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The track list needs a citation. People could be making this up for all I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sector311 ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
There was a citation, but its gone now. It also had album art work. -- xMetal_Madnessx ( talk) 22:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Darker? I'm suprised. I thought Define the Great Line was perfectly dark enough. -- Alreajk ( talk) 01:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Completely agreed. ~~-~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.81.162 ( talk) 18:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this is a dark album.The guitars and vocals all give this album a darker sound. It's a deeper album than the last in my opinion.:] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.154.136 ( talk) 01:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Dark but not creepy. - anony.
Where are people getting this???? The album hasnt even been released yet and people are arleady writing genres???? -- xMetal_Madnessx ( talk) 22:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC) telling the truth i dont know where they get any of this crap. -Sector311 ( talk) 23:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't think we should add a genre until the album comes out. They said it was going to be heavier, we don't know if it will be metalcore or not, they might go back to something like their original 2 albums (Act of Depression and Cries of the Past) those albums were not metalcore. Emo777 ( talk) 06:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I Think The Album may be Deathcore since it means Death Metal and Metalcore mixed. The first song they have relesed on their myspace dose have some death metal undertones. Like with the instumental and spencers low/death growls, but it did still have it's Metalcore sound in it. So the possablity of them being deathcore in this album could be high. i'm not 100% sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.233.40 ( talk) 21:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The track listings were fake... Heres proof http://youtube.com/watch?v=J77WzHdt46Y—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamaha519vx ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
That could j/be a code name. Doesn't mean the others were fake. 71.79.81.162 ( talk) 13:48, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
But remember the MTV interview said they were working with names like Viper and Elephant and what not. Plus that website is not trusted. But the name Lost in the Sound of Separation is true because MTV posted it. Album art is unknown but it could be real. Also here's another new song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TDGvydYCy4—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamaha519vx ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, the name Desperate Times, Desperate Measures was confirmed to be on the Madden '09 soundtrack, so that means that either Viper Pit is a codename, or parts of the track listing is right, while others are wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.251.150 ( talk) 07:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The album has been leaked, but I don't want to cite the source yet since it obviously isn't legal. As soon as I see another prominent source reference the leak, I can add that as a reference. Artemis11 ( talk) 04:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The last several edits to this page have been regarding the genre. I placed comments in the infobox to direct people here first, and placed both post-hardcore and metalcore in the genre slot — these are used to describe the band on the Underoath page, and on all Underoath albums since Cries of the Past. If you have any objects or comments to this decision, feel free to discuss them here. Please do not make any changes before discussing them first. Thank you. Fezmar9 ( talk) 21:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have the leak of the entire album, calling it anything other than metalcore is foolish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.251.150 ( talk) 02:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The Genre for this Album should be Metalcore/ Experimental Metal. do to the fact that almost every review talk how experimetal this band is. Skateremorocker ( talk) 20:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
you know what you have a good point. but i will go look for a source! user:skateremorocker —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a general consensus that this album is post-hardcore, so I'm adding it to the infobox. ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 01:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, my two cents: Allmusic reviews are reliable, as they are attributable to a writer, but Allmusic tags are not reliable, as we can't tell if the writer was the one who put up the tags. The sources listed in the article that actually discuss genre are the allmusic, alt-press, JFH, and About.com reviews. There may be other sources, but those are the ones in the article. Going by the sources, the genre description should be post-hardcore, screamo metalcore, hardcore, and emo.-- 3family6 ( talk) 13:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I though this was Tim's album/turn to write the lyrics. Supposedly Aaron Gillespie wrote(with the help of other members) most of They're Only Chasing Safety, Spencer wrote (with the help of other members) most of Define the Great Line and now it was Tim's turn to write (with the help of other members) Lost in the Sound of Separation. It says "all lyrics written by Spencer and Aaron" and i can recall that it was not only them. Can someone please post citations or correct this when possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.168.208.20 ( talk) 15:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I bought the album a few days ago, it says on it that only Spencer Chaimberlain and Aaron Gillispie wrote the lyrics. Emo777 ( talk) 04:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the release date be changed to September 2, 2008 (the U.S. release date) since this is the English version of wikipedia. I don't think it makes sense to list the international release date in the infobox. However, I think it would be useful if we kept the "see release dates below" in the infobox and the table that lists the international release dates. What do you guys think? ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 01:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I have heard many people talking about how on nov 1st, Underoath had sold alittle over 86,000 to 90,000 copies in the UK. and that on Oct 26 Underoath had sold close to 56,000 copies in Italy. and in Japan they sold close to 75,000 on nov 4th. Can Anyone prove this? and can anyone find the numbers from the other countrys they relesed this album in. Always roomer has it that Underoath has hit the 200,000 mark for coipes of their new album sold so far as of nov 14th in the usa! Hardcorescreamo777 ( talk) 16:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
My impression was that 'Act of Depression' and 'Cries of the Past' were EPs and 'The Changing of Times' was the first full length CD, but I've editted the articles thus a few times and it's always been reverted. Am I just wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jh39 ( talk • contribs) 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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The track list needs a citation. People could be making this up for all I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sector311 ( talk • contribs) 18:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
There was a citation, but its gone now. It also had album art work. -- xMetal_Madnessx ( talk) 22:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Darker? I'm suprised. I thought Define the Great Line was perfectly dark enough. -- Alreajk ( talk) 01:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Completely agreed. ~~-~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.81.162 ( talk) 18:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this is a dark album.The guitars and vocals all give this album a darker sound. It's a deeper album than the last in my opinion.:] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.154.136 ( talk) 01:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Dark but not creepy. - anony.
Where are people getting this???? The album hasnt even been released yet and people are arleady writing genres???? -- xMetal_Madnessx ( talk) 22:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC) telling the truth i dont know where they get any of this crap. -Sector311 ( talk) 23:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't think we should add a genre until the album comes out. They said it was going to be heavier, we don't know if it will be metalcore or not, they might go back to something like their original 2 albums (Act of Depression and Cries of the Past) those albums were not metalcore. Emo777 ( talk) 06:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I Think The Album may be Deathcore since it means Death Metal and Metalcore mixed. The first song they have relesed on their myspace dose have some death metal undertones. Like with the instumental and spencers low/death growls, but it did still have it's Metalcore sound in it. So the possablity of them being deathcore in this album could be high. i'm not 100% sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.233.40 ( talk) 21:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
The track listings were fake... Heres proof http://youtube.com/watch?v=J77WzHdt46Y—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamaha519vx ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
That could j/be a code name. Doesn't mean the others were fake. 71.79.81.162 ( talk) 13:48, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
But remember the MTV interview said they were working with names like Viper and Elephant and what not. Plus that website is not trusted. But the name Lost in the Sound of Separation is true because MTV posted it. Album art is unknown but it could be real. Also here's another new song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TDGvydYCy4—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamaha519vx ( talk • contribs) 19:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, the name Desperate Times, Desperate Measures was confirmed to be on the Madden '09 soundtrack, so that means that either Viper Pit is a codename, or parts of the track listing is right, while others are wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.251.150 ( talk) 07:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The album has been leaked, but I don't want to cite the source yet since it obviously isn't legal. As soon as I see another prominent source reference the leak, I can add that as a reference. Artemis11 ( talk) 04:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The last several edits to this page have been regarding the genre. I placed comments in the infobox to direct people here first, and placed both post-hardcore and metalcore in the genre slot — these are used to describe the band on the Underoath page, and on all Underoath albums since Cries of the Past. If you have any objects or comments to this decision, feel free to discuss them here. Please do not make any changes before discussing them first. Thank you. Fezmar9 ( talk) 21:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have the leak of the entire album, calling it anything other than metalcore is foolish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.251.150 ( talk) 02:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The Genre for this Album should be Metalcore/ Experimental Metal. do to the fact that almost every review talk how experimetal this band is. Skateremorocker ( talk) 20:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
you know what you have a good point. but i will go look for a source! user:skateremorocker —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a general consensus that this album is post-hardcore, so I'm adding it to the infobox. ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 01:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, my two cents: Allmusic reviews are reliable, as they are attributable to a writer, but Allmusic tags are not reliable, as we can't tell if the writer was the one who put up the tags. The sources listed in the article that actually discuss genre are the allmusic, alt-press, JFH, and About.com reviews. There may be other sources, but those are the ones in the article. Going by the sources, the genre description should be post-hardcore, screamo metalcore, hardcore, and emo.-- 3family6 ( talk) 13:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I though this was Tim's album/turn to write the lyrics. Supposedly Aaron Gillespie wrote(with the help of other members) most of They're Only Chasing Safety, Spencer wrote (with the help of other members) most of Define the Great Line and now it was Tim's turn to write (with the help of other members) Lost in the Sound of Separation. It says "all lyrics written by Spencer and Aaron" and i can recall that it was not only them. Can someone please post citations or correct this when possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.168.208.20 ( talk) 15:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I bought the album a few days ago, it says on it that only Spencer Chaimberlain and Aaron Gillispie wrote the lyrics. Emo777 ( talk) 04:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the release date be changed to September 2, 2008 (the U.S. release date) since this is the English version of wikipedia. I don't think it makes sense to list the international release date in the infobox. However, I think it would be useful if we kept the "see release dates below" in the infobox and the table that lists the international release dates. What do you guys think? ŁittleÄlien¹8² ( talk\ contribs) 01:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I have heard many people talking about how on nov 1st, Underoath had sold alittle over 86,000 to 90,000 copies in the UK. and that on Oct 26 Underoath had sold close to 56,000 copies in Italy. and in Japan they sold close to 75,000 on nov 4th. Can Anyone prove this? and can anyone find the numbers from the other countrys they relesed this album in. Always roomer has it that Underoath has hit the 200,000 mark for coipes of their new album sold so far as of nov 14th in the usa! Hardcorescreamo777 ( talk) 16:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
My impression was that 'Act of Depression' and 'Cries of the Past' were EPs and 'The Changing of Times' was the first full length CD, but I've editted the articles thus a few times and it's always been reverted. Am I just wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jh39 ( talk • contribs) 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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