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Good Job, Asarlaí. This incident deserved an article of its own.-- Darius ( talk) 23:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Nowhere has there been proof that the unit contained only 8 members. In fact, in a statement in An Phoblacht/Republican News dated the 14 May 1987, the IRA states that a number of it's volunteers shot their way out of the ambush and escaped. It went on to claim that one of those volunteers saw a captured comrade being shot while lying injured on the ground. The statement is referenced here: http://www.lib.unb.ca/Texts/JCS/CQ/vol010_3summer1990/wright.pdf -- Baldeadly ( talk) 04:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
How can this be reported as fact? What is the source of the Guardian? The Irish Times reports the number being 24. What is their source? This is the problem with Wiki, any report on any online site is used as a credible source, no matter how dodgy. Hmm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.193.117 ( talk) 03:08, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The figure of 24, sourced to the ECHR proceedings, is probably wrong. Mark Urban, in Big Boys' Rules: The SAS and the Secret Struggle Against the IRA, Faber, London, 1992, ISBN 0-571-16809-4, p.228, states:- 'Commanders decided that the twenty-four SAS soldiers stationed in Ulster were insufficient for this task, so 22 SAS headquarters in Hereford was alerted. A troop of about fifteen soldiers from G Squadron was flown over from Britain to boost the forces in Ulster.' This would give a maximum of perhaps 39, but the exact number is not known. Khamba Tendal ( talk) 19:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
It seems odd to use "ambush" to describe this incident, particularly as it occurred during an attack launched by the "ambushed". "Ambush" typically describes the attacker lying in wait, not responding to an attack by the other side. If there is some peculiar reason to use the term, it should be explained. -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 16:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Whilst Melbguy05 seems to be unaware of the Troubles restrictions whereas The Banner definitely knows of them, I find it odd for The Banner especially with their block history to engage in such an edit-war without any form of proper discussion especially when the edits they are objecting too are 1) an improvement to the article; 2) reliably sourced such as the European Commission on Human Rights, unlike some of the ones they have restored such as the Guardian newspaper or other statements that are not sourced at all!
Obviously there are POV issues in play here and Loughgall remains a propaganda battlefield for republicans, however The Banner has provided no viable reasoning as far as I can see for the reverting of Melbguy05's edits, which are all reliably sourced. Obviously both are guilty of edit-warring, however only The Banner as far as I am aware knows of the Troubles restrictions. Mabuska (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Good Job, Asarlaí. This incident deserved an article of its own.-- Darius ( talk) 23:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Nowhere has there been proof that the unit contained only 8 members. In fact, in a statement in An Phoblacht/Republican News dated the 14 May 1987, the IRA states that a number of it's volunteers shot their way out of the ambush and escaped. It went on to claim that one of those volunteers saw a captured comrade being shot while lying injured on the ground. The statement is referenced here: http://www.lib.unb.ca/Texts/JCS/CQ/vol010_3summer1990/wright.pdf -- Baldeadly ( talk) 04:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
How can this be reported as fact? What is the source of the Guardian? The Irish Times reports the number being 24. What is their source? This is the problem with Wiki, any report on any online site is used as a credible source, no matter how dodgy. Hmm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.193.117 ( talk) 03:08, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The figure of 24, sourced to the ECHR proceedings, is probably wrong. Mark Urban, in Big Boys' Rules: The SAS and the Secret Struggle Against the IRA, Faber, London, 1992, ISBN 0-571-16809-4, p.228, states:- 'Commanders decided that the twenty-four SAS soldiers stationed in Ulster were insufficient for this task, so 22 SAS headquarters in Hereford was alerted. A troop of about fifteen soldiers from G Squadron was flown over from Britain to boost the forces in Ulster.' This would give a maximum of perhaps 39, but the exact number is not known. Khamba Tendal ( talk) 19:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
It seems odd to use "ambush" to describe this incident, particularly as it occurred during an attack launched by the "ambushed". "Ambush" typically describes the attacker lying in wait, not responding to an attack by the other side. If there is some peculiar reason to use the term, it should be explained. -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 16:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Whilst Melbguy05 seems to be unaware of the Troubles restrictions whereas The Banner definitely knows of them, I find it odd for The Banner especially with their block history to engage in such an edit-war without any form of proper discussion especially when the edits they are objecting too are 1) an improvement to the article; 2) reliably sourced such as the European Commission on Human Rights, unlike some of the ones they have restored such as the Guardian newspaper or other statements that are not sourced at all!
Obviously there are POV issues in play here and Loughgall remains a propaganda battlefield for republicans, however The Banner has provided no viable reasoning as far as I can see for the reverting of Melbguy05's edits, which are all reliably sourced. Obviously both are guilty of edit-warring, however only The Banner as far as I am aware knows of the Troubles restrictions. Mabuska (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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