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This list was moved from Musical theater. This list needs to be wikified! -- Samuel Wantman 23:11, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion on this list? Instead of "notable", which has a pretty low bar on Wikipedia, what if we say "important"? Here's a For instance: Flower Drum Song. Sure, it's "notable", but it's not particularly important in the development or history of the musical. But it's an "also ran" compared to most other R&H musicals. It's less interesting as an "Asian" musical than, say, "Pacific Overtures" or even "M" Butterfly. I say, cut FDS. Fantasticks wasn't on the list. I added it.
What about:
Can we arrive at a consensus on what ought to be on or off the list? -- Ssilvers 08:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Why not jsut make a seperate page for the West End becasue I really jsut want to see New York's performance numbers.
Because Broadway and the West End are so different, shouldn't we have different pages or at least different sections or lists for Broadway and West End Shows?
Agreed. [Added by anonymous user: 218.186.8.10]
Disagree: How are they different? -- Ssilvers 15:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
We need to say something about each show (other than the ones on the longest-running list) to explain why it is particularly notable, such as listing very popular numbers, and noting if it is very frequently revived or any other items that make it notable. Also, some shows still need composer and author info. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC).
This list doesn't make any sense at all. If the production is notable, then it's in Wikipedia, and this list is redundant. If it is remarkable for some other reason, that reason is mentioned on the specific article. If someone wants to know specifics about long-running musicals, there are sources for that elsewhere. This list is "hey, put the show you like on this list!" I'll probably nominate this for deletion. — Music Maker 03:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I'll work on this. Note however, that most of the entries on the (bottom half of the) list are justified by the criteria of having won the Tony Award for Best Musical or the Olivier Award for Outstanding New Musical. I don't think we need multiple cites to the Tony Awards and Olivier Awards websites. If anyone wants to help, by the way, I would welcome the help. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 05:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I won't nominate it as long as we start getting it to something... you know... good. And I'll certainly help. But, frankly, your entire argument amounts to "it needs some work, but this is the best it can be". If that's true, this thing has to go. I think, if we're gonna keep it, we need to do a little thinking outside of the box as to how we're going to do it. I'm going to leave it alone for now, as there are a couple other WPMT-related tasks I want to get through (orphaning infobox 2, going thru the categories, afding a lotta crap thats out there...) Once I'm done with all that, if you have some organizational system to implement, I'll help, and I'll be happy to give imput along the way.
Maybe a table would help. We could just alphabetize the articles, number of shows for each production on either side of the Atlantic, it's rank, etc.... I know markup scares you, but hit my talk page with a list of columns you'd want to see represented, and I'll see what we can do. —
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09:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Surely Broadway and the West End are not the only places on the planet that produce musicals? Has no-one ever performed a musical in Paris or Berlin or Las Vegas? What is the longest running musical outside of NY/London? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.13.140 ( talk) 11:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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This list was moved from Musical theater. This list needs to be wikified! -- Samuel Wantman 23:11, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What are the criteria for inclusion on this list? Instead of "notable", which has a pretty low bar on Wikipedia, what if we say "important"? Here's a For instance: Flower Drum Song. Sure, it's "notable", but it's not particularly important in the development or history of the musical. But it's an "also ran" compared to most other R&H musicals. It's less interesting as an "Asian" musical than, say, "Pacific Overtures" or even "M" Butterfly. I say, cut FDS. Fantasticks wasn't on the list. I added it.
What about:
Can we arrive at a consensus on what ought to be on or off the list? -- Ssilvers 08:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Why not jsut make a seperate page for the West End becasue I really jsut want to see New York's performance numbers.
Because Broadway and the West End are so different, shouldn't we have different pages or at least different sections or lists for Broadway and West End Shows?
Agreed. [Added by anonymous user: 218.186.8.10]
Disagree: How are they different? -- Ssilvers 15:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
We need to say something about each show (other than the ones on the longest-running list) to explain why it is particularly notable, such as listing very popular numbers, and noting if it is very frequently revived or any other items that make it notable. Also, some shows still need composer and author info. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC).
This list doesn't make any sense at all. If the production is notable, then it's in Wikipedia, and this list is redundant. If it is remarkable for some other reason, that reason is mentioned on the specific article. If someone wants to know specifics about long-running musicals, there are sources for that elsewhere. This list is "hey, put the show you like on this list!" I'll probably nominate this for deletion. — Music Maker 03:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I'll work on this. Note however, that most of the entries on the (bottom half of the) list are justified by the criteria of having won the Tony Award for Best Musical or the Olivier Award for Outstanding New Musical. I don't think we need multiple cites to the Tony Awards and Olivier Awards websites. If anyone wants to help, by the way, I would welcome the help. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 05:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I won't nominate it as long as we start getting it to something... you know... good. And I'll certainly help. But, frankly, your entire argument amounts to "it needs some work, but this is the best it can be". If that's true, this thing has to go. I think, if we're gonna keep it, we need to do a little thinking outside of the box as to how we're going to do it. I'm going to leave it alone for now, as there are a couple other WPMT-related tasks I want to get through (orphaning infobox 2, going thru the categories, afding a lotta crap thats out there...) Once I'm done with all that, if you have some organizational system to implement, I'll help, and I'll be happy to give imput along the way.
Maybe a table would help. We could just alphabetize the articles, number of shows for each production on either side of the Atlantic, it's rank, etc.... I know markup scares you, but hit my talk page with a list of columns you'd want to see represented, and I'll see what we can do. —
Music
Maker
09:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Surely Broadway and the West End are not the only places on the planet that produce musicals? Has no-one ever performed a musical in Paris or Berlin or Las Vegas? What is the longest running musical outside of NY/London? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.13.140 ( talk) 11:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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