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How are Lord Lientenants appointed?
I agree that it should be "lords lieutenant" and here are some sources:
Mooretwin ( talk) 14:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I come late to the argument but as the official web site of the British monarchy, the British government and the Association of Lord-Lieutenants all use the hyphenated form and Lord-Lieutenants for the plural I thought that would be pretty definitive Cannonmc ( talk) 11:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I meant to add that Wikipedia is not consistent, even this article uses two versions and it would be almost impossible to correct all the links as most of them seem to use Lord Lieutenant rather than Lord-Lieutenant Cannonmc ( talk) 11:31, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I note that
The Lord-Lieutenants (Scotland) Order 1996, OPSI website, referenced in the article, seems not to include the schedules to the order, and it is those schedules which would define the lieutenancy areas.
Laurel Bush (
talk) 14:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers
Laurel Bush (
talk) 10:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC).
Years ago I read that Lord Simcoe (as colonial governor) tried to establish an aristocracy in British North America. The title Lord Lieutenant was issued to members of the province's Legislative Council (upper house). Can't seem to find this anywhere - assistance appreciated in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.233.33 ( talk) 15:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia Project template for this article, the list of Lord Lieutenants, and for Custos rotulorum and the list for Custos rotulorum was a puzzle for me, and American (Anglophile, but still...), but I have decided that the Royalty template here can be applied to all of those articles. The Lord Lieutenants are appointed by the Sovereign, and the Custos rotulorum were in many cases appointed by the Sovereign.
Anyone who decided differently, please say why and make the change. Politics does not appear to be an issue, but perhaps I am wrong about that. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 16:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Will anyone editing this article please keep in mind that there is never a hyphen in "Lord Lieutenant"? Thankyou! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.163.237.43 ( talk) 07:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Whadjyamean, no hyphens? These geezers act on behalf of the Queen and she can call them what she likes. Hyphens rule - OK? -- Damorbel ( talk) 08:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry but all my reliable references - the Queen, the Prime Minister, the Lord Chancellor, my Lord-Lieutenant and the Association of Lord-Lieutenants - insist that there is always a hyphen Cannonmc ( talk) 11:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I looked up The Order of Precedence in England & Wales, but I can't see what precedence Lords Lieutenant hold. If I had to guess i'd would assume it would be the same as the monarch. If someone knows this it would be a useful addition to the article. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 11:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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In the following sources, the office of Lord-lieutenant is hyphenated. I propose that this page and relevant linked pages (specifically the lord-lieutenants pages for each county) should be moved to be hyphenated. I would like to gather a consensus before carrying out the move.
iComputer SaysNo 21:15, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
The first sentence of the England and Wales section seems to lose its way: "Lieutenants were first appointed to a number of English counties by King Henry VIII in the 1540s, when the military functions of the sheriff were handed over to him." It appears that "him" refers here to each lieutenant not to the king, though the king is the only singular antecedent in the sentence. The section goes on in the singular - can one of the page authors clear up the confusing syntax? Billfalls ( talk) 04:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
The Manual of Style is quite clear - titles of offices, in the general sense, are written in lowercase on Wikipedia. Mauls ( talk) 15:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Moved as proposed. There is clear consensus for the change in capitalization, and there is some support, and no specific objection, for the hyphenation. bd2412 T 02:23, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Lord Lieutenant → Lord-lieutenant – Wikipedia Manual of Style states that names of positions, which this is should be written in lowercase. All official sources use a hyphen for the name, this was previously discussed for a previous move and no discussion was given to to support the move to a non-hyphenated form. Mauls ( talk) 15:12, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
<quote>As the sovereign's representative in his or her county, a lord-lieutenant remains non-political and may not hold office in any political party. </quote>
But of course this hasn't always been true. Early in the last century, there were definitely Lord-lieutenants who held political office during their tenure - the 8th and 9th dukes of Devonshire, for instance. When did this change? john k ( talk) 04:50, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Would someone gifted at copyright issues please have a look at the section Duties, as the bullet points and subsequent sentence seem to be very similar to the corresponding passage on this external website? Thank you! OJH ( talk) 20:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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How are Lord Lientenants appointed?
I agree that it should be "lords lieutenant" and here are some sources:
Mooretwin ( talk) 14:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I come late to the argument but as the official web site of the British monarchy, the British government and the Association of Lord-Lieutenants all use the hyphenated form and Lord-Lieutenants for the plural I thought that would be pretty definitive Cannonmc ( talk) 11:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I meant to add that Wikipedia is not consistent, even this article uses two versions and it would be almost impossible to correct all the links as most of them seem to use Lord Lieutenant rather than Lord-Lieutenant Cannonmc ( talk) 11:31, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I note that
The Lord-Lieutenants (Scotland) Order 1996, OPSI website, referenced in the article, seems not to include the schedules to the order, and it is those schedules which would define the lieutenancy areas.
Laurel Bush (
talk) 14:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers
Laurel Bush (
talk) 10:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC).
Years ago I read that Lord Simcoe (as colonial governor) tried to establish an aristocracy in British North America. The title Lord Lieutenant was issued to members of the province's Legislative Council (upper house). Can't seem to find this anywhere - assistance appreciated in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.233.33 ( talk) 15:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia Project template for this article, the list of Lord Lieutenants, and for Custos rotulorum and the list for Custos rotulorum was a puzzle for me, and American (Anglophile, but still...), but I have decided that the Royalty template here can be applied to all of those articles. The Lord Lieutenants are appointed by the Sovereign, and the Custos rotulorum were in many cases appointed by the Sovereign.
Anyone who decided differently, please say why and make the change. Politics does not appear to be an issue, but perhaps I am wrong about that. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 16:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Will anyone editing this article please keep in mind that there is never a hyphen in "Lord Lieutenant"? Thankyou! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.163.237.43 ( talk) 07:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Whadjyamean, no hyphens? These geezers act on behalf of the Queen and she can call them what she likes. Hyphens rule - OK? -- Damorbel ( talk) 08:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry but all my reliable references - the Queen, the Prime Minister, the Lord Chancellor, my Lord-Lieutenant and the Association of Lord-Lieutenants - insist that there is always a hyphen Cannonmc ( talk) 11:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I looked up The Order of Precedence in England & Wales, but I can't see what precedence Lords Lieutenant hold. If I had to guess i'd would assume it would be the same as the monarch. If someone knows this it would be a useful addition to the article. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 11:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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In the following sources, the office of Lord-lieutenant is hyphenated. I propose that this page and relevant linked pages (specifically the lord-lieutenants pages for each county) should be moved to be hyphenated. I would like to gather a consensus before carrying out the move.
iComputer SaysNo 21:15, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
The first sentence of the England and Wales section seems to lose its way: "Lieutenants were first appointed to a number of English counties by King Henry VIII in the 1540s, when the military functions of the sheriff were handed over to him." It appears that "him" refers here to each lieutenant not to the king, though the king is the only singular antecedent in the sentence. The section goes on in the singular - can one of the page authors clear up the confusing syntax? Billfalls ( talk) 04:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
The Manual of Style is quite clear - titles of offices, in the general sense, are written in lowercase on Wikipedia. Mauls ( talk) 15:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Moved as proposed. There is clear consensus for the change in capitalization, and there is some support, and no specific objection, for the hyphenation. bd2412 T 02:23, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Lord Lieutenant → Lord-lieutenant – Wikipedia Manual of Style states that names of positions, which this is should be written in lowercase. All official sources use a hyphen for the name, this was previously discussed for a previous move and no discussion was given to to support the move to a non-hyphenated form. Mauls ( talk) 15:12, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
<quote>As the sovereign's representative in his or her county, a lord-lieutenant remains non-political and may not hold office in any political party. </quote>
But of course this hasn't always been true. Early in the last century, there were definitely Lord-lieutenants who held political office during their tenure - the 8th and 9th dukes of Devonshire, for instance. When did this change? john k ( talk) 04:50, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Would someone gifted at copyright issues please have a look at the section Duties, as the bullet points and subsequent sentence seem to be very similar to the corresponding passage on this external website? Thank you! OJH ( talk) 20:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)