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[Originally added by User 87.244.81.86, reposted with formatting corrections for readability ] -- IxK85 ( talk) 23:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone speak to what measures were in place by the British gov't to compensate owners of "Little ships" that were damaged or lost during the effort to rescue the BEF? And was there any compensation for physical wounds or loss of life amongst the civilian (non-RN) crews? I think this must be included in the article and implore a knowledgeable editor to add (or re-add?) this material please! Az x2 04:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Is there any need for all the red links in this section? Most of them are unlikely to have their own article. Also, there is more information about some of them at Royal National Lifeboat Institution#Dunkirk evacuation which should be in this article rather than RNLI, as all but 2 or 3 boats were commandeered by the RN rather than sailed by their regular crews (and that's another story that should be mentioned in this article - I'm working on it). Tony Holkham ( talk) 10:15, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
This lifeboat is listed as having been in Operation Dynamo but I can find no reference to her other than her having been at Cadgwith, Cornwall, from 1932. The citation is a dead link. Guide of Dunkirk seems to have gone to Cadgwith after Dunkirk, so was Herbert Sturmey somewhere else handy at the time of Dynamo? Anyone know? Tony Holkham ( talk) 23:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I would suggest the title of the article is somewhat misleading, in relation to its inclusion of many ships which could hardly be described as "little". By which I mean primarily such as those of the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company and the Royal Daffodil - which had a gross registered tonnage of 2,060 tons. The popular perception of "The Little Ships of Dunkirk" are of such as pleasure craft; those commonly found of the Thames, Medway and the area of the south coast of England. The ships of the Isle of Man Steam Packet involved in the operation ranged in tonnage from 1,691 (Mona's Isle) to 3,104 (Lady of Mann). I would contend that either the title of the article needs changing in order to remove ambiguity with regard to the size of the vessels involved, or such as cross-channel and other commercial steamers, and their part in the evacuation, should be transferred into the body of the main article concerning Operation Dynamo. Would that not be seen as more reflective? Harvey Milligan ( talk) 08:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Something the article needs is an estimate of the total number of evacuees taken off by the "little ships" in comparison with the number taken off by naval vessels. Peter Bell ( talk) 04:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
A number of actual "little ships" were included in Dunkirk (2017 film); however, there are conflicting numbers: 12 according to Telegraph and 14 according to Daily Mail. The Telegraph article is pay-wall, so I was unable to verify. I suspect that the Telegraph refers to the number actually seen in the final cut, whereas the Daily Mail refers to the number used for filming -- in other words, two ended up "on the cutting room floor". If anybody could clear this up, it would be appreciated. Thanks, — 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 ( talk) 16:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
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I am removing the below quoted material from the article and posting it here, as it is primarily a discussion of sources for this article. --
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[Originally added by User 87.244.81.86, reposted with formatting corrections for readability ] -- IxK85 ( talk) 23:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone speak to what measures were in place by the British gov't to compensate owners of "Little ships" that were damaged or lost during the effort to rescue the BEF? And was there any compensation for physical wounds or loss of life amongst the civilian (non-RN) crews? I think this must be included in the article and implore a knowledgeable editor to add (or re-add?) this material please! Az x2 04:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Is there any need for all the red links in this section? Most of them are unlikely to have their own article. Also, there is more information about some of them at Royal National Lifeboat Institution#Dunkirk evacuation which should be in this article rather than RNLI, as all but 2 or 3 boats were commandeered by the RN rather than sailed by their regular crews (and that's another story that should be mentioned in this article - I'm working on it). Tony Holkham ( talk) 10:15, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
This lifeboat is listed as having been in Operation Dynamo but I can find no reference to her other than her having been at Cadgwith, Cornwall, from 1932. The citation is a dead link. Guide of Dunkirk seems to have gone to Cadgwith after Dunkirk, so was Herbert Sturmey somewhere else handy at the time of Dynamo? Anyone know? Tony Holkham ( talk) 23:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I would suggest the title of the article is somewhat misleading, in relation to its inclusion of many ships which could hardly be described as "little". By which I mean primarily such as those of the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company and the Royal Daffodil - which had a gross registered tonnage of 2,060 tons. The popular perception of "The Little Ships of Dunkirk" are of such as pleasure craft; those commonly found of the Thames, Medway and the area of the south coast of England. The ships of the Isle of Man Steam Packet involved in the operation ranged in tonnage from 1,691 (Mona's Isle) to 3,104 (Lady of Mann). I would contend that either the title of the article needs changing in order to remove ambiguity with regard to the size of the vessels involved, or such as cross-channel and other commercial steamers, and their part in the evacuation, should be transferred into the body of the main article concerning Operation Dynamo. Would that not be seen as more reflective? Harvey Milligan ( talk) 08:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Something the article needs is an estimate of the total number of evacuees taken off by the "little ships" in comparison with the number taken off by naval vessels. Peter Bell ( talk) 04:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
A number of actual "little ships" were included in Dunkirk (2017 film); however, there are conflicting numbers: 12 according to Telegraph and 14 according to Daily Mail. The Telegraph article is pay-wall, so I was unable to verify. I suspect that the Telegraph refers to the number actually seen in the final cut, whereas the Daily Mail refers to the number used for filming -- in other words, two ended up "on the cutting room floor". If anybody could clear this up, it would be appreciated. Thanks, — 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 ( talk) 16:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)