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The article states that Liu and Mao Zedong attended the same school in Changsha.
But it does not state the name of the school, and the article on Mao does not even mention this.
Does anyone know what school this was? There was a missionary school in Changsha. Was that the school? Bill Jefferys 01:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I found an article on the Epoch Times that described the final moments of Liu's life. I think this would be a fairly reliable source, although it may be considered biased.
Liu Shaoqi, a former Chinese president who was once the No. 2 figure in the nation, died miserably. On the day of his 70th birthday, Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai [23] specifically told Wang Dongxing (Mao's lead guard) to bring Liu Shaoqi a birthday present, a radio, in order to let him hear the official report of the Eighth Plenary Session of the twelfth Central Committee, which said, "Forever expel the traitor, spy, and renegade Liu Shaoqi from the Party and continue to expose and criticize Liu Shaoqi and his accomplices' crimes of betrayal and treason."
Liu Shaoqi was crushed mentally and his illnesses rapidly deteriorated. Because he was tied to the bed for a long time and could not move, his neck, back, hip, and heels had painful festering bedsores. When he felt great pain he would grab some clothes, articles, or other people's arms, and not let go, so people simply put a hard plastic bottle into each of his hands. When he died, the two hard plastic bottles had become hourglass shaped from his gripping.
By October 1969, Liu Shaoqi's body had started to rot all over and the infected pus had a strong odor. He was as thin as a rail and on the verge of death. But the special inspector from the central Party committee did not allow him to take a shower or turn over his body to change his clothes. Instead, they stripped off all his clothes, wrapped him in a quilt, sent him by air from Beijing to Kaifeng city, and locked him up in the basement of a solid blockhouse. When he had high fever, they not only did not give him medication, but also transferred the medical personnel away. When Liu Shaoqi died, his body had completely degenerated, and he had disheveled white hair that was two feet long. Two days later, at midnight, he was cremated as a person with a highly infectious disease. His bedding, pillow and other things left behind were all cremated. Liu's death card reads: Name: Liu Weihuang; occupation: unemployed; reason for death: disease. The CCP tortured the president of the nation to death like this without even giving a clear reason.
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/4-12-23/25124.html
Could someone please me read over this and add a summary to the article? Also, I would like to know how to add sources, etc. (ex: [13]) Duct tape tricorn ( talk) 18:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Doesn anyone know if this pic is in the public domain?
vcas.wlu.edu/VRAS/2003/Goldstein.pdf
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 04:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
In light of the lack of citations, I've rewritten much of the first few paragraphs, using two reliable sources. This includes correcting the view that Liu was against the Great Leap Forward; in fact, he announced it! DOR (HK) ( talk) 06:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Statesman is defined as "usually a politician, diplomat or other notable public figure who has had a long and respected career at the national or international level." According to the article, Liu's career was long, spanning one or two decades, he led and represented the nation at both the national and international levels, and he was respected enough to be posthumously "rehabilitated" by Deng. Therefore, I feel it is appropriate to label him a "statesman" in the lead sentence and have reverted "politician" to "statesman." Phlar ( talk) 11:31, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
"In 1925, Liu became a member of the Guangzhou-based All-China Federation of Labor Executive Committee."
Is the 'All-China Federation of Labor' the same as the All-China Federation of Trade Unions? The article says the latter organization is currently based in Beijing, but seems to say that it was founded in Guangzhou. Harfarhs ( talk) 17:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Suggestion: the intro should talk about how Liu Shaoqi was a traitor that deserved to be imprisoned by Mao Zedong during the cultural revolution Echo Ayato Tighnari Ganyu ( talk) 02:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Given the guy's prominence in the party and involvement in both Shanghai and Wuhan, it's worth mentioning exactly how he escaped Chiang Kai-shek's purge of senior party members in 1927. Right now the article—while otherwise well sourced and comprehensive at least w/r/t Western scholarship—passes over that in complete silence, which is ridiculous. — LlywelynII 12:25, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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The article states that Liu and Mao Zedong attended the same school in Changsha.
But it does not state the name of the school, and the article on Mao does not even mention this.
Does anyone know what school this was? There was a missionary school in Changsha. Was that the school? Bill Jefferys 01:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I found an article on the Epoch Times that described the final moments of Liu's life. I think this would be a fairly reliable source, although it may be considered biased.
Liu Shaoqi, a former Chinese president who was once the No. 2 figure in the nation, died miserably. On the day of his 70th birthday, Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai [23] specifically told Wang Dongxing (Mao's lead guard) to bring Liu Shaoqi a birthday present, a radio, in order to let him hear the official report of the Eighth Plenary Session of the twelfth Central Committee, which said, "Forever expel the traitor, spy, and renegade Liu Shaoqi from the Party and continue to expose and criticize Liu Shaoqi and his accomplices' crimes of betrayal and treason."
Liu Shaoqi was crushed mentally and his illnesses rapidly deteriorated. Because he was tied to the bed for a long time and could not move, his neck, back, hip, and heels had painful festering bedsores. When he felt great pain he would grab some clothes, articles, or other people's arms, and not let go, so people simply put a hard plastic bottle into each of his hands. When he died, the two hard plastic bottles had become hourglass shaped from his gripping.
By October 1969, Liu Shaoqi's body had started to rot all over and the infected pus had a strong odor. He was as thin as a rail and on the verge of death. But the special inspector from the central Party committee did not allow him to take a shower or turn over his body to change his clothes. Instead, they stripped off all his clothes, wrapped him in a quilt, sent him by air from Beijing to Kaifeng city, and locked him up in the basement of a solid blockhouse. When he had high fever, they not only did not give him medication, but also transferred the medical personnel away. When Liu Shaoqi died, his body had completely degenerated, and he had disheveled white hair that was two feet long. Two days later, at midnight, he was cremated as a person with a highly infectious disease. His bedding, pillow and other things left behind were all cremated. Liu's death card reads: Name: Liu Weihuang; occupation: unemployed; reason for death: disease. The CCP tortured the president of the nation to death like this without even giving a clear reason.
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/4-12-23/25124.html
Could someone please me read over this and add a summary to the article? Also, I would like to know how to add sources, etc. (ex: [13]) Duct tape tricorn ( talk) 18:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Doesn anyone know if this pic is in the public domain?
vcas.wlu.edu/VRAS/2003/Goldstein.pdf
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 04:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
In light of the lack of citations, I've rewritten much of the first few paragraphs, using two reliable sources. This includes correcting the view that Liu was against the Great Leap Forward; in fact, he announced it! DOR (HK) ( talk) 06:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Statesman is defined as "usually a politician, diplomat or other notable public figure who has had a long and respected career at the national or international level." According to the article, Liu's career was long, spanning one or two decades, he led and represented the nation at both the national and international levels, and he was respected enough to be posthumously "rehabilitated" by Deng. Therefore, I feel it is appropriate to label him a "statesman" in the lead sentence and have reverted "politician" to "statesman." Phlar ( talk) 11:31, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
"In 1925, Liu became a member of the Guangzhou-based All-China Federation of Labor Executive Committee."
Is the 'All-China Federation of Labor' the same as the All-China Federation of Trade Unions? The article says the latter organization is currently based in Beijing, but seems to say that it was founded in Guangzhou. Harfarhs ( talk) 17:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Suggestion: the intro should talk about how Liu Shaoqi was a traitor that deserved to be imprisoned by Mao Zedong during the cultural revolution Echo Ayato Tighnari Ganyu ( talk) 02:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Given the guy's prominence in the party and involvement in both Shanghai and Wuhan, it's worth mentioning exactly how he escaped Chiang Kai-shek's purge of senior party members in 1927. Right now the article—while otherwise well sourced and comprehensive at least w/r/t Western scholarship—passes over that in complete silence, which is ridiculous. — LlywelynII 12:25, 12 April 2023 (UTC)