQ" available on Sourceforge here: [1] . Does not support "Hivemode" yet but should be mentioned as it is a truly compatible linux variant. Disclaimer: I have not tested this.
Under PythonLOIC it states there are versions for ALL platforms. This wording is a bit misleading as it's simply not true. A better word would be "many" or even possibly "most" instead of "all". There is no version for gaming consoles, Web OS, or Symbian to name a few. Also in the small list of platforms given it makes it seem that "iPhone OS" (which is no longer the correct name) and iPod Touch are separate platforms which they aren't. They both are part of the "iOS" platform that also includes the iPad. I realize these mistakes are also on the source page, but that doesn't make them correct. -- Rlsaine ( talk) 05:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Might be interesting to add something about if using this program is actually legal? Anorionil ( talk) 15:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
compatability -> compatibility -- 134.130.183.101 ( talk) 23:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
==Proposed change LOIC to LOWC to avoid ambiguity with BEAR Ion Cannon. It is not an Ion beam it is a DDOS-attack.
http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/ can't be referenced as the official web site:
Any information concerning NewEraCracker LOIC should be moved to another article. Or SourceForge version should be mentioned in the current article on an equality. I will do it soon if will not get any response from stakeholders. Abatishchev ( talk) 10:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
This wikipage says: Countermeasures
Security experts quoted by the BBC indicated that well-written firewall rules can filter out most traffic from DDoS attacks by LOIC, thus preventing the attacks from being fully effective.[9]
But if I read the source, there is only a "some suggest". It's not clear in the BBC article that it involves Security Experts nor that it's a certain fact.
BBC article:
Criminal chain
Defences against the attacks are being drawn up as security firms scrutinise the code behind LOIC to work out how attacks happen. Some suggest that well-written firewall rules would be able to filter out most of the harmful traffic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.244.33.47 ( talk) 16:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Stallman warns would-be hackers not to download the LOIC software being pushed as a method of expressing anger with sites that have acted against Wikileaks [...] because the tool's code is not visible to the user. [...] "if users can't recompile it, users should not trust it." [8] What makes him say that? The source is available. Doesn't it compile?-- 92.78.97.159 ( talk) 13:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I found this sentence at the end of this article, last sentence. "On the other hand, experts agree that if you're not a total dumbass, you'd use LOIC from a coffee shop, and thus be behind someone else's IP." I think we could all agree that this sentence is using a type of language that is inappropriate for Wikipedia (For example: the tone and the use of the word, dumbass). Could this sentence possibly be revised or rectified such that it's in a quotation, if there is indeed such a similar quotation in the article that it cites? Thanks. - Jsybird2532 ( talk) 6:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
The article states that LOIC uses TCP and UDP packets and HTTP requests to DoS. Technically, HTTP relies most commonly upon TCP. The article should decide upon a level of abstraction and stick to it; why mention its choice of application protocol when discussing its method of data delivery?
LOIC article is not a place for PythonLOIC or any other, non-C# versions. Create a new, separate article for any of them and add a link. -- Abatishchev ( talk) 16:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Ever since FOX News scrapped together a report about some kid who gave his password out like it was candy only to have his myspace page appropriately vandalized and a group of anti-scientology protesters hi-jacked a meme, there are all these stories about "Anonymous". This "group" does not exist. It really doesn't. There are no members, there is no leadership, there are no gathering places, and there is no group. Hey look, my IP. 126.209.106.245 ( talk) 16:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Low Orbit Ion Cannon. Favonian ( talk) 23:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
LOIC → Low Orbit Ion Cannon – This is the full name of the program. The article for, say, Team Fortress 2, isn't just called TF2, even though almost everyone on the Internet knows what you mean when you say it. flarn2006 [ u t c] time: 06:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
The file File:LoicNewEraCracker.png, used on this page, has been deleted from Wikimedia Commons and re-uploaded at File:LoicNewEraCracker.png. It should be reviewed to determine if it is compliant with this project's non-free content policy, or else should be deleted and removed from this page. Commons fair use upload bot ( talk) 19:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The statements in this make it sound like a company developed LOIC for legitimate uses. From what I have seen, I do not believe that is the case. I think "Praetox Technologies" is just the alias of a single person. ( http://ptech.50webs.com/index.html) I suspect he wrote LOIC specifically for those on 4chan since when he declared it public he categorized it under "chan". ( http://web.archive.org/web/20100921205654/http://praetox.com/n.php/sw/sauce)
Lastly, Praetox has disappeared with only a few vague comments such as " I probably won't update this site ever again; you don't need to be a genius to guess why." Since this is not the place for original research we either need better sources or we need to update the article to address the lack of definitive information.
TXAggie ( talk) 23:14, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Is it notable that the name refers to Command & Conquer? Magic9mushroom ( talk) 13:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I think they should be a section that lists the derivative works made by others
it could read something like this
LOIC++ a version made to run on linux
JS LOIC a version made in javascript that allows dos attacks to be made from a web browser
LOWC (LOW ORBITAL WEB CANNON) allows dos attacks to be made from a web browser
JAVA LOIC a version programmed in JAVA that is OS independent.
that way when the article is read you would not have the all the derivative works spread around the main page of the article.
then the article would be simpler to navigate.
Thank you for your time FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 01:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
REPLY
Sorry for the long reply But I have to agree with you about having a reliable source. and there are reliable resources from well reputed corporations. but sadly they are copyrighted and thus cannot be used by Wikipedia
I have yet to find one that is freely licensed FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 18:33, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
It looks like the original site is down. Seems that there is a link to SourceForge, but this does not mean it is the original site. This link should be deleted since there is no proof that this is the original site. And replaced by a link that states where the files may be found. FockeWulf FW 190 ( talk) 15:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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I remember using Low Orbit Ion Cannon from 4chan in some range 2008-2010.
The dating is strange, and I have seen no other mention of this dating that far back. If anyone takes extreme interest, I have old harddrives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TangleUSB ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 1 June 2019 (UTC)