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"Marathi Manus a blog alleges ..." Anybody's allegations are not worth putting on a wiki page, the allegations must be by a notable individual or organization or printed in WP:RS newspaper etc. The blog does not establish it's notability, also is not a WP:RS. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I have again removed the section since it relies on a blog, which is not considered WP:RS. This is basic wikipedia policy, which cannot be contravened in order to provide, so-called, balance. Either find some criticism from a reliable source, or don't include it; there is no third option. Abecedare ( talk) 11:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I had suggested that the blog be read, the writer has no grudge, the blog compliments the activities of the LBP. Please check for yourself. I too have no grudge, I myself have been to LBP, I have read the three books written by the Vilas Manohar. I have a copy of the wonderful CD Aranyatil Prakashwata, I request guests to my house, who have the time to spend the 45 mins that the CD is long, to watch it. I have had personal interaction with Prakashbahu. What we need is a multi-dimensional description of an organisation. I found this blog while doing a Google search, it was the only one that has a few negative lines written about the project. That itself makes the blog notable. Moreover the blog states that the LBP school is excellent but should be open not just to the Madia but to Dalits too.
There are a million lines on wikipedia without citations, some go around with the citation needed tag for years. As responsible editors and not vandals, I hope that you who have removed the above insertions, would please put them back, the reference perhaps is not wikistandard, please find one instead of just taking the text you do not like off, this is in the interests of Wikipedia, if the reference is bad let it carry a citation needed tag. Please.
Please check the author tag of this article it says Wikipedia Contributers, and not Yogesh Khandke. Every one of us owns authorship, I have found something, I have put it in the article, the reference is not good, you find a reference which is good enough and not just remove what is written like a vandal. That is team work. Moreover it is a bad idea and prejudice to only target what one does not like. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 02:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Vithoba a FA status article carries an internal link to hero stone, which carries reference to a blog http://www.kamat.com/database/content/hero-stones/index.htm, rules are to be interpreted by how they are practiced. Is Kamat a peer reviewed source? Kamat is full of hearsay and opinions. If something is good for a FA article it must be so for one that is just beginning its life. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC) (comment moved here from Alumni section. Abecedare ( talk) 05:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted illustrious alumni to illustrious Madia Gond alumni, as that is what they are, Digant, Arti too are alumni of the school, but they are not on the list as they are not Madia Gond, the logic is that Digant did not become a doctor because of the opportunity the school provided, but the school opened doors to the Madia. I hope what I wish to communicate is clear. The other Madia achievers are there in the image, please if you can read put them on the list. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 03:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
All the references should be cited using an identical citation tag, I have used the tags but find them a little confusing at times, will somebody help in displaying all the references using an appropriate tag. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
This is a minor point but ...
So should we provide a link to LBP Official site in the External Links section ? Abecedare ( talk) 06:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
If Wikipedia articles about any organization etc., should link to the subject's official site means that it should be displayed as an external link, then I am wrong, the sarcasm and cockiness in which this thing is put forward points to the fact that I may have to eat my words. But I remember reading somewhere (wiki) that External References is a bad style, I may however be wrong. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
What wp:ELYES says
External links section If an article has external links, the standard format is to place them in a bulleted list under a primary heading at the end of the article. External links should identify the link and briefly summarize the website's contents and why the website is relevant to the article. The heading should be "External links" (plural) even if there is only a single link listed. If several external links are listed and the subject of the article is a living person, organization, web service, or otherwise has an official website, it is normal practice to place the link to that site at the top of the list (if it is not already in an appropriate infobox).
Hope the infobox is appropriate. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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"Marathi Manus a blog alleges ..." Anybody's allegations are not worth putting on a wiki page, the allegations must be by a notable individual or organization or printed in WP:RS newspaper etc. The blog does not establish it's notability, also is not a WP:RS. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I have again removed the section since it relies on a blog, which is not considered WP:RS. This is basic wikipedia policy, which cannot be contravened in order to provide, so-called, balance. Either find some criticism from a reliable source, or don't include it; there is no third option. Abecedare ( talk) 11:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I had suggested that the blog be read, the writer has no grudge, the blog compliments the activities of the LBP. Please check for yourself. I too have no grudge, I myself have been to LBP, I have read the three books written by the Vilas Manohar. I have a copy of the wonderful CD Aranyatil Prakashwata, I request guests to my house, who have the time to spend the 45 mins that the CD is long, to watch it. I have had personal interaction with Prakashbahu. What we need is a multi-dimensional description of an organisation. I found this blog while doing a Google search, it was the only one that has a few negative lines written about the project. That itself makes the blog notable. Moreover the blog states that the LBP school is excellent but should be open not just to the Madia but to Dalits too.
There are a million lines on wikipedia without citations, some go around with the citation needed tag for years. As responsible editors and not vandals, I hope that you who have removed the above insertions, would please put them back, the reference perhaps is not wikistandard, please find one instead of just taking the text you do not like off, this is in the interests of Wikipedia, if the reference is bad let it carry a citation needed tag. Please.
Please check the author tag of this article it says Wikipedia Contributers, and not Yogesh Khandke. Every one of us owns authorship, I have found something, I have put it in the article, the reference is not good, you find a reference which is good enough and not just remove what is written like a vandal. That is team work. Moreover it is a bad idea and prejudice to only target what one does not like. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 02:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Vithoba a FA status article carries an internal link to hero stone, which carries reference to a blog http://www.kamat.com/database/content/hero-stones/index.htm, rules are to be interpreted by how they are practiced. Is Kamat a peer reviewed source? Kamat is full of hearsay and opinions. If something is good for a FA article it must be so for one that is just beginning its life. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC) (comment moved here from Alumni section. Abecedare ( talk) 05:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted illustrious alumni to illustrious Madia Gond alumni, as that is what they are, Digant, Arti too are alumni of the school, but they are not on the list as they are not Madia Gond, the logic is that Digant did not become a doctor because of the opportunity the school provided, but the school opened doors to the Madia. I hope what I wish to communicate is clear. The other Madia achievers are there in the image, please if you can read put them on the list. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 03:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
All the references should be cited using an identical citation tag, I have used the tags but find them a little confusing at times, will somebody help in displaying all the references using an appropriate tag. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
This is a minor point but ...
So should we provide a link to LBP Official site in the External Links section ? Abecedare ( talk) 06:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
If Wikipedia articles about any organization etc., should link to the subject's official site means that it should be displayed as an external link, then I am wrong, the sarcasm and cockiness in which this thing is put forward points to the fact that I may have to eat my words. But I remember reading somewhere (wiki) that External References is a bad style, I may however be wrong. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
What wp:ELYES says
External links section If an article has external links, the standard format is to place them in a bulleted list under a primary heading at the end of the article. External links should identify the link and briefly summarize the website's contents and why the website is relevant to the article. The heading should be "External links" (plural) even if there is only a single link listed. If several external links are listed and the subject of the article is a living person, organization, web service, or otherwise has an official website, it is normal practice to place the link to that site at the top of the list (if it is not already in an appropriate infobox).
Hope the infobox is appropriate. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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