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Reviewer: Mykleavens ( talk) 21:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC) I am planning to review this. Note that I am still fairly new to the site and this will be my first review. No comments about the article as yet. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 21:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I've read this a couple of times now and before I even go into the specific GA criteria, I am placing the review on hold for two weeks to give editors time to address various concerns I have at present (there may well be more to come). I have several initial comments to make and I am proposing a rewrite of the lead:
I have a lot of problems with the lead which needs to be revised. Taking the current content and without introducing any additional information, I would write the lead along these lines:
Liverpool Football Club is an English professional football club based in Liverpool, Merseyside, which has regularly taken part in European competitions since its first appearance in the 1964–65 European Cup. Qualification for English clubs is determined by the team's performance in its domestic league and cup competitions. From 1964 to 1985, Liverpool qualified for the European Cup several times by winning the former Football League First Division. Since 1992, qualification to the renamed UEFA Champions League has been via a top four placing in the Premier League. Liverpool has also achieved European qualification via the FA Cup and Football League Cup and has played in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and UEFA Cup competitions.
Liverpool's first participation in European competition was in the 1964–65 European Cup against KR Reykjavik of Iceland. Liverpool competed in Europe for 21 consecutive seasons until the 1985 European Cup final, the occasion of the Heysel Stadium disaster, following which all English clubs were banned from UEFA competitions for 6 seasons. Since being reaccepted in 1992, Liverpool has qualified for either the Champions League or the UEFA Cup in most seasons to date.
Liverpool has won the the European Cup five times, a British record, most recently in the 2005 UEFA Champions League Final. As a result of that victory, Liverpool won the European Champion Clubs' Cup outright and was awarded a multiple winner badge. Only Real Madrid and A.C. Milan have won the competition on more occasions. Liverpool has won the UEFA Cup (now called the Europa League) three times, a record shared with Juventus and Internazionale.
Liverpool's record win in Europe is an 11–0 victory over Strømsgodset in the 1974–75 Cup Winners' Cup; this is the club's record victory in all competitions. Jamie Carragher holds the club record for the most appearances in European competition with 136 to the end of the 2010–11 season. Steven Gerrard is Liverpool's record goalscorer in Europe with 35 to the end of the 2010–11 season.
The above are first impressions. I will continue to review in detail and will work on the GA criteria now to complete the review in due course, providing the points raised to date are addressed. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 11:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Over the last couple of days, I've tried to improve the wording, content and layout of the article which was nowhere near a pass for being well-written. Although some further tweaks will be needed, it is now in a much better shape (a bit like Liverpool themselves in recent months!). However, I still have concerns and am not able to pass the article yet, but I'm not going to fail it as I think it is definitely heading in the right direction. I'm continuing to keep it on hold so that more work can be done within the term of this review.
To summarise, the article remains on hold for one month pending additional information to broaden its coverage. I'll update the GA nominations page accordingly and will keep looking at the article to help where I can. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 12:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
You've done everything I've asked and I have been quite strict to try and make this not just good but better. It's been a close run thing on occasion but the article is there now. Please try to ensure it retains its current good writing as that was at first the main barrier it faced. It's a good article now so well done. And I hope to see some more Champions League content in 2012–13! -- Mykleavens ( talk) 18:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Mykleavens ( talk) 21:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC) I am planning to review this. Note that I am still fairly new to the site and this will be my first review. No comments about the article as yet. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 21:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I've read this a couple of times now and before I even go into the specific GA criteria, I am placing the review on hold for two weeks to give editors time to address various concerns I have at present (there may well be more to come). I have several initial comments to make and I am proposing a rewrite of the lead:
I have a lot of problems with the lead which needs to be revised. Taking the current content and without introducing any additional information, I would write the lead along these lines:
Liverpool Football Club is an English professional football club based in Liverpool, Merseyside, which has regularly taken part in European competitions since its first appearance in the 1964–65 European Cup. Qualification for English clubs is determined by the team's performance in its domestic league and cup competitions. From 1964 to 1985, Liverpool qualified for the European Cup several times by winning the former Football League First Division. Since 1992, qualification to the renamed UEFA Champions League has been via a top four placing in the Premier League. Liverpool has also achieved European qualification via the FA Cup and Football League Cup and has played in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and UEFA Cup competitions.
Liverpool's first participation in European competition was in the 1964–65 European Cup against KR Reykjavik of Iceland. Liverpool competed in Europe for 21 consecutive seasons until the 1985 European Cup final, the occasion of the Heysel Stadium disaster, following which all English clubs were banned from UEFA competitions for 6 seasons. Since being reaccepted in 1992, Liverpool has qualified for either the Champions League or the UEFA Cup in most seasons to date.
Liverpool has won the the European Cup five times, a British record, most recently in the 2005 UEFA Champions League Final. As a result of that victory, Liverpool won the European Champion Clubs' Cup outright and was awarded a multiple winner badge. Only Real Madrid and A.C. Milan have won the competition on more occasions. Liverpool has won the UEFA Cup (now called the Europa League) three times, a record shared with Juventus and Internazionale.
Liverpool's record win in Europe is an 11–0 victory over Strømsgodset in the 1974–75 Cup Winners' Cup; this is the club's record victory in all competitions. Jamie Carragher holds the club record for the most appearances in European competition with 136 to the end of the 2010–11 season. Steven Gerrard is Liverpool's record goalscorer in Europe with 35 to the end of the 2010–11 season.
The above are first impressions. I will continue to review in detail and will work on the GA criteria now to complete the review in due course, providing the points raised to date are addressed. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 11:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Over the last couple of days, I've tried to improve the wording, content and layout of the article which was nowhere near a pass for being well-written. Although some further tweaks will be needed, it is now in a much better shape (a bit like Liverpool themselves in recent months!). However, I still have concerns and am not able to pass the article yet, but I'm not going to fail it as I think it is definitely heading in the right direction. I'm continuing to keep it on hold so that more work can be done within the term of this review.
To summarise, the article remains on hold for one month pending additional information to broaden its coverage. I'll update the GA nominations page accordingly and will keep looking at the article to help where I can. -- Mykleavens ( talk) 12:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
You've done everything I've asked and I have been quite strict to try and make this not just good but better. It's been a close run thing on occasion but the article is there now. Please try to ensure it retains its current good writing as that was at first the main barrier it faced. It's a good article now so well done. And I hope to see some more Champions League content in 2012–13! -- Mykleavens ( talk) 18:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)