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There's "LoJack" software for laptops, and it works in somewhat the same way. The service is provided by Absolute Software. Should this be added? -- 65.146.18.161 05:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
It says "...a small device the size of a car battery." Uh, car batteries aren't exactly small.....
The LoJack FAQ page says "about the size of a deck of cards" [1]
The "LoJack for laptops" is a separate company, which licenses the trademarked name from LoJack Corp. I suggest its mention in the article be moved from the "Products" section to the "See Also" section. This link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computrace_LoJack, is probably the best choice, but that entry looks suspiciously like a sales pitch. -- William Moates 10:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to address the drawbacks of LoJack. It makes the device seem to be invulnerable, and we all know it's not. For example, in the youtube video, they mention the transmitter has a range of just a few miles. Dalesd 17:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I wan't to know something as simple as "does this have monthly fees?" and I can't get a freakin; answer here or at the official site. "HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?" should be question number 1! 24.181.68.135 ( talk) 08:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it technically possible to use the tracking device not against a car thief, but against the car owner himself? More specifically, what does the sentence "the owner reports their vehicle stolen and enables the police to track and recover the vehicle" mean exactly - does the police need to obtain some kind of code from the owner to activate the device, or can the activation signal be sent without his consent or knowledge ("enabling" only needed in a legal, not technical sense)? For example, if a suspected terrorist owns a car with LoJack installed, could law enforcement use it to track his movements? Regards, High on a tree 11:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The price for a LoJack can vary based on the new car dealer you buy it from. Expect to pay between $495 and $695. Early warning and alarms are extra. Only the police can activate or deactivate a LoJack unit. Per the agreements with the FCC and the police, only stolen cars are active. Cars are not activated to track specific people unless the driver is driving a stolen car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Summitrt ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
"The technology uses radio frequency (RF) as opposed to GPS" This needs to be explained. Or simplified. Rich Farmbrough, 15:28 10 September 2007 (GMT).
If you look at the revision history of this article, you will notice that I have reverted 2 attempts at censorship pertaining to the frequency that LoJack units transmit. I will soon add another web cite directly to fcc.gov that proves that this is public information, not some kind of trade secret. However, there is something a little troubling about the wording of the information in this article. It sounds a little like how-to information rather than encyclopedic prose. Perhaps we should consider revising this as "LoJack transmits radio pulses at a frequency of ..." instead of "LoJack can be detected by ...". I'm curious what others here think. CosineKitty ( talk) 15:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
(unindent)I don't want to be harsh or something, but if you click on the "Disclaimers" link at the bottom of the page, you will see that this sort of concerns is not the problem of wikipedia -- Enric Naval ( talk) 02:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
The first sentence in the How it Works section tells us how LoJack works in the USA. Other parts of the article indicate that LoJack is available in many other countries. If somebody knows the answer, it would be nice to add some wording about examples of the law enforcement agencies in other countries that use LoJack to track stolen cars. CosineKitty ( talk) 16:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I saw this on the EAR page and asked admins to check into it on ANI. rootology ( T) 18:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Please notice that, per
WP:BURDEN, if someone removes content, then he is supposed to explain why he is removing it geez, I misread this policy *again*. In this case, the content is not breaking any policies, see
my edit summary on the removal.
The information is attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation, so I'm asking that the reasons for the removal are clearly explained on the talk page before removing the content again. I don't think that it's on the spirit of wikipedia to remove verified information from the article everytime anyone raises an issue with it and until the complainer is happy. (except WP:BLP articles, of course :P ) -- Enric Naval ( talk) 21:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Possible legal issue on LoJack:
While I have no particular opinion on this particular content dispute, I did want to say a few words about ethics. Some people in this thread appear to be putting forward the argument that since Wikipedia is not censored, then if there is no legal reason not to include public information, it should be included. Well, that is only true if we drop the full context of the ethical nature of what we are doing here, which is not compiling a huge data dump of all verifiable information, but rather writing an encyclopedia. There are many many valid reasons why some information is excluded from Wikipedia, and among them is and should be questions related to human dignity, ethics, harm to others, etc. It is not censorship to exercise mature and responsible editorial judgment. Let me say that again for emphasis: it is not censorship to exercise mature and responsible editorial judgment.
The most important and common case where this comes up is in questions related to the Biographies of Living Persons who are of marginal notability. We can and do, on a daily basis, delete information about such people even if it is verifiable, for the simple reason that it is morally right to do so: we can not responsibly write a full biography of a person who is well known for only a single negative event, and so we refrain from doing so, even though this means that we are excluding verifiable publicly known information. To be more specific: a good encyclopedia is not a tabloid newspaper, but should strive for neutrality above all else, and in some cases, neutrality is impossible because the information available is so limited.
Similarly, we can envision situations - other than strictly legal situations - where the right thing to do would be to exclude information that we as a community might thoughtfully judge to be both useless and dangerous. I have no opinion about the validity of the argument that having the frequency available in Wikipedia might lead hobbyists to get into dangerous situations. I did a google search on "LoJack frequency" and it is pretty much very widely available, and the sorts of hobbyists who would know what to do with the information will have access to it anyway I suppose.
So my point is not about this particular case: the facts here are complex and a valid discussion can be had about it amongst people who are better qualified than I am to think about it. My point is about the overall structure of the argument. You can't simply dismiss concerns about ethics by saying "Wikipedia is not censored" and "Talk to the legal department". We are better than that.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed this debate spilling onto umpteen talk pages and feel the need to weigh in. The operating frequency is hardly secret or sensitive information. It's been published in a variety of sources over the past twenty years. To name a few:
and finally
As far as any risk of publishing the frequency, I appreciate the concern but feel that the risk is extremely far-fetched. While you can enter this frequency into any police scanner, just because someone hears some bleeps over the radio doesn't mean they know where the stolen car is. Most of the time they would hear command signals from the towers anyway, not the cars. To home in on the signal would either be very tedious or require specialized direction-finding equipment.
As far as whether the frequency is notable or encyclopedic I have some opinions too:
Squidfryerchef ( talk) 00:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Even though I feel the inclusion of the exact frequency does not prevent a risk for a variety of reasons:
However, I could live with the wording "operates on a frequency in the 173 MHz range". Everybody working on a WP article has some say in what's important to include and what isn't, and this article's critics are no exception. Someone reading the article who knows radio would still be able to get an idea of how the signal propagates, how it's in a federal band rather than a normal police frequency, and the discussion about interference concerns to TV channel 7 still makes sense. Squidfryerchef ( talk) 12:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The following text is a proposed implementation of the compromise suggested above. Footnotes are omitted here solely for the sake of readibility (the final version should restore all the citations). Finell (Talk) 15:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
LoJack transmits on a radio frequency in the 170–180 MHz range. Vehicles with the system installed send a periodic signal every several seconds on this frequency. When a vhicle is reported stolen, the rate of signalling increases to facilitate tracking.
The radio frequency transmitted by LoJack is near the VHF spectrum band used by television channel 7 in North America. However, interference is minimal due to the low power of radiation, the brevity of the signal, and the relatively long interval between signals.
I'd like it to say "around 173 MHz", not "170-180". I'd also like to keep the information about how long and how often it chirps, because that's part of "how it works", though I may want to downplay one part of it. I'd like to provide some background info and talking points below:
(unindent)"There is no compelling reason why such specifics need to be in an encyclopedia article, especially if they are so easy to find elsewhere." Wait, what?
First, the compelling reason is that a encyclopedia article about a radio-based system should include details about the radio frequency used, including the fact that they had to ask the FCC for a waiver to use the frequency on a certain ways not allowed usually, and had to justify the use for it.
Second, "easy to find elsewhere" has never been a reason not to include something on an article. The thresholds are notability, relevance, verifiability, neutrality, etc.-- Enric Naval ( talk) 17:12, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
There are bigger problems with this article besides how to present the frequency. The article really looks like a pamphlet plus a paragraph of criticism plus a paragraph for radio hobbyists. There is even OR-ish negative information about the product still tagged as "unsourced".
My option is we should stick with "173 MHz" and start filling out the rest of the article. We have sources now on how the company was founded and how the negotiations went with the FCC, IRAC/NTIA, and the law enforcement community. If later on we have an extensively copyedited article with paragraphs on how the frequency was arrived at, then we can revisit including the frequency, and since we'd have encyclopedic prose with dozens of sources including non-technical sources, it would be difficult to argue against. However, I'd like to pick a starting point so we can all work together after protection gets lifted tonight.
I rather like "173 MHz" even for the hobbyist audience because it will get people looking through their frequency guides and thinking about the other odd non-federal allocations there. I also like it because they may be using a slightly different frequency in other countries and this won't directly contradict it. I also am not certain whether the original experimental licence they first got from the FCC was for the same channel they have now, when the allocation was made permanent.
I've played umpire on a number of articles, such as Eurodance, or Emergency vehicle lighting, where everybody knows a little bit about the subject but sometimes people get overspecific, and they write about their favorite band from Luxembourg or how their sheriff's dept. uses red and white lights in front but blue and orange in the back, and I can definitely say that the best strategy for detail is to blend it down into the rest of the prose. This is no different. Squidfryerchef ( talk) 18:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
All of the arguments so far about why a publicly allocated frequency should be excluded here hinge on the notion that they pose some danger to the public. We, the elites who already know this information (because we are clever enough to type in "lojack frequency" into Google and click a few times) can handle it, but we must become gatekeepers to protect the foolish unwashed masses from themselves. These hypothetical search-engine-challenged victims are capable of acquiring sophisticated direction-finding equipment. They brazenly drive around looking for stolen cars, and when they finally find a signal, they do not call the police. No, they drive right into a garage full of armed thugs and their life is quickly snuffed. All because we, the all-powerful gatekeepers of Wikipedia, eschewed our sacred duty and allowed the (non-) secret frequency out of the bag. Come on, is it just me, or can we admit that accepting the premise of the "dangerous information" argument is silly in this instance? If this is really the case, if you really believe that, then LoJack — using a publicly known frequency — is too dangerous to be allowed on the market. If WP is causing harm by revealing it, then so is the FCC and Radio Shack! The fact that an apparent agent of the company is arguing so much for eliminating public information from WP to me suggests that they are worried about their product being harmed in some way. It does not speak well for the quality of the product if it requires such security through obscurity. This is all the more reason the information should be considered relevant. Otherwise we better start deleting entire swaths of WP content in areas like handguns (little Johnny might shoot himself because of WP). CosineKitty ( talk) 23:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Does the frequency really need to be in an encyclopedia?
Usually with such a novel concept, created prior to widespread cellphones and GPS technology, we would have available the names of the creators; the one(s) who first "dreamed up" the idea. it is curious that LoJack cannot or has not provided this narrative. There may be a reason for this. In any case, who came up with the idea of LoJack? Mydogtrouble ( talk) 18:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems kinda shady to me that the "How it Works" section is an almost exact duplication of the pitch in the video on LoJack's website. Should this be reworded in a more neutral way? Nabeel_co ( talk) 07:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The listing of LoJack for Laptops under products is becoming too detailed compared to the other products listed. Since it's not a product of LoJack Corp, I propose that a new page is created for Absolute Software with its own section on LoJack for Laptops.Then move the detailed information to that page.
Technobee ( talk) 05:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I often hear the term "lojack" applied generically to any form of automotive tracking device of a similar type. Does anyone know if it is considered as common as "kleenex" or "jell-o" yet? Atypicaloracle ( talk) 20:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Booth pages redirect here, but the relevant information has been deleted from the article. It seems, somebody does not want it to apear in the public. Redirecting "Computrace" here is nonsense, because there is no relation to the car tracking devices.
Comparison of device tracking software (same sh*t, information was ripped off)
Computrace LoJack "03:08, 2 December 2006 Vegaswikian (talk | contribs) deleted page Computrace LoJack (db g11 does not assert notability)" Thats wrong. Computrace got strong attention (google: remove computrace 51.700 results) by several security related companys [9] [10] [11], by the Thinkpad-community [12] [13] and (see googler) many other people.
My english is very litimted, but the article about Computrace/Lojack for laptops should be restored and completed. best regards from germany, -- 92.225.91.97 ( talk) 14:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
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There's "LoJack" software for laptops, and it works in somewhat the same way. The service is provided by Absolute Software. Should this be added? -- 65.146.18.161 05:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
It says "...a small device the size of a car battery." Uh, car batteries aren't exactly small.....
The LoJack FAQ page says "about the size of a deck of cards" [1]
The "LoJack for laptops" is a separate company, which licenses the trademarked name from LoJack Corp. I suggest its mention in the article be moved from the "Products" section to the "See Also" section. This link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computrace_LoJack, is probably the best choice, but that entry looks suspiciously like a sales pitch. -- William Moates 10:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
This article needs to address the drawbacks of LoJack. It makes the device seem to be invulnerable, and we all know it's not. For example, in the youtube video, they mention the transmitter has a range of just a few miles. Dalesd 17:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I wan't to know something as simple as "does this have monthly fees?" and I can't get a freakin; answer here or at the official site. "HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?" should be question number 1! 24.181.68.135 ( talk) 08:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it technically possible to use the tracking device not against a car thief, but against the car owner himself? More specifically, what does the sentence "the owner reports their vehicle stolen and enables the police to track and recover the vehicle" mean exactly - does the police need to obtain some kind of code from the owner to activate the device, or can the activation signal be sent without his consent or knowledge ("enabling" only needed in a legal, not technical sense)? For example, if a suspected terrorist owns a car with LoJack installed, could law enforcement use it to track his movements? Regards, High on a tree 11:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The price for a LoJack can vary based on the new car dealer you buy it from. Expect to pay between $495 and $695. Early warning and alarms are extra. Only the police can activate or deactivate a LoJack unit. Per the agreements with the FCC and the police, only stolen cars are active. Cars are not activated to track specific people unless the driver is driving a stolen car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Summitrt ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
"The technology uses radio frequency (RF) as opposed to GPS" This needs to be explained. Or simplified. Rich Farmbrough, 15:28 10 September 2007 (GMT).
If you look at the revision history of this article, you will notice that I have reverted 2 attempts at censorship pertaining to the frequency that LoJack units transmit. I will soon add another web cite directly to fcc.gov that proves that this is public information, not some kind of trade secret. However, there is something a little troubling about the wording of the information in this article. It sounds a little like how-to information rather than encyclopedic prose. Perhaps we should consider revising this as "LoJack transmits radio pulses at a frequency of ..." instead of "LoJack can be detected by ...". I'm curious what others here think. CosineKitty ( talk) 15:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
(unindent)I don't want to be harsh or something, but if you click on the "Disclaimers" link at the bottom of the page, you will see that this sort of concerns is not the problem of wikipedia -- Enric Naval ( talk) 02:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
The first sentence in the How it Works section tells us how LoJack works in the USA. Other parts of the article indicate that LoJack is available in many other countries. If somebody knows the answer, it would be nice to add some wording about examples of the law enforcement agencies in other countries that use LoJack to track stolen cars. CosineKitty ( talk) 16:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I saw this on the EAR page and asked admins to check into it on ANI. rootology ( T) 18:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Please notice that, per
WP:BURDEN, if someone removes content, then he is supposed to explain why he is removing it geez, I misread this policy *again*. In this case, the content is not breaking any policies, see
my edit summary on the removal.
The information is attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation, so I'm asking that the reasons for the removal are clearly explained on the talk page before removing the content again. I don't think that it's on the spirit of wikipedia to remove verified information from the article everytime anyone raises an issue with it and until the complainer is happy. (except WP:BLP articles, of course :P ) -- Enric Naval ( talk) 21:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Possible legal issue on LoJack:
While I have no particular opinion on this particular content dispute, I did want to say a few words about ethics. Some people in this thread appear to be putting forward the argument that since Wikipedia is not censored, then if there is no legal reason not to include public information, it should be included. Well, that is only true if we drop the full context of the ethical nature of what we are doing here, which is not compiling a huge data dump of all verifiable information, but rather writing an encyclopedia. There are many many valid reasons why some information is excluded from Wikipedia, and among them is and should be questions related to human dignity, ethics, harm to others, etc. It is not censorship to exercise mature and responsible editorial judgment. Let me say that again for emphasis: it is not censorship to exercise mature and responsible editorial judgment.
The most important and common case where this comes up is in questions related to the Biographies of Living Persons who are of marginal notability. We can and do, on a daily basis, delete information about such people even if it is verifiable, for the simple reason that it is morally right to do so: we can not responsibly write a full biography of a person who is well known for only a single negative event, and so we refrain from doing so, even though this means that we are excluding verifiable publicly known information. To be more specific: a good encyclopedia is not a tabloid newspaper, but should strive for neutrality above all else, and in some cases, neutrality is impossible because the information available is so limited.
Similarly, we can envision situations - other than strictly legal situations - where the right thing to do would be to exclude information that we as a community might thoughtfully judge to be both useless and dangerous. I have no opinion about the validity of the argument that having the frequency available in Wikipedia might lead hobbyists to get into dangerous situations. I did a google search on "LoJack frequency" and it is pretty much very widely available, and the sorts of hobbyists who would know what to do with the information will have access to it anyway I suppose.
So my point is not about this particular case: the facts here are complex and a valid discussion can be had about it amongst people who are better qualified than I am to think about it. My point is about the overall structure of the argument. You can't simply dismiss concerns about ethics by saying "Wikipedia is not censored" and "Talk to the legal department". We are better than that.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed this debate spilling onto umpteen talk pages and feel the need to weigh in. The operating frequency is hardly secret or sensitive information. It's been published in a variety of sources over the past twenty years. To name a few:
and finally
As far as any risk of publishing the frequency, I appreciate the concern but feel that the risk is extremely far-fetched. While you can enter this frequency into any police scanner, just because someone hears some bleeps over the radio doesn't mean they know where the stolen car is. Most of the time they would hear command signals from the towers anyway, not the cars. To home in on the signal would either be very tedious or require specialized direction-finding equipment.
As far as whether the frequency is notable or encyclopedic I have some opinions too:
Squidfryerchef ( talk) 00:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Even though I feel the inclusion of the exact frequency does not prevent a risk for a variety of reasons:
However, I could live with the wording "operates on a frequency in the 173 MHz range". Everybody working on a WP article has some say in what's important to include and what isn't, and this article's critics are no exception. Someone reading the article who knows radio would still be able to get an idea of how the signal propagates, how it's in a federal band rather than a normal police frequency, and the discussion about interference concerns to TV channel 7 still makes sense. Squidfryerchef ( talk) 12:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The following text is a proposed implementation of the compromise suggested above. Footnotes are omitted here solely for the sake of readibility (the final version should restore all the citations). Finell (Talk) 15:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
LoJack transmits on a radio frequency in the 170–180 MHz range. Vehicles with the system installed send a periodic signal every several seconds on this frequency. When a vhicle is reported stolen, the rate of signalling increases to facilitate tracking.
The radio frequency transmitted by LoJack is near the VHF spectrum band used by television channel 7 in North America. However, interference is minimal due to the low power of radiation, the brevity of the signal, and the relatively long interval between signals.
I'd like it to say "around 173 MHz", not "170-180". I'd also like to keep the information about how long and how often it chirps, because that's part of "how it works", though I may want to downplay one part of it. I'd like to provide some background info and talking points below:
(unindent)"There is no compelling reason why such specifics need to be in an encyclopedia article, especially if they are so easy to find elsewhere." Wait, what?
First, the compelling reason is that a encyclopedia article about a radio-based system should include details about the radio frequency used, including the fact that they had to ask the FCC for a waiver to use the frequency on a certain ways not allowed usually, and had to justify the use for it.
Second, "easy to find elsewhere" has never been a reason not to include something on an article. The thresholds are notability, relevance, verifiability, neutrality, etc.-- Enric Naval ( talk) 17:12, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
There are bigger problems with this article besides how to present the frequency. The article really looks like a pamphlet plus a paragraph of criticism plus a paragraph for radio hobbyists. There is even OR-ish negative information about the product still tagged as "unsourced".
My option is we should stick with "173 MHz" and start filling out the rest of the article. We have sources now on how the company was founded and how the negotiations went with the FCC, IRAC/NTIA, and the law enforcement community. If later on we have an extensively copyedited article with paragraphs on how the frequency was arrived at, then we can revisit including the frequency, and since we'd have encyclopedic prose with dozens of sources including non-technical sources, it would be difficult to argue against. However, I'd like to pick a starting point so we can all work together after protection gets lifted tonight.
I rather like "173 MHz" even for the hobbyist audience because it will get people looking through their frequency guides and thinking about the other odd non-federal allocations there. I also like it because they may be using a slightly different frequency in other countries and this won't directly contradict it. I also am not certain whether the original experimental licence they first got from the FCC was for the same channel they have now, when the allocation was made permanent.
I've played umpire on a number of articles, such as Eurodance, or Emergency vehicle lighting, where everybody knows a little bit about the subject but sometimes people get overspecific, and they write about their favorite band from Luxembourg or how their sheriff's dept. uses red and white lights in front but blue and orange in the back, and I can definitely say that the best strategy for detail is to blend it down into the rest of the prose. This is no different. Squidfryerchef ( talk) 18:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
All of the arguments so far about why a publicly allocated frequency should be excluded here hinge on the notion that they pose some danger to the public. We, the elites who already know this information (because we are clever enough to type in "lojack frequency" into Google and click a few times) can handle it, but we must become gatekeepers to protect the foolish unwashed masses from themselves. These hypothetical search-engine-challenged victims are capable of acquiring sophisticated direction-finding equipment. They brazenly drive around looking for stolen cars, and when they finally find a signal, they do not call the police. No, they drive right into a garage full of armed thugs and their life is quickly snuffed. All because we, the all-powerful gatekeepers of Wikipedia, eschewed our sacred duty and allowed the (non-) secret frequency out of the bag. Come on, is it just me, or can we admit that accepting the premise of the "dangerous information" argument is silly in this instance? If this is really the case, if you really believe that, then LoJack — using a publicly known frequency — is too dangerous to be allowed on the market. If WP is causing harm by revealing it, then so is the FCC and Radio Shack! The fact that an apparent agent of the company is arguing so much for eliminating public information from WP to me suggests that they are worried about their product being harmed in some way. It does not speak well for the quality of the product if it requires such security through obscurity. This is all the more reason the information should be considered relevant. Otherwise we better start deleting entire swaths of WP content in areas like handguns (little Johnny might shoot himself because of WP). CosineKitty ( talk) 23:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Does the frequency really need to be in an encyclopedia?
Usually with such a novel concept, created prior to widespread cellphones and GPS technology, we would have available the names of the creators; the one(s) who first "dreamed up" the idea. it is curious that LoJack cannot or has not provided this narrative. There may be a reason for this. In any case, who came up with the idea of LoJack? Mydogtrouble ( talk) 18:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems kinda shady to me that the "How it Works" section is an almost exact duplication of the pitch in the video on LoJack's website. Should this be reworded in a more neutral way? Nabeel_co ( talk) 07:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The listing of LoJack for Laptops under products is becoming too detailed compared to the other products listed. Since it's not a product of LoJack Corp, I propose that a new page is created for Absolute Software with its own section on LoJack for Laptops.Then move the detailed information to that page.
Technobee ( talk) 05:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I often hear the term "lojack" applied generically to any form of automotive tracking device of a similar type. Does anyone know if it is considered as common as "kleenex" or "jell-o" yet? Atypicaloracle ( talk) 20:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Booth pages redirect here, but the relevant information has been deleted from the article. It seems, somebody does not want it to apear in the public. Redirecting "Computrace" here is nonsense, because there is no relation to the car tracking devices.
Comparison of device tracking software (same sh*t, information was ripped off)
Computrace LoJack "03:08, 2 December 2006 Vegaswikian (talk | contribs) deleted page Computrace LoJack (db g11 does not assert notability)" Thats wrong. Computrace got strong attention (google: remove computrace 51.700 results) by several security related companys [9] [10] [11], by the Thinkpad-community [12] [13] and (see googler) many other people.
My english is very litimted, but the article about Computrace/Lojack for laptops should be restored and completed. best regards from germany, -- 92.225.91.97 ( talk) 14:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
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