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It is proposed that Lorica Squamata be merged with this article. It was only when I had written Lorica squamata that I found the Lorica Squamata article existed! If the consensus is to merge, I will volenteer to do it. Gaius Cornelius 18:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
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The "greatly exaggerated" idea seems to me to be obviously true; if the lorica in our photograph was mounted on cloth, it would clearly offer no protection whatsoever against upward thrusts since the only connection between rows which might hinder a blade from sliding between them, is the cloth backing. -- Securiger 03:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily. If the scales were attached to a form of linothorax (multiple layers of linen acting as a composite armour) and/or felt, both of which were in use generally in the ancient world, then you have an incredibly effective armour even if a sword tip went under the scales. The subarmalis itself may have been a type of linothorax. You also seem to assume that the most common weapon that Roman armour would need to withstand was a sword, when the reality was it was spears, which by their very use would seldom penetrate from below. There is also the accepted typical Roman fighting posture - crouched low with the scutum as primary defence. The scales would act very well in that stance. Did the Romans worry about the lorica segmentata overlapping downwards? --Tarbicus.
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It is proposed that Lorica Squamata be merged with this article. It was only when I had written Lorica squamata that I found the Lorica Squamata article existed! If the consensus is to merge, I will volenteer to do it. Gaius Cornelius 18:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
What is the basis for the claim:
The "greatly exaggerated" idea seems to me to be obviously true; if the lorica in our photograph was mounted on cloth, it would clearly offer no protection whatsoever against upward thrusts since the only connection between rows which might hinder a blade from sliding between them, is the cloth backing. -- Securiger 03:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Not necessarily. If the scales were attached to a form of linothorax (multiple layers of linen acting as a composite armour) and/or felt, both of which were in use generally in the ancient world, then you have an incredibly effective armour even if a sword tip went under the scales. The subarmalis itself may have been a type of linothorax. You also seem to assume that the most common weapon that Roman armour would need to withstand was a sword, when the reality was it was spears, which by their very use would seldom penetrate from below. There is also the accepted typical Roman fighting posture - crouched low with the scutum as primary defence. The scales would act very well in that stance. Did the Romans worry about the lorica segmentata overlapping downwards? --Tarbicus.
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