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Could we have more about why the liver birds are there please. F0or instance, the reason they were built. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.144.2 ( talk • contribs) 09:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Shirley & Chris did it in Liverpool, overlooked by a picture of the Liverbirds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.134.129 ( talk) 17:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I've re-arranged the text a bit to make a "History" section. I thought it'd be better to start with a section saying what the bird is, rather than one saying what it is not. I hope that's OK with everyone. Swanny18 ( talk) 18:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
the paragraph with details of fishermen eating cormorants seems a little questionable - especially the name "Sir Shane of the Goldthorpe Meadows". Shane is a relatively modern name, and is unlikely to have been found in the 13th century, and "goldthorpe meadows" returns zero ghits. I suspect vandalism/hoaxing. Grutness... wha? 22:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hmm: I've moved this to here
"In the mid 13th century a reference to Sir Shane of The Goldthorpe Meadows was made in a court case against fishermen capturing and later eating "lefler birds" (
cormorants) in an attempt to subsidise their poor diet. There are only snippits of these references and no indication to how true or accurate any etymologies made in relation to them may be.
dubious –
discuss."
Can I suggest we delete it after a week unless someone can come up with more than a snippet to justify it? (Message left on contributor talk page)
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"Lefler" is not a Dutch word. According to english naturalists from neckam to ray it is German, though its current spelling, according to the Van Dale Dutch to German dictionary, is "Löffler". The Dutch equivalent is "Lepelaar". Wartywolfs ( talk) 01:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe that this edit, back from 2006, was vandalism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Liver_bird&diff=next&oldid=56046665
By the way, it was the only edit made by that user account.
Please confirm and edit as appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.182.245 ( talk) 18:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
An IP keeps adding this to the article: "In 2011, the Liver Bird was misidentified in a LCC meeting and mistakenly referred to as a stork. LCC is reviewing the claim of the Liver Bird being from the stork family to see if there is any historic truth behind the comment." There's no source, and it seems to me as approaching vandalism, but I'm sensitive to accusations of WP:3RR at the moment, so other editors might like to take a look. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 07:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I was just reading up on Sir Paul McCartney, since it's his birthday. I saw that he had a Coat of Arms, and that it contained a representation of a Liver Bird in honor of his Liverpulian roots. I then found this article to explain to me what the heck a Liver Bird is. So I'm simply suggesting that someone who knows how, goes in there and links the two articles together, and possibly make reference to Sir Paul on this page. Btw, I don't see any Liver Bird in the design of his crest as claimed, so maybe someone who does can explain?!? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_McCartney_Arms.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arpodk ( talk • contribs) 04:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
In the section "Possible species" in the article, "LCC" is referred to. Could it be made clear there which LCC is intended? I can think of a number of possibilities: Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Cricket Club, and Liverpool Community College, as well as some admittedly less likely ones. Paulbuckingham ( talk) 23:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I have reverted the addition of "Merseyside" - as in "Liverpool, Merseyside, England". It is unnecessary - Liverpool is a big enough city not to need any explanation in this article of which 1970s local government area it was (or is, according to some) in, and the existence of the Liver birds as symbols long pre-dates the existence of the administrative area in any case. It's a quite unnecessary addition. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 22:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Though myself not from Liverpool, I have more than once read of a supposed local legend jocularly claimed by male Liverpudlians that the Liver birds on top of the Royal Liver Building flap their wings when a virtuous woman passes by, and that female Liverpudlians defend their honour by pointing out that the birds' wings are tied down. Is this actually extant, and might it be included in the article? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.220.212.253 ( talk) 20:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
It misillreads: “murderous and carnivorous jackdaw like creatures” 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:4DD9:395A:783C:26AC ( talk) 00:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Chunks of this, particularly in the second and third sections, have wording very similar to that contained in Source 8. Did Explore Liverpool plagiarise from us, or the other way round? KJP1 ( talk) 14:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Could we have more about why the liver birds are there please. F0or instance, the reason they were built. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.144.2 ( talk • contribs) 09:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Shirley & Chris did it in Liverpool, overlooked by a picture of the Liverbirds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.134.129 ( talk) 17:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I've re-arranged the text a bit to make a "History" section. I thought it'd be better to start with a section saying what the bird is, rather than one saying what it is not. I hope that's OK with everyone. Swanny18 ( talk) 18:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
the paragraph with details of fishermen eating cormorants seems a little questionable - especially the name "Sir Shane of the Goldthorpe Meadows". Shane is a relatively modern name, and is unlikely to have been found in the 13th century, and "goldthorpe meadows" returns zero ghits. I suspect vandalism/hoaxing. Grutness... wha? 22:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hmm: I've moved this to here
"In the mid 13th century a reference to Sir Shane of The Goldthorpe Meadows was made in a court case against fishermen capturing and later eating "lefler birds" (
cormorants) in an attempt to subsidise their poor diet. There are only snippits of these references and no indication to how true or accurate any etymologies made in relation to them may be.
dubious –
discuss."
Can I suggest we delete it after a week unless someone can come up with more than a snippet to justify it? (Message left on contributor talk page)
Swanny18 (
talk)
07:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
"Lefler" is not a Dutch word. According to english naturalists from neckam to ray it is German, though its current spelling, according to the Van Dale Dutch to German dictionary, is "Löffler". The Dutch equivalent is "Lepelaar". Wartywolfs ( talk) 01:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe that this edit, back from 2006, was vandalism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Liver_bird&diff=next&oldid=56046665
By the way, it was the only edit made by that user account.
Please confirm and edit as appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.66.182.245 ( talk) 18:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
An IP keeps adding this to the article: "In 2011, the Liver Bird was misidentified in a LCC meeting and mistakenly referred to as a stork. LCC is reviewing the claim of the Liver Bird being from the stork family to see if there is any historic truth behind the comment." There's no source, and it seems to me as approaching vandalism, but I'm sensitive to accusations of WP:3RR at the moment, so other editors might like to take a look. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 07:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I was just reading up on Sir Paul McCartney, since it's his birthday. I saw that he had a Coat of Arms, and that it contained a representation of a Liver Bird in honor of his Liverpulian roots. I then found this article to explain to me what the heck a Liver Bird is. So I'm simply suggesting that someone who knows how, goes in there and links the two articles together, and possibly make reference to Sir Paul on this page. Btw, I don't see any Liver Bird in the design of his crest as claimed, so maybe someone who does can explain?!? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_McCartney_Arms.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arpodk ( talk • contribs) 04:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
In the section "Possible species" in the article, "LCC" is referred to. Could it be made clear there which LCC is intended? I can think of a number of possibilities: Liverpool City Council, Liverpool Cricket Club, and Liverpool Community College, as well as some admittedly less likely ones. Paulbuckingham ( talk) 23:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I have reverted the addition of "Merseyside" - as in "Liverpool, Merseyside, England". It is unnecessary - Liverpool is a big enough city not to need any explanation in this article of which 1970s local government area it was (or is, according to some) in, and the existence of the Liver birds as symbols long pre-dates the existence of the administrative area in any case. It's a quite unnecessary addition. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 22:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Though myself not from Liverpool, I have more than once read of a supposed local legend jocularly claimed by male Liverpudlians that the Liver birds on top of the Royal Liver Building flap their wings when a virtuous woman passes by, and that female Liverpudlians defend their honour by pointing out that the birds' wings are tied down. Is this actually extant, and might it be included in the article? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.220.212.253 ( talk) 20:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
It misillreads: “murderous and carnivorous jackdaw like creatures” 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:4DD9:395A:783C:26AC ( talk) 00:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Chunks of this, particularly in the second and third sections, have wording very similar to that contained in Source 8. Did Explore Liverpool plagiarise from us, or the other way round? KJP1 ( talk) 14:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)