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I removed the following statements from the article:
In fact, it was my idea (Stephen Dorril) to start the magazine (I still hold the correspondence between myself and Robin Ramsay) in order to shift the focus away from primarily US politics/intelligence to looking at British politics/intelligence in terms of parapolitics. As co-editor, I funded the magazine for the first few issues and Robin did the typing and production.
As he stated in a letter to myself (Dorril)out-of-the-blue, at issue 26, Mr Ramsay decided that he was experiencing something of a mid-life crisis and wanted to have greater recognition for his contribution. He then decided to take the name, back copies and valuable subscription list for his own. Mr Dorril continued to publish Lobster for five more issues.
Even assuming this is Stephen Dorril, I don't think we can have direct claims from subjects of the article in the article itself, and definitely not in the first person. As the relevant correspondence is not publicly available, I don't think they are useful as a source. - Crosbiesmith 08:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll readily agree that this isn't the best article in Wikipedia, but I don't think that it should be deleted without further discussion. Rlquall 22:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Removed the tag (added recently by someone who didn't add an explanation here). Did a quick LexisNexis search for Lobster plus editor's name and it came back with 64 references in UK/US etc newspapers and magazines, including the Independent and the Toronto Star. Of recent note was a July 2007 piece of over 1000 words (Hull Daily Mail, July 13 2007) entirely given over to discussing the magazine and its importance over the years. Agree the article isn't great but that's nothing to do with notability. Testbed ( talk) 06:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
As the newspaper articles referred to above were removed for copyright purposes (the same editor then immediately tagged the article for deletion, citing a lack of references - which is what I would call disingenuous) here are details of the two longest, one recent and one from over 15 years ago:-
Hull Daily Mail (July 13, 2007) Sexed-up files, lies and surveillance tapes ... One man's search to uncover what lies beneath By A Coggan
The Guardian (August 31, 1991) Inside Story: In the lair of the lobster - Stephen Dorril and Robin Ramsey edit a left-wing journal that offers succour to conspiracy theorists and keeps the professionals on their toes By Robert McCrum Testbed ( talk) 19:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I wish to declare a potential conflict of interest, as I am the webmaster of the Lobster website, from which receive financial compensation. Editors may wish to subject my edits to addition scrutiny to ensure their objectivity. -- Iantresman ( talk) 14:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Would I be premature in making a Good Article nomination? -- Iantresman ( talk) 12:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Cirt ( talk · contribs) 20:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I will review this article. — Cirt ( talk) 20:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Image notes above, the rest are okay.
Next, on to stability review. — Cirt ( talk) 01:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Next, on to rest of review. — Cirt ( talk) 17:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of December 16, 2012, compares against the six good article criteria:
Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Cirt ( talk) 10:52, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Good question, I've posted to the user's talk page for Iantresman ( talk · contribs), cheers, — Cirt ( talk) 04:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
GA Review passed. Many thanks for the responsiveness to the above suggested changes. Cheers, — Cirt ( talk) 00:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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I removed the following statements from the article:
In fact, it was my idea (Stephen Dorril) to start the magazine (I still hold the correspondence between myself and Robin Ramsay) in order to shift the focus away from primarily US politics/intelligence to looking at British politics/intelligence in terms of parapolitics. As co-editor, I funded the magazine for the first few issues and Robin did the typing and production.
As he stated in a letter to myself (Dorril)out-of-the-blue, at issue 26, Mr Ramsay decided that he was experiencing something of a mid-life crisis and wanted to have greater recognition for his contribution. He then decided to take the name, back copies and valuable subscription list for his own. Mr Dorril continued to publish Lobster for five more issues.
Even assuming this is Stephen Dorril, I don't think we can have direct claims from subjects of the article in the article itself, and definitely not in the first person. As the relevant correspondence is not publicly available, I don't think they are useful as a source. - Crosbiesmith 08:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll readily agree that this isn't the best article in Wikipedia, but I don't think that it should be deleted without further discussion. Rlquall 22:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Removed the tag (added recently by someone who didn't add an explanation here). Did a quick LexisNexis search for Lobster plus editor's name and it came back with 64 references in UK/US etc newspapers and magazines, including the Independent and the Toronto Star. Of recent note was a July 2007 piece of over 1000 words (Hull Daily Mail, July 13 2007) entirely given over to discussing the magazine and its importance over the years. Agree the article isn't great but that's nothing to do with notability. Testbed ( talk) 06:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
As the newspaper articles referred to above were removed for copyright purposes (the same editor then immediately tagged the article for deletion, citing a lack of references - which is what I would call disingenuous) here are details of the two longest, one recent and one from over 15 years ago:-
Hull Daily Mail (July 13, 2007) Sexed-up files, lies and surveillance tapes ... One man's search to uncover what lies beneath By A Coggan
The Guardian (August 31, 1991) Inside Story: In the lair of the lobster - Stephen Dorril and Robin Ramsey edit a left-wing journal that offers succour to conspiracy theorists and keeps the professionals on their toes By Robert McCrum Testbed ( talk) 19:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I wish to declare a potential conflict of interest, as I am the webmaster of the Lobster website, from which receive financial compensation. Editors may wish to subject my edits to addition scrutiny to ensure their objectivity. -- Iantresman ( talk) 14:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Would I be premature in making a Good Article nomination? -- Iantresman ( talk) 12:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Cirt ( talk · contribs) 20:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I will review this article. — Cirt ( talk) 20:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Image notes above, the rest are okay.
Next, on to stability review. — Cirt ( talk) 01:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Next, on to rest of review. — Cirt ( talk) 17:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of December 16, 2012, compares against the six good article criteria:
Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Cirt ( talk) 10:52, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Good question, I've posted to the user's talk page for Iantresman ( talk · contribs), cheers, — Cirt ( talk) 04:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
GA Review passed. Many thanks for the responsiveness to the above suggested changes. Cheers, — Cirt ( talk) 00:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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