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These examples were in the earlier versions of the article and I can't disagree with them as examples, but I just don't know what to do with them. Rossami 23:40, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
Another example of popular use of loaded language is in relation to politeness.
"fair and balanced"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loaded words
The article claims that the term female circumcision is a "loaded term" used by proponents of the practice. Is that true? I have never heard this term used in a positive way. It of course lacks the punch of FGM, but it by no means conjures up happy images to me. Very Verily 01:40, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I am reorganizing the sentence reads ' Clitoridectomies are called female circumcision by people who approve of them and female genital mutilation by people who do not.' Both terms are used by groups phasing out various practices. Also, the sentence in the articles is technically inaccurate by legal definitions prohibiting certain practices, since:
"...yet some (usually those with a liberal bent) use it to describe anyone who believes in moral standards set forth by a higher power."
Huh? What value does this parenthetical add to the article, that it doesn't immediately subtract by its nature as a partisan non sequitur?
Also, as far as I can tell, the propaganda entry linked in the sentence immediately following the list ("These terms seem to arise most often in politics where they serve the purpose of propaganda.") shows that using loaded language, in and of itself, doesn't constitute propaganda. So there's that.-- electric counterpoint 23:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Recently I suggest4wt wt wtr hwtrh ted to merge framing (psychology) and framing (communication theory); I noticed now that this article is also quite similar in scope. Discussion is at Talk:framing (communication theory). Joriki 06:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Removed this text from the entry on pro-life and pro-choice in the list:
Pro-life groups emphasize a civilized society with morals and beliefs defends the sacrosanct nature of human life. But the same society rather not prefer to regulate what people (women in particular)can do to decide on these matters, and pro-choice groups advocate the "right" for abortions.
It seems kind of...loaded. It seems to imply that pro-choicers stand in opposition to a "civilized society with morals and beliefs" and "[defending] the sacrosanct nature of human life", and putting "right" in quotes implies slight irony or sarcasm. -- Awesome 05:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC) yes, its loaded and backwards, (have you ever heard of a pro-choice bombing?) 69.140.35.147 ( talk) 05:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
This does not describe anything there are no examples, this definition is confusing and looks like it was written by a 5th grader. Klichka ( talk) 17:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I do not agree with the formulation:
For example, the phrase tax relief refers literally to deductions that a person might claim in order to reduce the amount of tax they must pay to their government. However, use of the emotive word relief implies that the tax was an unreasonable burden to begin with.
For one thing, the word "relief" does not imply an unreasonable burden, just one that affects the tax payer negatively (depending on the reader, just "negatively" or "very negatively"). Further, my immediate association to tax relief is not deductions in general, but deductions where some kind of disproportional imposition (in the eyes of the law-makers) is present. (Beware, however, that I am not from the US: Both terminology and tax rules may vary geographically.) I suggest that a better example is found. 88.77.178.181 ( talk) 22:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
A lot of parties having commercial interest in the subject are using the term stealing when referring to digital piracy, I am quite sure that is loaded language since the definition of stealing involves taking an object that the owner will not have afterwards. I suggest this to be added to the article but my English skills are not native so it would be nice if someone else does it. Mtfr ( talk) 13:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone else noted that the term "Loaded Language" has a negative connotation of manipulation and the term "Power Words" carries a positive connotation of being a useful tool? Perhaps someone can come up with an eloquent way to add this point to the article itself. Dodger ( talk) 00:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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These examples were in the earlier versions of the article and I can't disagree with them as examples, but I just don't know what to do with them. Rossami 23:40, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
Another example of popular use of loaded language is in relation to politeness.
"fair and balanced"
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loaded words
The article claims that the term female circumcision is a "loaded term" used by proponents of the practice. Is that true? I have never heard this term used in a positive way. It of course lacks the punch of FGM, but it by no means conjures up happy images to me. Very Verily 01:40, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I am reorganizing the sentence reads ' Clitoridectomies are called female circumcision by people who approve of them and female genital mutilation by people who do not.' Both terms are used by groups phasing out various practices. Also, the sentence in the articles is technically inaccurate by legal definitions prohibiting certain practices, since:
"...yet some (usually those with a liberal bent) use it to describe anyone who believes in moral standards set forth by a higher power."
Huh? What value does this parenthetical add to the article, that it doesn't immediately subtract by its nature as a partisan non sequitur?
Also, as far as I can tell, the propaganda entry linked in the sentence immediately following the list ("These terms seem to arise most often in politics where they serve the purpose of propaganda.") shows that using loaded language, in and of itself, doesn't constitute propaganda. So there's that.-- electric counterpoint 23:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Recently I suggest4wt wt wtr hwtrh ted to merge framing (psychology) and framing (communication theory); I noticed now that this article is also quite similar in scope. Discussion is at Talk:framing (communication theory). Joriki 06:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Removed this text from the entry on pro-life and pro-choice in the list:
Pro-life groups emphasize a civilized society with morals and beliefs defends the sacrosanct nature of human life. But the same society rather not prefer to regulate what people (women in particular)can do to decide on these matters, and pro-choice groups advocate the "right" for abortions.
It seems kind of...loaded. It seems to imply that pro-choicers stand in opposition to a "civilized society with morals and beliefs" and "[defending] the sacrosanct nature of human life", and putting "right" in quotes implies slight irony or sarcasm. -- Awesome 05:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC) yes, its loaded and backwards, (have you ever heard of a pro-choice bombing?) 69.140.35.147 ( talk) 05:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
This does not describe anything there are no examples, this definition is confusing and looks like it was written by a 5th grader. Klichka ( talk) 17:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I do not agree with the formulation:
For example, the phrase tax relief refers literally to deductions that a person might claim in order to reduce the amount of tax they must pay to their government. However, use of the emotive word relief implies that the tax was an unreasonable burden to begin with.
For one thing, the word "relief" does not imply an unreasonable burden, just one that affects the tax payer negatively (depending on the reader, just "negatively" or "very negatively"). Further, my immediate association to tax relief is not deductions in general, but deductions where some kind of disproportional imposition (in the eyes of the law-makers) is present. (Beware, however, that I am not from the US: Both terminology and tax rules may vary geographically.) I suggest that a better example is found. 88.77.178.181 ( talk) 22:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
A lot of parties having commercial interest in the subject are using the term stealing when referring to digital piracy, I am quite sure that is loaded language since the definition of stealing involves taking an object that the owner will not have afterwards. I suggest this to be added to the article but my English skills are not native so it would be nice if someone else does it. Mtfr ( talk) 13:18, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone else noted that the term "Loaded Language" has a negative connotation of manipulation and the term "Power Words" carries a positive connotation of being a useful tool? Perhaps someone can come up with an eloquent way to add this point to the article itself. Dodger ( talk) 00:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)