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I would just like to say that I went on a cruise in 1975, on the Oriana. We were supposed to go to Vila and Noumea but as we left Sydney Harbour we followed a hurricane all the way to Vila it was a mess when we arrived. Noumea was a little better. By way of compensation the cruise was detoured to circumnavigate Lord Howe Island and Ball's Pyramid. I will never forget the amazing sight as this massive blue spire/pyramid grew ever larger on the horizon. It is a truly spectacular and amazing sight in the middle of the ocean. I would recommend this as a must to anyone who travels to Lord Howe Island. L.I.Boundy 26/03/2006
The article claims that Lord Howe Island has the most Southern coral reefs in the world -- is this really true (or just a little bit true)? I've seen the same claim made for Rottnest Island, lattitude 32°0′35″S vs Lord Howe's 37°.
The page includes "Timezone: UTC+10:30 (+11:00 DST)".
I believe that the Island is currently unique in having Summer Time with a shift other than one hour. That seems interesting enough, if carefully verified, to be worth stating as such in the text.
82.163.24.100 13:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it Lord /hau/ or Lord /hou/? kwami 23:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Article needs info on things other than environment before it can pass: govt rule, demographics, religion, schools/hospitals on the island etc YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
And what sort of a references are Hutton, Coleman or Flannery? The citations need improving. Polargeo ( talk) 22:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the slow initial progress on the review; unfortunately I was not been able to do any work on wikipedia over the weekend.
This appears to be a competent article, which stands a reasonable chance of making it through to GA-status. I think I needs a bit more work in several places; and I'll list these points tomorrow. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The article appears to be well-written and generally well-referenced. However there are a number of unreferenced statements, so I'm just going to concentrate on them for the moment.
I'm putting the article On Hold for these points to be addressed. If you have any questions about this assessment, add them to this page and I will answer them on this page. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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This is obviously the preliminary assessment to see where we need to focus our attentions (since I've also made a lot of "random" suggestions!).
Having recently been there, there are a few things that we saw/heard that should be in this article. I shall list them here first as bullet points and then if no-one objects, will put them into the main article. In no particular order, here goes:
The RAAF Catalina that crashed in 1949, the remnants of which form a tourist item. Either somewhat expanded in "History", or a brief mention in "Tourist Facility", or both.
The controversy regarding the building of the airport, the effects of the airport on tourism and the local ecology, and the management of the resulting expansion of tourism.
" ... no daytime sharks off the beaches" . Well, we saw a Blacktip reef shark at Ned's Beach, I think that he means no dangerous sharks.
The unsuccessful introduction of the owl as a predator on the rats, with a bit of detail as to what actually happened. Old_Wombat ( talk) 10:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
How about three lines each at most? Old_Wombat ( talk) 02:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree with all you say and will follow your suggestions. I will put the suggested texts here first and then everyone can kick them to death first. Whatever survives can then go into the article Old_Wombat ( talk) 09:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I put in the one word into the shark article as per your suggestion. The rest will have to wait for a week or so. Old_Wombat ( talk) 09:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
The time zone on Lord Howe Island is Lord Howe Standard Time (UTC + 10.5 hours) from the 1st Sunday of April to the 1st Sunday of October and Lord Howe Summer Time (UTC + 11 hours) from the 1st Sunday of October to the 1st Sunday of April. Of all of the places in the world that switch to Daylight Saving Time/ Summer Time each year, Lord Howe Island is the only place where the current Summer Time offset is not one hour. [1]
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Key points: Rats have had a significant impact on flora and fauna on Lord Howe Island. In recent times a major rat eradication program was carried out. Since then there has been significant improvements for fauna and fauna.
Quoting:The last rat seen on Lord Howe Island was sniffed out by a detector dog about 15 months ago not long after a sometimes controversial program to rid the island of an estimated 200,000 of the vermin began.
The change in the little island since the rats disappeared has been spectacular, says Terry O’Dwyer, a biologist who worked on the program.
Shoots are now covering sections of the island’s forest floor and its famed Kentia palms are heavy with fruit.
Most significantly there has been a rebound in the numbers of Lord Howe’s flightless woodhen, which was pushed towards extinction by the rats that competed with it for food and even preyed on its eggs and young.
Fears that the woodhen might succumb to the baiting program that was carried out between June and July in 2019 caused some islanders to campaign against the effort, and prompted scientists to capture and keep them in captivity as the rats were being exterminated.
“We knew they were going to be all right as soon as we released them,” Dr O’Dwyer said. “They started copulating before they were out of sight.”
In a recent survey 440 of the hens were counted, twice the number of the previous count a year earlier.
Feral animals have already caused the extinction of six bird species including the Lord Howe Island fantail, white-eye, gerygone, starling and thrush, as well as 13 invertebrates and two plant species. Since rats scurried ashore from a shipwreck in 1918, they have caused or contributed to the extinction.
The impact of the eradication has stunned some observers.
“It has blown me away,” tour operator Jack Shick said. “I was a huge supporter of [the eradication] but I am in disbelief at what I am seeing. There are more birds, there are berries on the trees and insects are coming back. We are hearing crickets calling again at night. I remember that sound from when I was a kid.
“The thing that excites me is that there is no one alive on Lord Howe who can tell us what it was like before the rats came, so there is a new discovery around every corner.”
It will take longer to assess the impact on larger animals, but, said Dr O’Dwyer, the breeding success rate of petrels on the island has jumped from 2 or 3 per cent to more than 70 per cent.
Eradication programs of invasive species on islands have become a key tool against the global extinction crisis. The Database of Island Invasive Species Eradications has tracked 2000 programs between 1950 and 2019.
The $15.5 million Lord Howe Island program involved intensive ground and aerial baiting in 2019, supported by ongoing monitoring and ramped-up quarantine measures.
“This is an extraordinary example of a community conservation effort backed by world-leading science,” said NSW Environment Minister Matt Kean, who visited the island last week.
It is expected that the island will be declared rodent free later this year, two years after the baiting was finished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.207.105 ( talk) 01:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Great article! Thank you to all who have contributed.
Do the permanent residents, descendants of the very limited number of original settlers for six generations according to the article, suffer from genetic diseases due to the limited gene pool similar to the Amish? I imagine permanent immigration is not permitted. However, are residents permitted to settle their spouses on the island if they marry an outsider? HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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I would just like to say that I went on a cruise in 1975, on the Oriana. We were supposed to go to Vila and Noumea but as we left Sydney Harbour we followed a hurricane all the way to Vila it was a mess when we arrived. Noumea was a little better. By way of compensation the cruise was detoured to circumnavigate Lord Howe Island and Ball's Pyramid. I will never forget the amazing sight as this massive blue spire/pyramid grew ever larger on the horizon. It is a truly spectacular and amazing sight in the middle of the ocean. I would recommend this as a must to anyone who travels to Lord Howe Island. L.I.Boundy 26/03/2006
The article claims that Lord Howe Island has the most Southern coral reefs in the world -- is this really true (or just a little bit true)? I've seen the same claim made for Rottnest Island, lattitude 32°0′35″S vs Lord Howe's 37°.
The page includes "Timezone: UTC+10:30 (+11:00 DST)".
I believe that the Island is currently unique in having Summer Time with a shift other than one hour. That seems interesting enough, if carefully verified, to be worth stating as such in the text.
82.163.24.100 13:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it Lord /hau/ or Lord /hou/? kwami 23:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Article needs info on things other than environment before it can pass: govt rule, demographics, religion, schools/hospitals on the island etc YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
And what sort of a references are Hutton, Coleman or Flannery? The citations need improving. Polargeo ( talk) 22:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the slow initial progress on the review; unfortunately I was not been able to do any work on wikipedia over the weekend.
This appears to be a competent article, which stands a reasonable chance of making it through to GA-status. I think I needs a bit more work in several places; and I'll list these points tomorrow. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The article appears to be well-written and generally well-referenced. However there are a number of unreferenced statements, so I'm just going to concentrate on them for the moment.
I'm putting the article On Hold for these points to be addressed. If you have any questions about this assessment, add them to this page and I will answer them on this page. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
A god article that is quite close to being a GA, but not just yet.
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This is obviously the preliminary assessment to see where we need to focus our attentions (since I've also made a lot of "random" suggestions!).
Having recently been there, there are a few things that we saw/heard that should be in this article. I shall list them here first as bullet points and then if no-one objects, will put them into the main article. In no particular order, here goes:
The RAAF Catalina that crashed in 1949, the remnants of which form a tourist item. Either somewhat expanded in "History", or a brief mention in "Tourist Facility", or both.
The controversy regarding the building of the airport, the effects of the airport on tourism and the local ecology, and the management of the resulting expansion of tourism.
" ... no daytime sharks off the beaches" . Well, we saw a Blacktip reef shark at Ned's Beach, I think that he means no dangerous sharks.
The unsuccessful introduction of the owl as a predator on the rats, with a bit of detail as to what actually happened. Old_Wombat ( talk) 10:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
How about three lines each at most? Old_Wombat ( talk) 02:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree with all you say and will follow your suggestions. I will put the suggested texts here first and then everyone can kick them to death first. Whatever survives can then go into the article Old_Wombat ( talk) 09:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I put in the one word into the shark article as per your suggestion. The rest will have to wait for a week or so. Old_Wombat ( talk) 09:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
The time zone on Lord Howe Island is Lord Howe Standard Time (UTC + 10.5 hours) from the 1st Sunday of April to the 1st Sunday of October and Lord Howe Summer Time (UTC + 11 hours) from the 1st Sunday of October to the 1st Sunday of April. Of all of the places in the world that switch to Daylight Saving Time/ Summer Time each year, Lord Howe Island is the only place where the current Summer Time offset is not one hour. [1]
HankW512 ( talk) 16:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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Key points: Rats have had a significant impact on flora and fauna on Lord Howe Island. In recent times a major rat eradication program was carried out. Since then there has been significant improvements for fauna and fauna.
Quoting:The last rat seen on Lord Howe Island was sniffed out by a detector dog about 15 months ago not long after a sometimes controversial program to rid the island of an estimated 200,000 of the vermin began.
The change in the little island since the rats disappeared has been spectacular, says Terry O’Dwyer, a biologist who worked on the program.
Shoots are now covering sections of the island’s forest floor and its famed Kentia palms are heavy with fruit.
Most significantly there has been a rebound in the numbers of Lord Howe’s flightless woodhen, which was pushed towards extinction by the rats that competed with it for food and even preyed on its eggs and young.
Fears that the woodhen might succumb to the baiting program that was carried out between June and July in 2019 caused some islanders to campaign against the effort, and prompted scientists to capture and keep them in captivity as the rats were being exterminated.
“We knew they were going to be all right as soon as we released them,” Dr O’Dwyer said. “They started copulating before they were out of sight.”
In a recent survey 440 of the hens were counted, twice the number of the previous count a year earlier.
Feral animals have already caused the extinction of six bird species including the Lord Howe Island fantail, white-eye, gerygone, starling and thrush, as well as 13 invertebrates and two plant species. Since rats scurried ashore from a shipwreck in 1918, they have caused or contributed to the extinction.
The impact of the eradication has stunned some observers.
“It has blown me away,” tour operator Jack Shick said. “I was a huge supporter of [the eradication] but I am in disbelief at what I am seeing. There are more birds, there are berries on the trees and insects are coming back. We are hearing crickets calling again at night. I remember that sound from when I was a kid.
“The thing that excites me is that there is no one alive on Lord Howe who can tell us what it was like before the rats came, so there is a new discovery around every corner.”
It will take longer to assess the impact on larger animals, but, said Dr O’Dwyer, the breeding success rate of petrels on the island has jumped from 2 or 3 per cent to more than 70 per cent.
Eradication programs of invasive species on islands have become a key tool against the global extinction crisis. The Database of Island Invasive Species Eradications has tracked 2000 programs between 1950 and 2019.
The $15.5 million Lord Howe Island program involved intensive ground and aerial baiting in 2019, supported by ongoing monitoring and ramped-up quarantine measures.
“This is an extraordinary example of a community conservation effort backed by world-leading science,” said NSW Environment Minister Matt Kean, who visited the island last week.
It is expected that the island will be declared rodent free later this year, two years after the baiting was finished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.207.105 ( talk) 01:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Great article! Thank you to all who have contributed.
Do the permanent residents, descendants of the very limited number of original settlers for six generations according to the article, suffer from genetic diseases due to the limited gene pool similar to the Amish? I imagine permanent immigration is not permitted. However, are residents permitted to settle their spouses on the island if they marry an outsider? HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)