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This section contains a number of errors (and I can't help thinking that large amounts of it are paraphrased from my website, cbrd.co.uk). For example, it claims much of Ringway 1 would have been elevated on concrete pylons like the Westway, when this is misleading. Large sections were sunken into trenches or in cut-and-cover tunnel to minimise their impact. The Ringway 1 map claims that the planned M11 was built as A12 - this is entirely incorrect, and the A12 between Hackney Wick and Redbridge opened in the 1990s is on an entirely different line to the planned M11.
There are various other errors too.
I have no objection to other resources on the internet covering the same topics as my website, but I am struggling to see what the articles here on Wikipedia are adding to the subject. --Chris Marshall, cbrd.co.uk 24/09/06
Thanks for your quick and considered reply. I think both our 'write-ups' of the subject came from the same thought - that this is a fascinating subject, key to London's development in the last few decades, that has received incredibly little exposure.
I should apologise if I went most of the way to accusing you of plagiarism - I accept that you have a range of other sources. There are various paragraphs in your articles that correlate to paragraphs on pages on my website and discuss similar themes in similar areas but I'm willing to believe this is the product of writing a history of the same topic with similar sources. (Great minds think alike, etc, or fools seldom differ if you prefer!)
As far as I'm concerned it's excellent that this topic is beginning to be publicised and discussed - something it deserves in my view - and it's not my intention to stifle alternative tellings of the story being made. My main concern is that your account appears very similar to my own, though I doubt that this is by design. I find myself wondering whether it greatly contributes to the information currently available. But all the same I can see that your articles are still a work in progress.
I hope you can see this concern in the way it is intended and not as a criticism of the work you've done - I appreciate only too well the sort of effort that is needed to compile reference information in your free time!
--Chris Marshall, cbrd.co.uk 25/09/06
The plans shown are effectively invisible, but important. It would be great if in due course they could be replaced with something more legible. Deipnosophista ( talk) 09:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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I proposed merging them into one London Ringways article because I don't think those pages' sizes are enough to keep them all as individual articles. Also the information on all pages are very interlinked. Just look at Ringway 3 for example, which is not only a short article but most of the first paragraph is directly copied from London Ringways. -- MetrolandNW ( talk) 13:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
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![]() | The contents of the Ringway 4 page were merged into London Ringways on 13 April 2020. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
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This section contains a number of errors (and I can't help thinking that large amounts of it are paraphrased from my website, cbrd.co.uk). For example, it claims much of Ringway 1 would have been elevated on concrete pylons like the Westway, when this is misleading. Large sections were sunken into trenches or in cut-and-cover tunnel to minimise their impact. The Ringway 1 map claims that the planned M11 was built as A12 - this is entirely incorrect, and the A12 between Hackney Wick and Redbridge opened in the 1990s is on an entirely different line to the planned M11.
There are various other errors too.
I have no objection to other resources on the internet covering the same topics as my website, but I am struggling to see what the articles here on Wikipedia are adding to the subject. --Chris Marshall, cbrd.co.uk 24/09/06
Thanks for your quick and considered reply. I think both our 'write-ups' of the subject came from the same thought - that this is a fascinating subject, key to London's development in the last few decades, that has received incredibly little exposure.
I should apologise if I went most of the way to accusing you of plagiarism - I accept that you have a range of other sources. There are various paragraphs in your articles that correlate to paragraphs on pages on my website and discuss similar themes in similar areas but I'm willing to believe this is the product of writing a history of the same topic with similar sources. (Great minds think alike, etc, or fools seldom differ if you prefer!)
As far as I'm concerned it's excellent that this topic is beginning to be publicised and discussed - something it deserves in my view - and it's not my intention to stifle alternative tellings of the story being made. My main concern is that your account appears very similar to my own, though I doubt that this is by design. I find myself wondering whether it greatly contributes to the information currently available. But all the same I can see that your articles are still a work in progress.
I hope you can see this concern in the way it is intended and not as a criticism of the work you've done - I appreciate only too well the sort of effort that is needed to compile reference information in your free time!
--Chris Marshall, cbrd.co.uk 25/09/06
The plans shown are effectively invisible, but important. It would be great if in due course they could be replaced with something more legible. Deipnosophista ( talk) 09:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 06:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
I proposed merging them into one London Ringways article because I don't think those pages' sizes are enough to keep them all as individual articles. Also the information on all pages are very interlinked. Just look at Ringway 3 for example, which is not only a short article but most of the first paragraph is directly copied from London Ringways. -- MetrolandNW ( talk) 13:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)