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I get it, "Lo-fi study beats" (LSB) is a popular meme. But lo-fi is so much wider than the LSB stereotype. To make a short overview of what this article totally omits, I'll outline the subgenres (or scenes, if you like) of lo-fi hip hop, that went completely unwritten about in the current article:
Curious thing about the current situation with the article is that if the musical journalists had any interest in lo-fi back then when it was creatively booming (in the mid-2010s) any guy remotely related to the scene would envisage everything I have said off the top of their head, cause the whole scene existed as one at the fingertips, mostly on soundcloud and bandcamp. Subgenres mentioned here existed merely as styles (with exception of, probably, psych-fi scene which was usually very self-contained), and you wouldn't be to surprised, hypothetically talking, to hear wuntwo (german minimalist), then ohbliv (soul-hop), then yotaro (psych-fi), then swum (psych-fi imitator), then borealism (chill-hop) on consequent "Radio Juicy" mixes.
But journalists only started caring about the scene when the creativity got watered down by "Lofi girl" and similar channels and these channels went viral for fun and giggles as a meme. Hence the lamenting of the "insufficient creativity" that is discussed in the current state of article. -- PDD
Hey, just hoping to open up some discussion about this. There was previously a lot of language in this article referencing the genre as being a "meme". However, the only source cited to back this claim was an article on MTV.com, which contained a single speculative thought from the author, "Lo-fi hip-hop might be a meme", with nothing cited to backup the claim that it is indeed a meme.
While I understand that lofi playlists may be part of meme culture, this doesn't seem to make the entire genre a "meme". Music across all genres have been associated with memes, from rock, to hip hop, to classical, jazz, and so on and so on, these genres are of course not memes because of this. The artist Drake, for example, is featured prominently in many popular internet meme formats. These images are memes, but Drake himself, I would argue, is a separate entity and not a meme.
I have since removed the references to it being a "meme" - it seems to clearly be a genre of music and I can't find any reliable sources that state otherwise. If there are editors who disagree about this, I would love to hear their thoughts. 173.88.250.97 ( talk) 16:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
However, lofi hip-hop’s oversaturation also pushes a critical outlook of the genre. It receives criticism from music consumers about almost anything and everything, from the hackneyed looped anime GIFs to the overuse of the same samples and drum swings. As eevee puts it, “It gets boring at some point if everyone sounds the same.” In a separate HYPEBEAST interview with Knxwledge, the producer admitted that he even finds himself questioning the lofi material he uploads on SoundCloud. “It’s funny. I guess it’s the new SoundCloud vibe-type sh*t. SoundCloud’s not even tight anymore,” he said. “I go on Soundcloud to post sh*t and I’m like, ‘Honestly why am I doing this?’”
Just hoping to have a discussion about this before I go crazy and do any edits. The lead was updated to include the statement,
"it has also been described as either a contemporary form of easy listening music or as a musical form sharing many tropes with earlier easy listening music."
With two cites, one a book, and the other a forbes article.
The Forbes article seems to cite a single person giving their opinion WRT a wide variety of genres, not just lo-fi hip hop, and doesn't give any examples of tropes shared with easy listening music. Likewise, the book citation does not give any examples of tropes shared with easy listening music and does not contain any explicit statements comparing LoFi hip hop to easy listening music.
Because of the lack of support in the citations for this statement, I would think it should be removed. This is because I believe it's giving undue weight to an opinion that does not have proper citations to support the claim. Curious what editors may think. 173.88.250.97 ( talk) 01:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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I get it, "Lo-fi study beats" (LSB) is a popular meme. But lo-fi is so much wider than the LSB stereotype. To make a short overview of what this article totally omits, I'll outline the subgenres (or scenes, if you like) of lo-fi hip hop, that went completely unwritten about in the current article:
Curious thing about the current situation with the article is that if the musical journalists had any interest in lo-fi back then when it was creatively booming (in the mid-2010s) any guy remotely related to the scene would envisage everything I have said off the top of their head, cause the whole scene existed as one at the fingertips, mostly on soundcloud and bandcamp. Subgenres mentioned here existed merely as styles (with exception of, probably, psych-fi scene which was usually very self-contained), and you wouldn't be to surprised, hypothetically talking, to hear wuntwo (german minimalist), then ohbliv (soul-hop), then yotaro (psych-fi), then swum (psych-fi imitator), then borealism (chill-hop) on consequent "Radio Juicy" mixes.
But journalists only started caring about the scene when the creativity got watered down by "Lofi girl" and similar channels and these channels went viral for fun and giggles as a meme. Hence the lamenting of the "insufficient creativity" that is discussed in the current state of article. -- PDD
Hey, just hoping to open up some discussion about this. There was previously a lot of language in this article referencing the genre as being a "meme". However, the only source cited to back this claim was an article on MTV.com, which contained a single speculative thought from the author, "Lo-fi hip-hop might be a meme", with nothing cited to backup the claim that it is indeed a meme.
While I understand that lofi playlists may be part of meme culture, this doesn't seem to make the entire genre a "meme". Music across all genres have been associated with memes, from rock, to hip hop, to classical, jazz, and so on and so on, these genres are of course not memes because of this. The artist Drake, for example, is featured prominently in many popular internet meme formats. These images are memes, but Drake himself, I would argue, is a separate entity and not a meme.
I have since removed the references to it being a "meme" - it seems to clearly be a genre of music and I can't find any reliable sources that state otherwise. If there are editors who disagree about this, I would love to hear their thoughts. 173.88.250.97 ( talk) 16:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
However, lofi hip-hop’s oversaturation also pushes a critical outlook of the genre. It receives criticism from music consumers about almost anything and everything, from the hackneyed looped anime GIFs to the overuse of the same samples and drum swings. As eevee puts it, “It gets boring at some point if everyone sounds the same.” In a separate HYPEBEAST interview with Knxwledge, the producer admitted that he even finds himself questioning the lofi material he uploads on SoundCloud. “It’s funny. I guess it’s the new SoundCloud vibe-type sh*t. SoundCloud’s not even tight anymore,” he said. “I go on Soundcloud to post sh*t and I’m like, ‘Honestly why am I doing this?’”
Just hoping to have a discussion about this before I go crazy and do any edits. The lead was updated to include the statement,
"it has also been described as either a contemporary form of easy listening music or as a musical form sharing many tropes with earlier easy listening music."
With two cites, one a book, and the other a forbes article.
The Forbes article seems to cite a single person giving their opinion WRT a wide variety of genres, not just lo-fi hip hop, and doesn't give any examples of tropes shared with easy listening music. Likewise, the book citation does not give any examples of tropes shared with easy listening music and does not contain any explicit statements comparing LoFi hip hop to easy listening music.
Because of the lack of support in the citations for this statement, I would think it should be removed. This is because I believe it's giving undue weight to an opinion that does not have proper citations to support the claim. Curious what editors may think. 173.88.250.97 ( talk) 01:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 February 2023 and 12 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Genstriker (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Yaeg512 ( talk) 19:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)