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Since when is that site non-copyrighted? An article on this college is necessary, but I'm not sure that a copy-paste operation is the way to do it. —
lensovet–
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00:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
since when did Tom Selleck attend Valley College? His page showed he attended USC and played on the USC basketball team.
Tomgagaga (
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16:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Notable Alumni
Don Shinnick (sp) began his football career at Valley in 1954, then went to UCLA before going on to a stellar pro carrier with the then Baltimore Colts of the NFL.
24.28.106.195 (
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01:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Please review
WP:BRD; in general, it's completely acceptable (and indeed preferred by many editors) for editors to remove newly-added material with an explanation in the edit summary. What is not acceptable is for the original editor who added the material to add it back to the article; that is the beginning of an
edit war and that's a poor way of interacting with other editors.
Now let's talk about the material that you've edit-warred to add to this article. One paragraph is about a a Zoom-bombing incident earlier this year. Unless there are some unreported details, this doesn't seem to say anything about the college except that in one Zoom meeting they forgot or didn't know to limit access to the meeting so that bad actors could not randomly connect to the meeting and disrupt. This same thing happened to thousands of Zoom meetings of all kinds this spring and summer, especially before Zoom tightened up some of the default settings for meetings. So I am very puzzled about why you think this one incident that doesn't seem to be specific to this college and doesn't appear to have had any repercussions is something that should be included in an encyclopedia article about the entire history, organization, funding, accomplishments, and struggles of this organization that is over 70 years old.
The other paragraph that you've begun an edit war to add to this article is about a single person's complaint about the limited public access to the college's track. It's disappointing but not surprising that a local news station picked up on this complaint but it in no way rises to the level of inclusion in an encyclopedia article.
ElKevbo (
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22:31, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Clearly you are someone who either attends or works for the college and not a neutral party. It is neither your place or position to dictate to us or anyone else what should or should not be added.
All information added is compliant with Wiki's policies and the fact that you are now trashing NBCLA (hardly just a local news source) and think it's "disappointing" speaks volumes about your intentions.
We did not start an edit war, but you seem to be as well as extremely abusive and hostile in your response. The fact that you didn't start with a discussion when invited to do so, but first decided to delete and then responded with a barrage of personal attacks speaks volumes.
First, if you'd like to know more about me, you're welcome to read my User page. But attacking other editors is
not acceptable; continue and you're liable to be blocked from editing.
Second, why are you referring to yourself with plural pronouns ("us," "we")?
Shared accounts are not allowed in Wikipedia; if there are multiple people using this account, each person must create their own account.
Third, this article is
not yours and you cannot dictate to others what can and cannot be added or retained. You must collaborate with other editors and abide by our policies and practices, including
writing with a neutral point of view. Given your username, you might also benefit from reviewing
this supplement.
Cut out the personal attacks and address the issues that I have raised: Why is this information encyclopedic? Why is it essential for readers who want to understand the subject of this article?
ElKevbo (
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01:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay you need to seriously back off. Your manner, demeanor and attitude is extremely un-professional and you do not dictate what happens. You are the only person not collaborating, abiding by Wiki policies or making personal attacks.
And now you are threatening because you're having a tantrum and found out you can't bully others.
Dude, you need to seriously lose your massive sense of entitlement. Nobody owes you anything. The fact that you are behaving in such an aggressive manner and are disparaging "local news outlets" like NBC, the Los Angeles Times, LA Daily News is proof you have an agenda.
Not sure what your problem is or why you don't know how to communicate or collaborate with other people but that is your problem. Please refrain from anymore vandalism on this page or aggressive behavior towards other editors. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
LACCDWhistleblower (
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00:02, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
Since when is that site non-copyrighted? An article on this college is necessary, but I'm not sure that a copy-paste operation is the way to do it. —
lensovet–
talk –
00:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
since when did Tom Selleck attend Valley College? His page showed he attended USC and played on the USC basketball team.
Tomgagaga (
talk)
16:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Notable Alumni
Don Shinnick (sp) began his football career at Valley in 1954, then went to UCLA before going on to a stellar pro carrier with the then Baltimore Colts of the NFL.
24.28.106.195 (
talk)
01:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Please review
WP:BRD; in general, it's completely acceptable (and indeed preferred by many editors) for editors to remove newly-added material with an explanation in the edit summary. What is not acceptable is for the original editor who added the material to add it back to the article; that is the beginning of an
edit war and that's a poor way of interacting with other editors.
Now let's talk about the material that you've edit-warred to add to this article. One paragraph is about a a Zoom-bombing incident earlier this year. Unless there are some unreported details, this doesn't seem to say anything about the college except that in one Zoom meeting they forgot or didn't know to limit access to the meeting so that bad actors could not randomly connect to the meeting and disrupt. This same thing happened to thousands of Zoom meetings of all kinds this spring and summer, especially before Zoom tightened up some of the default settings for meetings. So I am very puzzled about why you think this one incident that doesn't seem to be specific to this college and doesn't appear to have had any repercussions is something that should be included in an encyclopedia article about the entire history, organization, funding, accomplishments, and struggles of this organization that is over 70 years old.
The other paragraph that you've begun an edit war to add to this article is about a single person's complaint about the limited public access to the college's track. It's disappointing but not surprising that a local news station picked up on this complaint but it in no way rises to the level of inclusion in an encyclopedia article.
ElKevbo (
talk)
22:31, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Clearly you are someone who either attends or works for the college and not a neutral party. It is neither your place or position to dictate to us or anyone else what should or should not be added.
All information added is compliant with Wiki's policies and the fact that you are now trashing NBCLA (hardly just a local news source) and think it's "disappointing" speaks volumes about your intentions.
We did not start an edit war, but you seem to be as well as extremely abusive and hostile in your response. The fact that you didn't start with a discussion when invited to do so, but first decided to delete and then responded with a barrage of personal attacks speaks volumes.
First, if you'd like to know more about me, you're welcome to read my User page. But attacking other editors is
not acceptable; continue and you're liable to be blocked from editing.
Second, why are you referring to yourself with plural pronouns ("us," "we")?
Shared accounts are not allowed in Wikipedia; if there are multiple people using this account, each person must create their own account.
Third, this article is
not yours and you cannot dictate to others what can and cannot be added or retained. You must collaborate with other editors and abide by our policies and practices, including
writing with a neutral point of view. Given your username, you might also benefit from reviewing
this supplement.
Cut out the personal attacks and address the issues that I have raised: Why is this information encyclopedic? Why is it essential for readers who want to understand the subject of this article?
ElKevbo (
talk)
01:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay you need to seriously back off. Your manner, demeanor and attitude is extremely un-professional and you do not dictate what happens. You are the only person not collaborating, abiding by Wiki policies or making personal attacks.
And now you are threatening because you're having a tantrum and found out you can't bully others.
Dude, you need to seriously lose your massive sense of entitlement. Nobody owes you anything. The fact that you are behaving in such an aggressive manner and are disparaging "local news outlets" like NBC, the Los Angeles Times, LA Daily News is proof you have an agenda.
Not sure what your problem is or why you don't know how to communicate or collaborate with other people but that is your problem. Please refrain from anymore vandalism on this page or aggressive behavior towards other editors. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
LACCDWhistleblower (
talk •
contribs)
00:02, 28 December 2020 (UTC)