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The article currently says the frame was plugged in to power electrical lights in the frame. But in videos of the event there's no sign of a cord coming out of the frame, nor of any kind of electrical connection when people remove the artwork (including frame) and carry it away. (There's also no sign at any time of lights in the frame, though they could have been turned off.) There's no citation for the frame being plugged in, though there is a "[citation needed]". Should the statement be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DKMell ( talk • contribs) 19:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
This artwork is discussed in detail at Banksy#Balloon_Girl_shredding, Balloon Girl, and here. Is this appropriate? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Should we removed Category:Vandalized works of art in the United Kingdom? The artwork wasn't exactly vandalized since the shredding was executed on purpose by the artist. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
The Sotheby's site says it was given away shortly after Barely Legal in 2006, but it's unclear whether or not it was actually in that exhibition. I couldn't find any source directly about it being exhibited in 2006, or at any time before 2018.-- Pharos ( talk) 20:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
I reverted your deletion - look at the video at 0'11" - a test sheet of black paper is clearly cut by the circular blades, four strips (white on the back side) have gone around the roller... Greetings, -- Janke | Talk 15:41, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Is Love is in the Bin or Love Is in the Bin more appropriate? We have the artwork's official name vs. WP's manual of style. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:54, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Multiple reliable sources differ considerably on the 14 October 2021 sales price:
I believe the BBC source is a typo or misinformation. They also say "The sale... beats the previous record of £16.8m set for Banksy in March." .. How can £16.0m million "beat" £16.8m? It makes no sense. This article is not reliable. The majority say £18.6m however I believe this is a stylistic rounding so they write a clean "£18.6 million". Sotheby's itself reported £18,582,000 which is the most reliable figure. Even the Sotheby's article first states £18.6 million than gives the precise figure further down. -- Green C 01:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
@ GreenC replying here as put in changelog. Really have to disagree with the continued inclusion of the speculation section in this article as it is completely non-encyclopaedic information that is not noteworthy in regards to the article subject of the piece itself. Both items ("was Banksy present" and "random self-claimed magician claims it was staged") clearly fall afoul of WP:RSEDITORIAL. For the former there is no evidence that Banksy was there, and even the articles used as sources at most refer to that unnamed 'people online' claimed it was him (the Sky News source doesn't even go so far as to suggest it was Banksy, rather calling them "the person who filmed for Banksy"). For the latter, there is only a single source provided from a website whose output is clearly not of a reliable nature and more akin to Buzzfeed (itself not considered reliable) given titles such as "50 Hilarious Pics From People’s ‘Blunder Years’ That’ll Forever Live Online As A Cringy Reminder (New Pics)", that quotes simply some guy who claims they're a magician saying they've "analysed the video" and therefore think it was staged.
If it had been confirmed Banksy was there (and thereby revealing his identity at the same time) that would be notable to warrant inclusion. If say the respected expert illusionist Derren Brown proved with evidence it had been staged, that would be notable enough to warrant inclusion. However two bits of speculation that effectively boil down to "random people on social media think Banksy was there/staged it" then that isn't of the quality level to warrant inclusion in the same way we don't document every claimed sighting of wild panthers in the UK every time someone tells their local tabloid they definitely saw one. Rambling Rambler ( talk) 21:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
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The article currently says the frame was plugged in to power electrical lights in the frame. But in videos of the event there's no sign of a cord coming out of the frame, nor of any kind of electrical connection when people remove the artwork (including frame) and carry it away. (There's also no sign at any time of lights in the frame, though they could have been turned off.) There's no citation for the frame being plugged in, though there is a "[citation needed]". Should the statement be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DKMell ( talk • contribs) 19:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
This artwork is discussed in detail at Banksy#Balloon_Girl_shredding, Balloon Girl, and here. Is this appropriate? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Should we removed Category:Vandalized works of art in the United Kingdom? The artwork wasn't exactly vandalized since the shredding was executed on purpose by the artist. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
The Sotheby's site says it was given away shortly after Barely Legal in 2006, but it's unclear whether or not it was actually in that exhibition. I couldn't find any source directly about it being exhibited in 2006, or at any time before 2018.-- Pharos ( talk) 20:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
I reverted your deletion - look at the video at 0'11" - a test sheet of black paper is clearly cut by the circular blades, four strips (white on the back side) have gone around the roller... Greetings, -- Janke | Talk 15:41, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Is Love is in the Bin or Love Is in the Bin more appropriate? We have the artwork's official name vs. WP's manual of style. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:54, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Multiple reliable sources differ considerably on the 14 October 2021 sales price:
I believe the BBC source is a typo or misinformation. They also say "The sale... beats the previous record of £16.8m set for Banksy in March." .. How can £16.0m million "beat" £16.8m? It makes no sense. This article is not reliable. The majority say £18.6m however I believe this is a stylistic rounding so they write a clean "£18.6 million". Sotheby's itself reported £18,582,000 which is the most reliable figure. Even the Sotheby's article first states £18.6 million than gives the precise figure further down. -- Green C 01:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
@ GreenC replying here as put in changelog. Really have to disagree with the continued inclusion of the speculation section in this article as it is completely non-encyclopaedic information that is not noteworthy in regards to the article subject of the piece itself. Both items ("was Banksy present" and "random self-claimed magician claims it was staged") clearly fall afoul of WP:RSEDITORIAL. For the former there is no evidence that Banksy was there, and even the articles used as sources at most refer to that unnamed 'people online' claimed it was him (the Sky News source doesn't even go so far as to suggest it was Banksy, rather calling them "the person who filmed for Banksy"). For the latter, there is only a single source provided from a website whose output is clearly not of a reliable nature and more akin to Buzzfeed (itself not considered reliable) given titles such as "50 Hilarious Pics From People’s ‘Blunder Years’ That’ll Forever Live Online As A Cringy Reminder (New Pics)", that quotes simply some guy who claims they're a magician saying they've "analysed the video" and therefore think it was staged.
If it had been confirmed Banksy was there (and thereby revealing his identity at the same time) that would be notable to warrant inclusion. If say the respected expert illusionist Derren Brown proved with evidence it had been staged, that would be notable enough to warrant inclusion. However two bits of speculation that effectively boil down to "random people on social media think Banksy was there/staged it" then that isn't of the quality level to warrant inclusion in the same way we don't document every claimed sighting of wild panthers in the UK every time someone tells their local tabloid they definitely saw one. Rambling Rambler ( talk) 21:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)