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I have created stubs on all the members of Lordi that didn't have articles exept for Ox: I haven't seen the sources for his real name, so I'll hold off writing a stub until I see them. Duke toaster 16:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
GWAR have their members under their stage name, so I think Lordi should to
The articles have redirect pages with the bandmembers name. Or at least Ox does, I made it. skorpion 22:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
IMO they are notable. BUT they have stage names, they use them in interviews. We should respect their wishes, what is the point of us knowing their real names. They asked to not have their personal lives intruded. What if we wind up with another car crash like France on our hands? And we've all seen the papers about the pictures used in an Italian magazine. I will not allow their real names to be posted, I will come back and delete them til they are all gone. Even if it takes me a year —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.160.206 ( talk • contribs)
Likely to? I know I have the potential to be. but if GWAR's members are under their stage names, why not Lordi's?
Yes but Lordi have specifically stated, even in the Lordi entry in Wikipedia its mentioned, that they do not wish to be identified. THats including names, pictures, etc etc. Bit contradictory the Lordi entry isnt it?
Actually if you're recording what THEY want, dont you then have to allowe them some priovacy? Or has the Human Rights Act not been put into use here? ARTICLE 8 RIGHT TO RESPECT FOR PRIVATE AND FAMILY LIFE 1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence. This is what I'm on about, so by posting their real names isnt it a contravention of the Human Rights Act? ( UKLFC 12:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Not a legal threat, im just stating a fact. Its also under Article 12 of the Universal Human Rights Act signed by all member states of the United Nations. If it was a legal threat, it wouldnt just be a bit about Human Rights. Hunam Rights are to be respected at all times, within a legal contect or not, and you're not respecting someones human rights? Also the names havent ben put in the public domain by the band themselves. Different matter if they had, BUT they havent ( UKLFC 13:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Wikipedia is still held under international law isnt it? Laws do still apply here? If they havent given their names then why are they being posted? Just cos they are in the public domain, and neither confirmed or denied by the member,s they should be removed UNTIL confirmation by members has been given ( UKLFC 13:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
But shouldnt the info come from the members themselves? And the state of Florida still hae to acknowledge international law that overrules Florida law does it not? ( UKLFC 13:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Net sites still have to stick to the laws, part of the contract with the site hosts and the isps isnt it? So yeah the laws DO apply ( UKLFC 15:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Hi, It has been a while and the page has grew alot now but I would like to ask if a kind person of Wikipedia can post the main reason why Wikipedia will try to keep the alleged band members names published on the page so to speak. I feel there is alot of unwanted attention to the article both by Lordi fans (Monstermaniacs) and Wikipedia (Moderators I presume). If there is a valid legal or otherwise "good enough" reason for the alleged names to stay here then I believe we can finaly calm down the dispute over the page once and for all. Beauty of the Beast 19:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Has it actually been confirmed or denied by any of Lordi themselves? If it hasn't then should it really be on here until it is confirmed? And if it has/hasnt been confirmed then shouldnt it be noted? ( UKLFC 19:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC))
No International Privacy law broken! this is an Encyclopedia so facts are written! If Only things were written in these biographies that the people in the biographies wanted written, it would not be much of an encyclopedia! AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG-- MadDogCrog 11:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
According to this section, Lordi is similar to six american bands and one australian band. Why? They don't sound american at all. Either we should carefully make this section unbiased, or we should remove it. I vote for removing it. --PsySine
I also think its the best to remove the section, most band articles don't have such a section. Surak 21:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding Ox's. Will write stub on Ox. Duke toaster 10:21, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Kalma´s real name is Pekka Tarvanen. I found that on the finnisch wiki-site. Can somebody registered put it in the text please? -- 89.58.21.122 17:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Just an observation : why do so few people sign their comments on this talk page? Duke toaster 10:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Kalmas real name is NOT Pekka Tarvanen. Not sure where ya heard that from.
Only Mr. Lordi is originally from Rovaniemi. All the members live in Southern Finland, in Helsinki or nearby. Kita's from Vantaa, Ox's from Espoo (both sister cities or suburbs of Helsinki), Amen's from Mäntsälä and Axa's from Porvoo. -- Lalli 18:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
And Rovaniemi isnt in Finland, its one of the largest cities in Lapland ( UKLFC 12:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Rovaniemi is within the Finnish border though. It is in the Laplands. ( Beauty of the Beast)
Rovaniemi certainly is in Finland, as Rovaniemi is the capital city of Lapland Region, being located in the Finnish Lapland. The Laplands in general are the historical living area of the Sami people, but there is no independent state or country of Lapland. Instead, the Lapland area is divided between Finland, Norway, Sweden and Russia. They all have their own Laplands. Finnish Lapland and Rovaniemi are inhabited by the Sami and non-Sami people, Mr. Lordi being a non-Sami (in other words, he's a regular Finn). Before Mr. Lordi and his victory in Eurovision contest, the most exciting thing in the history of Rovaniemi was the Burning of Lapland in 1945 in Lapland War (between Finland and Germany), when the escaping German army burnt the whole city to the ground. 62.183.220.246 16:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Rovaniemi isn't in Finland? That's one of the funniest things I've heard on Wikipedia in a long time. It's like saying Lappeenranta isn't in Finland because it's in Karelia. Or perhaps even like saying Helsinki isn't in Finland because it's in Nylandia. UKLC, have you ever even visited Rovaniemi? JIP | Talk 11:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The lyrics as given on the Eurovision site contain one doubtless mistake and one probable mistake.
1. The word "thyn" does not exist in English. "Thy" and "thine" do exist, however.
2. "The true believers / Thou shall be saved" does not make much sense. Having listened to the song carefully and several times over, I think it might be "Now shall be saved." Which makes perfect sense. However, it is difficult to tell: the word "Thou" or "Now" is drowned in the music.
It's an old trick of the 70s Finnish rock'n roll. Some strange words in lyrics written in English. Listen 'Get on' by Hurriganes or parody of this: 'Friduna Skikuna' by Hullujussi. Some say the 'Get on' lyrics are a bad example of the band's skill of English. But a brit, Richard Stanley was responsible of the lyrics then. -- Lalli 15:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The footnote for "Vote for Lordi" is a link to what seems to be a poorly written personal webpage. Is that really something that should be a reference? 216.36.157.91 17:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
If someone can come up with a better name for this section, please do change it. I belive the separation is necessary tho; the three last paragraphs of the costumes section are clearly about the media response to the costumes, not the costumes themselves. Pasi 00:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
-- The part where it says there appear four men and one woman in the Luthianian video is wrong. The video shows five men. - SWEVEN
I think we need to work on the article's lead. Problems: - "They are mostly known for their unusual monster costumes and lyrical themes." This isn't really true anymore. True, the next sentence mentions the Eurovision Song Contest but it's a new paragraph. I'd like to find a way to say that the contest introduced Lordi to a lot of people who had not heard about them earlier. All this needs to maintain a NPOV of course. - "Some controversy with the band does exist, however. Many members of the metal community see Lordi's use of monster costumes as a knockoff of the band GWAR, which has used similar costumes for years." This doesn't really belong to the lead, does it?
Also, what happened to the controversy section? Nothing in talk, no relevant subjects in history? Pasi 15:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
"Let it be noted that Lordi probably got all their inspiration from Shock Rock group GWAR." doesn't (in my opinion) maintain a NPOV. I edited it a bit but the GWAR bit is still lacking reference. Pasi 19:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
(Ugh, I've soon started half of these subtopics on the talk page. Someone stop me)
There seems to be a minor edit was going on about the band's genre. Someone might categorise some of it as vandalism, but let's assume good faith: can't we simply have all heavy metal, glam rock and hard rock listed as genres? It's not like Lordi would be the first band in Wikipedia with several genres. There definitely are aspects of all these genres in Lordi's music. Editing back and forth between them is going to just confuse people and make Wikipedia look silly.
There's a reason the infobox says "Genre(s)". My 'proposal' is to leave the lead as it is ("Lordi is a heavy metal band") and list the other genres in the infobox. It's not like there's an Ultimate Authority that categorises music and will say the final word. Pasi 09:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Umm, who is G-stealer? I haven't ever heard of him and I Google is not helping. Could someone verify that he really exists? 80.186.62.184 13:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Centurion Ry 19:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Several people have been insisting to me that Lordi are a christian band. I haven't seen any reliable source for or against this, but I've been told that they said so on their official site. Can someone verify or disprove this information, please? Iron C hris | (talk) 14:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
In fact I really miss some information on christian-conservative criticism and arousal. Should be relevant, because it almost made Lordi be replaced by another band in the EuroVisionContest, but I don't know that for sure (It was in the German Wikipedia).-- StalkerAT 11:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Please see Lordi is not a satanistic band, lower in this forum.
The members are christian, the only songs that can be though of to be chirstian are probably "Hard Rock Hallelujah" and "Devil is a Loser".
A request has been made that the article Blood red sandman be merged with this page. I didn't add the tag, I just found it. Discuss. -- Rayc 18:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Can someone add this link : http://lordi-france.fr.tc Its a french lordi homepage. thanks ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.250.199.123 ( talk • contribs) 09:24, July 16, 2006 (UTC)
How about adding http://www.lordifans.com then? It's a fairly large US based Lordi fansite. Herrinz 02:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Lordi has commented, that if they were an satanistic band. They would not have made tracks like Devil is a loser and Hard Rock Hallelujah. Hit it!
Someone knowledgeable should add to the article about mr. Lordi playing Santa Claus on Finnish television.
The names are unverified information. They are simply rumors from the same newspapers that came up with the Children of Bodom pics and thus have proven to be unreliable. Wikipedia is not a collection of rumors. Until there is exact proof of the names they don't belong here. -- 80.200.86.25 14:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I still don't see any references which prove it's their names anywhere in the article after reading it completely through as Sarah seemed to point at. Any more detailed point to where is the reference for their names? -- Mr0x 15:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
? Do I know better? I don't know their real names, neither do I care to know. But I do know better than to pollute the Wiki with unverified information. "To the best of our knowledge" for some reason I don't recall being a valid source. -- Mr0x 15:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
What I was referring to earlier, burden of evidence, apparently is a rule on Wikipedia itself even. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence and Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence_in_biographies_of_living_persons The part afterwards, about unreliable sources specifically mentions tabloids also, like the ones the pictures are from, and thus I -assume- until a better source is given, also the "real names" -- Mr0x 16:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll try to look for sources for the other names, but at least Mr. Lordi's name has been stated in numerous articles in reputable newspapers ( Helsingin Sanomat for one) and on many interviews. I would imagine the others have as well. Pasi 17:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
A request has now also been made to merge the newly-created Devil is a Loser with this article. - Blood red sandman 16:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
A request has also been made to merge this with Who's Your daddy? (Lordi song). Discuss. - Blood red sandman 14:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Seriously, can we do something about these numerous merge notices on the top of the article? We should either decide to merge (them all) or not merge. It looks silly to have a plethora of merge notices appear there for every single viewer of the page. Pasi 23:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Someone has taken the tag off Devil is a Loser. - Blood red sandman 06:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Devil Is a Loser and Blood Red Sandman merge tags. Devil is a Loser tag was removed from the original article, and BRS has been there over a month. I'll remove the last one on 18th unless there's a sudden uprising. Pasi 14:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
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I have created stubs on all the members of Lordi that didn't have articles exept for Ox: I haven't seen the sources for his real name, so I'll hold off writing a stub until I see them. Duke toaster 16:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
GWAR have their members under their stage name, so I think Lordi should to
The articles have redirect pages with the bandmembers name. Or at least Ox does, I made it. skorpion 22:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
IMO they are notable. BUT they have stage names, they use them in interviews. We should respect their wishes, what is the point of us knowing their real names. They asked to not have their personal lives intruded. What if we wind up with another car crash like France on our hands? And we've all seen the papers about the pictures used in an Italian magazine. I will not allow their real names to be posted, I will come back and delete them til they are all gone. Even if it takes me a year —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.160.206 ( talk • contribs)
Likely to? I know I have the potential to be. but if GWAR's members are under their stage names, why not Lordi's?
Yes but Lordi have specifically stated, even in the Lordi entry in Wikipedia its mentioned, that they do not wish to be identified. THats including names, pictures, etc etc. Bit contradictory the Lordi entry isnt it?
Actually if you're recording what THEY want, dont you then have to allowe them some priovacy? Or has the Human Rights Act not been put into use here? ARTICLE 8 RIGHT TO RESPECT FOR PRIVATE AND FAMILY LIFE 1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence. This is what I'm on about, so by posting their real names isnt it a contravention of the Human Rights Act? ( UKLFC 12:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Not a legal threat, im just stating a fact. Its also under Article 12 of the Universal Human Rights Act signed by all member states of the United Nations. If it was a legal threat, it wouldnt just be a bit about Human Rights. Hunam Rights are to be respected at all times, within a legal contect or not, and you're not respecting someones human rights? Also the names havent ben put in the public domain by the band themselves. Different matter if they had, BUT they havent ( UKLFC 13:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Wikipedia is still held under international law isnt it? Laws do still apply here? If they havent given their names then why are they being posted? Just cos they are in the public domain, and neither confirmed or denied by the member,s they should be removed UNTIL confirmation by members has been given ( UKLFC 13:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
But shouldnt the info come from the members themselves? And the state of Florida still hae to acknowledge international law that overrules Florida law does it not? ( UKLFC 13:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Net sites still have to stick to the laws, part of the contract with the site hosts and the isps isnt it? So yeah the laws DO apply ( UKLFC 15:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Hi, It has been a while and the page has grew alot now but I would like to ask if a kind person of Wikipedia can post the main reason why Wikipedia will try to keep the alleged band members names published on the page so to speak. I feel there is alot of unwanted attention to the article both by Lordi fans (Monstermaniacs) and Wikipedia (Moderators I presume). If there is a valid legal or otherwise "good enough" reason for the alleged names to stay here then I believe we can finaly calm down the dispute over the page once and for all. Beauty of the Beast 19:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Has it actually been confirmed or denied by any of Lordi themselves? If it hasn't then should it really be on here until it is confirmed? And if it has/hasnt been confirmed then shouldnt it be noted? ( UKLFC 19:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC))
No International Privacy law broken! this is an Encyclopedia so facts are written! If Only things were written in these biographies that the people in the biographies wanted written, it would not be much of an encyclopedia! AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG-- MadDogCrog 11:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
According to this section, Lordi is similar to six american bands and one australian band. Why? They don't sound american at all. Either we should carefully make this section unbiased, or we should remove it. I vote for removing it. --PsySine
I also think its the best to remove the section, most band articles don't have such a section. Surak 21:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding Ox's. Will write stub on Ox. Duke toaster 10:21, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Kalma´s real name is Pekka Tarvanen. I found that on the finnisch wiki-site. Can somebody registered put it in the text please? -- 89.58.21.122 17:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Just an observation : why do so few people sign their comments on this talk page? Duke toaster 10:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Kalmas real name is NOT Pekka Tarvanen. Not sure where ya heard that from.
Only Mr. Lordi is originally from Rovaniemi. All the members live in Southern Finland, in Helsinki or nearby. Kita's from Vantaa, Ox's from Espoo (both sister cities or suburbs of Helsinki), Amen's from Mäntsälä and Axa's from Porvoo. -- Lalli 18:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
And Rovaniemi isnt in Finland, its one of the largest cities in Lapland ( UKLFC 12:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC))
Rovaniemi is within the Finnish border though. It is in the Laplands. ( Beauty of the Beast)
Rovaniemi certainly is in Finland, as Rovaniemi is the capital city of Lapland Region, being located in the Finnish Lapland. The Laplands in general are the historical living area of the Sami people, but there is no independent state or country of Lapland. Instead, the Lapland area is divided between Finland, Norway, Sweden and Russia. They all have their own Laplands. Finnish Lapland and Rovaniemi are inhabited by the Sami and non-Sami people, Mr. Lordi being a non-Sami (in other words, he's a regular Finn). Before Mr. Lordi and his victory in Eurovision contest, the most exciting thing in the history of Rovaniemi was the Burning of Lapland in 1945 in Lapland War (between Finland and Germany), when the escaping German army burnt the whole city to the ground. 62.183.220.246 16:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Rovaniemi isn't in Finland? That's one of the funniest things I've heard on Wikipedia in a long time. It's like saying Lappeenranta isn't in Finland because it's in Karelia. Or perhaps even like saying Helsinki isn't in Finland because it's in Nylandia. UKLC, have you ever even visited Rovaniemi? JIP | Talk 11:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The lyrics as given on the Eurovision site contain one doubtless mistake and one probable mistake.
1. The word "thyn" does not exist in English. "Thy" and "thine" do exist, however.
2. "The true believers / Thou shall be saved" does not make much sense. Having listened to the song carefully and several times over, I think it might be "Now shall be saved." Which makes perfect sense. However, it is difficult to tell: the word "Thou" or "Now" is drowned in the music.
It's an old trick of the 70s Finnish rock'n roll. Some strange words in lyrics written in English. Listen 'Get on' by Hurriganes or parody of this: 'Friduna Skikuna' by Hullujussi. Some say the 'Get on' lyrics are a bad example of the band's skill of English. But a brit, Richard Stanley was responsible of the lyrics then. -- Lalli 15:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The footnote for "Vote for Lordi" is a link to what seems to be a poorly written personal webpage. Is that really something that should be a reference? 216.36.157.91 17:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
If someone can come up with a better name for this section, please do change it. I belive the separation is necessary tho; the three last paragraphs of the costumes section are clearly about the media response to the costumes, not the costumes themselves. Pasi 00:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
-- The part where it says there appear four men and one woman in the Luthianian video is wrong. The video shows five men. - SWEVEN
I think we need to work on the article's lead. Problems: - "They are mostly known for their unusual monster costumes and lyrical themes." This isn't really true anymore. True, the next sentence mentions the Eurovision Song Contest but it's a new paragraph. I'd like to find a way to say that the contest introduced Lordi to a lot of people who had not heard about them earlier. All this needs to maintain a NPOV of course. - "Some controversy with the band does exist, however. Many members of the metal community see Lordi's use of monster costumes as a knockoff of the band GWAR, which has used similar costumes for years." This doesn't really belong to the lead, does it?
Also, what happened to the controversy section? Nothing in talk, no relevant subjects in history? Pasi 15:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
"Let it be noted that Lordi probably got all their inspiration from Shock Rock group GWAR." doesn't (in my opinion) maintain a NPOV. I edited it a bit but the GWAR bit is still lacking reference. Pasi 19:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
(Ugh, I've soon started half of these subtopics on the talk page. Someone stop me)
There seems to be a minor edit was going on about the band's genre. Someone might categorise some of it as vandalism, but let's assume good faith: can't we simply have all heavy metal, glam rock and hard rock listed as genres? It's not like Lordi would be the first band in Wikipedia with several genres. There definitely are aspects of all these genres in Lordi's music. Editing back and forth between them is going to just confuse people and make Wikipedia look silly.
There's a reason the infobox says "Genre(s)". My 'proposal' is to leave the lead as it is ("Lordi is a heavy metal band") and list the other genres in the infobox. It's not like there's an Ultimate Authority that categorises music and will say the final word. Pasi 09:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Umm, who is G-stealer? I haven't ever heard of him and I Google is not helping. Could someone verify that he really exists? 80.186.62.184 13:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Centurion Ry 19:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Several people have been insisting to me that Lordi are a christian band. I haven't seen any reliable source for or against this, but I've been told that they said so on their official site. Can someone verify or disprove this information, please? Iron C hris | (talk) 14:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
In fact I really miss some information on christian-conservative criticism and arousal. Should be relevant, because it almost made Lordi be replaced by another band in the EuroVisionContest, but I don't know that for sure (It was in the German Wikipedia).-- StalkerAT 11:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Please see Lordi is not a satanistic band, lower in this forum.
The members are christian, the only songs that can be though of to be chirstian are probably "Hard Rock Hallelujah" and "Devil is a Loser".
A request has been made that the article Blood red sandman be merged with this page. I didn't add the tag, I just found it. Discuss. -- Rayc 18:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Can someone add this link : http://lordi-france.fr.tc Its a french lordi homepage. thanks ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.250.199.123 ( talk • contribs) 09:24, July 16, 2006 (UTC)
How about adding http://www.lordifans.com then? It's a fairly large US based Lordi fansite. Herrinz 02:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Lordi has commented, that if they were an satanistic band. They would not have made tracks like Devil is a loser and Hard Rock Hallelujah. Hit it!
Someone knowledgeable should add to the article about mr. Lordi playing Santa Claus on Finnish television.
The names are unverified information. They are simply rumors from the same newspapers that came up with the Children of Bodom pics and thus have proven to be unreliable. Wikipedia is not a collection of rumors. Until there is exact proof of the names they don't belong here. -- 80.200.86.25 14:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I still don't see any references which prove it's their names anywhere in the article after reading it completely through as Sarah seemed to point at. Any more detailed point to where is the reference for their names? -- Mr0x 15:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
? Do I know better? I don't know their real names, neither do I care to know. But I do know better than to pollute the Wiki with unverified information. "To the best of our knowledge" for some reason I don't recall being a valid source. -- Mr0x 15:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
What I was referring to earlier, burden of evidence, apparently is a rule on Wikipedia itself even. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence and Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence_in_biographies_of_living_persons The part afterwards, about unreliable sources specifically mentions tabloids also, like the ones the pictures are from, and thus I -assume- until a better source is given, also the "real names" -- Mr0x 16:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll try to look for sources for the other names, but at least Mr. Lordi's name has been stated in numerous articles in reputable newspapers ( Helsingin Sanomat for one) and on many interviews. I would imagine the others have as well. Pasi 17:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
A request has now also been made to merge the newly-created Devil is a Loser with this article. - Blood red sandman 16:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
A request has also been made to merge this with Who's Your daddy? (Lordi song). Discuss. - Blood red sandman 14:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Seriously, can we do something about these numerous merge notices on the top of the article? We should either decide to merge (them all) or not merge. It looks silly to have a plethora of merge notices appear there for every single viewer of the page. Pasi 23:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Someone has taken the tag off Devil is a Loser. - Blood red sandman 06:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Devil Is a Loser and Blood Red Sandman merge tags. Devil is a Loser tag was removed from the original article, and BRS has been there over a month. I'll remove the last one on 18th unless there's a sudden uprising. Pasi 14:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)