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My fault for not spotting this article yesterday, otherwise I would have moved it rather than creating a parallel article at Speaker of the House of Lords. Which article should be merged into the other? Schedule 6 of the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 uses the term Speaker of the House of Lords not Lord Speaker. However, I see this page uses both terms, and there is some discussion in this PDF. The discussion in this Hansard extract is also fascinating. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Speaker of the House of Lords article should now be redirected automatically to this article. David.
Surely when the merge was made the wrong title was chosen? I presume that just as the "speaker of the house of commons" is referred to as "Mr/Madam Speaker" so likewise will the "speaker of the house of lords" (or perhaps "lord speaker of the house of lords") only be referred to as "the lord speaker." Shouldn't this article's title be analagous to Speaker of the House of Commons, and refer to the office's actual name, not the familiarized form? Doops 20:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I repeat my earlier objection: shouldn't this page be at Lord Speaker of the House of Lords (or possibly just Speaker of the House of Lords)? Surely "Lord Speaker" will just be his form of address and the moniker he's known by in the house itself; but that doesn't make it a suitable title for an article. cf Mister Speaker and Speaker of the House of Commons. Doops | talk 16:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
The position of Lord Speaker is about to become a reality - BBC News - Lord Speaker David 19:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Please see the following PDF document for the official information about the role and office of Lord Speaker.
David 19:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Is a woman holding the office of 'Lord Speaker' to be refered to as 'Lady Speaker'? Or does it stay Lord Speaker (like Lord Mayor)? ( Alphaboi867 06:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC))
Has the Lord Speaker been officially added to the United Kingdom order of precedence? Surely such an office would end up being quite high up the order, at least being about the same as the Speaker of the Commons? David 18:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
This really, definitely, certainly does not belong at this title. This point has been raised several times above but no one has moved the article. We don't have the Commons Speaker at Mister Speaker. This should be moved to Speaker of the House of Lords, so can someone do it now please? 86.136.0.145 22:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the research, you've set out a good case. I can see now that it would be better to wait until usage is established in this area, once people have had time to get used to the new arrangements. 86.136.0.145 12:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"The Lord Speaker will assume most of the duties that the Lord Chancellor used to have in relation to his Parliamentary role, including ceremonial duties such as the State Opening of Parliament."
Now that there has been a State Opening of Parliament since the first Lord Speaker was elected, what role did she play at the event? I'm pretty sure the Lord Chancellor handed the Queen the Speach. I didn't really see the Lord Speaker at all. David 21:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
There is plenty on what she does not do (call the house to order, rule on procedure) but very little on what she does. Is the article lacking or does she actually have very little to do. Elsewhere it is suggested that she doesn't even do much at the opening.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.206.112.162 ( talk) 14:39, 20 April 2007
I think there was also a Lord Speaker for a limited period during the Interregnum. Could this be clarified, and if so added. PatGallacher ( talk) 01:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I heard that the speaker is elected in an early period of a new parliament, but the term limit is 5 years. When is the next election, soon (because of the general eletion) or in the summer of 2011 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.3.134 ( talk) 07:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a reference in Sir Robert Atkyns to his holding the post of 'Speaker of the House of Lords' at the end of the 17th century. Therefore the office has been existed in the past. Ender's Shadow Snr ( talk) 22:52, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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Someone has gone back and added LC's as 'Lord Speaker' in an unknown number f articles. see William_Murray,_1st_Earl_of_Mansfield under political offices. This needs stopping if people see it. The LC presided but was not LS Garlicplanting ( talk) 13:36, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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My fault for not spotting this article yesterday, otherwise I would have moved it rather than creating a parallel article at Speaker of the House of Lords. Which article should be merged into the other? Schedule 6 of the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 uses the term Speaker of the House of Lords not Lord Speaker. However, I see this page uses both terms, and there is some discussion in this PDF. The discussion in this Hansard extract is also fascinating. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Speaker of the House of Lords article should now be redirected automatically to this article. David.
Surely when the merge was made the wrong title was chosen? I presume that just as the "speaker of the house of commons" is referred to as "Mr/Madam Speaker" so likewise will the "speaker of the house of lords" (or perhaps "lord speaker of the house of lords") only be referred to as "the lord speaker." Shouldn't this article's title be analagous to Speaker of the House of Commons, and refer to the office's actual name, not the familiarized form? Doops 20:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I repeat my earlier objection: shouldn't this page be at Lord Speaker of the House of Lords (or possibly just Speaker of the House of Lords)? Surely "Lord Speaker" will just be his form of address and the moniker he's known by in the house itself; but that doesn't make it a suitable title for an article. cf Mister Speaker and Speaker of the House of Commons. Doops | talk 16:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
The position of Lord Speaker is about to become a reality - BBC News - Lord Speaker David 19:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Please see the following PDF document for the official information about the role and office of Lord Speaker.
David 19:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Is a woman holding the office of 'Lord Speaker' to be refered to as 'Lady Speaker'? Or does it stay Lord Speaker (like Lord Mayor)? ( Alphaboi867 06:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC))
Has the Lord Speaker been officially added to the United Kingdom order of precedence? Surely such an office would end up being quite high up the order, at least being about the same as the Speaker of the Commons? David 18:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
This really, definitely, certainly does not belong at this title. This point has been raised several times above but no one has moved the article. We don't have the Commons Speaker at Mister Speaker. This should be moved to Speaker of the House of Lords, so can someone do it now please? 86.136.0.145 22:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the research, you've set out a good case. I can see now that it would be better to wait until usage is established in this area, once people have had time to get used to the new arrangements. 86.136.0.145 12:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"The Lord Speaker will assume most of the duties that the Lord Chancellor used to have in relation to his Parliamentary role, including ceremonial duties such as the State Opening of Parliament."
Now that there has been a State Opening of Parliament since the first Lord Speaker was elected, what role did she play at the event? I'm pretty sure the Lord Chancellor handed the Queen the Speach. I didn't really see the Lord Speaker at all. David 21:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
There is plenty on what she does not do (call the house to order, rule on procedure) but very little on what she does. Is the article lacking or does she actually have very little to do. Elsewhere it is suggested that she doesn't even do much at the opening.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.206.112.162 ( talk) 14:39, 20 April 2007
I think there was also a Lord Speaker for a limited period during the Interregnum. Could this be clarified, and if so added. PatGallacher ( talk) 01:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I heard that the speaker is elected in an early period of a new parliament, but the term limit is 5 years. When is the next election, soon (because of the general eletion) or in the summer of 2011 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.3.134 ( talk) 07:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a reference in Sir Robert Atkyns to his holding the post of 'Speaker of the House of Lords' at the end of the 17th century. Therefore the office has been existed in the past. Ender's Shadow Snr ( talk) 22:52, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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Someone has gone back and added LC's as 'Lord Speaker' in an unknown number f articles. see William_Murray,_1st_Earl_of_Mansfield under political offices. This needs stopping if people see it. The LC presided but was not LS Garlicplanting ( talk) 13:36, 9 June 2019 (UTC)