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Move to new page titled 1992 Little League World Series - The page should not be moved into this page, which is on the Little League World Series in general, not just the 1992 event. Rather, there is precedent on this subject to create individual pages for the specific tournaments - 2000, 2005 and 2006 have their own Wikipedia pages, titled 2000 Little League World Series, etc. I would suggest that the page regarding the 1992 controversy be moved to a new page dedicated just to the 1992 Little League World Series, on which other information could be added if other Wikipedians wish to expand it.-- DaveOinSF 18:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The winning and losing teams were reversed. I've switched them back to show Japan as the winning team based on this article: [1]
Shouldn't it be "4 states" that don't crown a state champion: California, Texas, S. Dakota, and N. Dakota?
Nysports 00:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Nysports
Seeing no objection I changed 3 exceptions to 4
Maybe I'm missing the point, but, shouldn't the links go to the winning team, not the town? Trekphiler 01:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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There should be section on critics of the LLWS. Many believe that it puts too much pressure on the kids, and gives viewers who are kids the wrong impression of what sports should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.229.128.169 ( talk) 13:49, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
The LLWS website shows the creation of a new Europe region, split off from the EMEA (now just MEA, presumably for Middle East and Africa). Transatlantic has disappeared. Does anyone know the details? Megarockman ( talk) 19:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Kentucky is listed for winning the 1989 LLWS. It was actually Trumbull CT, led by NHL star Chris Drury, who won the 1989 LLWS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.251.142 ( talk) 16:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
So the past champions list on the LLWS website mentions all the Taiwanese teams as "Chinese Taipei", but most of the LLWS-related articles on Wikipedia still refer to them as Taiwan (especially because they sometimes get reverted to back to Taiwan when they had been Chinese Taipei), including this very article. Doesn't this mean Taiwan should be referred to as Chinese Taipei on all the LLWS articles? As far as I know, every Taiwanese team in an international competition, such as the Olympics or the World Baseball Classic, goes by Chinese Taipei because they have to. Tampabay721 ( talk) 06:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I know many of you cannot understand the relation between Chinese Taipei and Taiwan has how much different to others.Taiwan is not so popular now, if you still use "Chinese Taipei" to replace "Taiwan" in the title "country", it'll be a big disaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.160.28.252 ( talk) 09:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The section states that the US is tied with The International teams with 32 titles apiece. However, this does not mention the fact that the US has appeared in every LLWS, while several editions of the LLWS were US-Only (Notably in 1975.) This also neglects to mention that the US is guaranteed a spot in the Championship game, which gives them a 50/50 chance of winning the LLWS. A better table would be to put the international teams championship tally by country vs the individual US states. This would mean the the top 5 would be Taiwan with 17, then Japan with 7 then California with 4. etc. This would give some objectivity on a clearly American-biased event. 1906cubs ( talk) 20:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
So I updated the champions page and put "Taiwan" in up to 1986. For some reason little league reverted to calling it Taiwan for '94 and '95, so i used Taiwan for those years also. The basis for this is the tournament brackets on ll.org for each year, i assume this is official and therefore is a valid reason to use Taiwan. 1906cubs ( talk) 22:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I think it would be great to add a US bar at the top for the winners table, perhaps with the US name italicized and rank given as just a dash. Similar to how the EU is listed in tables that also include EU countries. The addition would look like this:
| — ||
United States || 34 ||
1947,
1948,
1949,
1950,
1951,
1952,
1953,
1954,
1955,
1956,
1959,
1960,
1961,
1962,
1963,
1964,
1965,
1966,
1970,
1975,
1982,
1983,
1989,
1992,
1993,
1998,
2002,
2005,
2006,
2007,
2008,
2009,
2011,
2016
|-
People have rejected this in the past but I think it does improve Wikipedia by making the information about when the US won that much clearer. Woshiwaiguoren ( talk) 06:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
After fruitless google searches I have concluded that the championship telecasts by abc from the 70's through the 90's are nowhere to be found. It would be nice if those games could be put on the internet. I'm sure that abc (or espn now) has those tapes in their archives somewhere. Perhaps if ll.org was e-mailed they could talk to espn, they would throw a little more weight around than a random individual. Maybe little league does not want those games to be released, due to the futility of the U.S. during those periods. I for one am curious to see just how good those far east teams were, especially Taiwan. 1906cubs ( talk) 02:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Little League attempts to present this as a world event celebrating fairness and sportsmanship. However, this "world" series guarantees a spot in the title game for a US team. Allows at least half of the competing teams to be from the United States, most years the majority of teams are from the US with expat teams from overseas. This event seems great on the surface, but when one looks into the details the outcome of large bias in favor of the US is unmistakable.
One piece of evidence I found to support this was which stadium the games are played in. In 2001 a new stadium "Volunteer" was built when the field doubled to 16 teams. However, Volunteer is clearly the 2nd rate stadium when compared to Lamade. Lamade features the picturesque hillside outfield that allows thousands of spectators. Volunteer looks like a normal little league field by comparison. With this in mind, look at the stadium assingments for pool play games on the International and US sides.
US games played in Lamade-6-7-5-5-9-10-6-9-8-13-12-12- Total=102
International games Lamade-5-5-6-6-5-4-5-5-5-2-3-4-Total=55
US games in Volunteer-6-5-7-7-3-2-5-3-4-1-1-1- Total=45
Int games in Volunteer-7-7-6-6-7-8-6-7-7-10-9-9- Total=89
Seeing the data it is clear that at the beginning of the 2 park era the games were evenly split, with the International side even playing more games in Lamade. However, it should be noted that many of the Lamade games that the international side gets are at the beginning of each session, the primetime games are almost always US. But for the past few years a trend is beginning to develop. Lamade is becoming the US field, with some marquee International games. And Volunteer is becoming the International field. Little League tries to pass this event off as being wholesome, even going as far as forcing the kids to wear "I won't cheat" on their uniforms. But it is clear that their intention is for a US event, with a side show that is the international tournament over at Volunteer. 1906cubs ( talk) 00:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I used to think that for each year, identifying each team that made it to Williamsport by the region they won (i.e. West, Mid-Atlantic, Latin America, Asia-Pacific) was the right way to go since the flag that preceded the name was right there, so I changed many of the articles throughout the years to be heavy on regions. Although I've begun to think that most readers aren't able to identify each state or country's flag. I'm proposing for anyone out there who sees this to give an opinion on whether it should be standard in the playoff bracket to identify each team just by the country or state they represent. I know previously teams would be identified by city and country, but I feel that would be too long. For example, the 2009 elimination round would show as:
Quarter-finals | Semi-finals | Final | ||||||||
August 26 – 4:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
C2
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August 29 – Noon – Lamade | ||||||||||
D1
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August 27 – 4:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
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D2
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August 30 – 3:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
C1
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![]() | 3 | |||||||||
August 26 – 8:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
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A2
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August 29 – 7:00 pm – Lamade (F/4) | ||||||||||
B1
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![]() | 2 | |||||||||
August 27 – 8:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
![]() | 12 | Third place | ||||||||
B2
![]() | 11 | |||||||||
August 30 – 11:00 am – Volunteer | ||||||||||
A1
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I'm not informed on exactly what happened around 1975, other than there seemed to be accusations, investigations and decisions that occurred that, for better or worse, were extremely important to the history of the LLWS. Perhaps a paragraph or two outlining this time period would be fitting, including a brief summary of how key rules or LL audits and documentation requirement changed as a result of this period. I'm not nearly informed enough to write it, other than hearing a bunch of accusations as a player at that time (Taiwan was really sending all-star teams instead of local teams, trained year-round and many other accusations.
The Champions list current has Calexico, CA as the runner-up to Seoul in 1985. However, the team is listed as being from Mexicali, Mexico because it advanced via California tournaments, so shouldn't that town be the one listed? 72.82.176.252 ( talk) 00:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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I'm open to discuss the edits being made on the LLWS wikipedia page. In the table that tallies the championships, I feel the US as a country should be represented on the table. I put the U.S. rank on the table with a dash (-), meaning that they aren't apart of the ranking but have the most championships. This same kind of situation can be seen on the GDP page /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal). On this page the European Union is represented with a dash (-) as they have the unofficial 2nd highest GDP but aren't a single country. Since the table tallies championships by states for the U.S. I can see why people may disagree, but the fact that other countries are represented on the table means that the U.S. should be represented as well, even if they are unofficial. I saw as one of your arguments was that no team is represented as the "U.S", however, that is false. The team that wins the U.S. half of the tournament goes into the finals represented as the United States as well as by their state name. For the first column of the page I feel the United States should also be represented as the team with the most championships. However, I agree that Taiwan should be included as well since people may argue that the states win the championships for the state while the foreign countries represent just that country. So if we can make for some way for the column on the first page to show both Taiwan and the U.S. having the most championships, or use an * or () to show that the U.S. has the unofficial most titles, that would be ideal. Moreover, I feel that firstly on the table that shows the tallies of championships, the U.S. should absolutely be represented with a dash (-) to show that they have the unofficial most and Taiwan still has the most, and second and lastly, that for the first column that some compromise that shows Taiwan as the official most and the U.S. as the the unofficial most should be present. I hope you take this into consideration so we can make a compromise that is best for the article. I'm not the first or even only person to have these views, so this should deeply be taken into consideration.
Best regards
- John Grizxel — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTbook365 ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Just a follow up, i re edited the page. The table that tallies the championships should be kept the same, however, please change the top column on the front page accordingly to make it look better. I tried my best to make some kind of comprise but I can use some work. Thanks in advance lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTbook365 ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I believe that in both the header which indicates the country with most titles, and in the championship tally section, that the United States should be added as a recognized team. The United States as an overall country in this tournament have won 35 titles. On the opening header, the country indicated with the most championships is Taiwan with 17 championships. However, this is just wrong since the U.S. holds claim to way more titles. On the current version of the page on the championship tally section, international countries are tallied against U.S. states, which doesn't make any logical sense. I feel that a US bar should be added at the top for the winners table, perhaps with the US name italicized and rank given as just a dash. Similar to how the EU is listed in tables that also include EU countries. The addition would look like this:
| — ||
United States || 35 ||
1947,
1948,
1949,
1950,
1951,
1952,
1953,
1954,
1955,
1956,
1959,
1960,
1961,
1962,
1963,
1964,
1965,
1966,
1970,
1975,
1982,
1983,
1989,
1992,
1993,
1998,
2002,
2005,
2006,
2007,
2008,
2009,
2011,
2016,
2018
|-
Even though other arguments have been made that the tournament always has a U.S. based team in the finals, there are also other facts equally as relevant such as the fact that Japan which has less than 1,000 teams gets to compete automatically every single year while California that has over 22,000 teams has to fight other states every single year for an opportunity to go. Canada and Mexico also have automatic berths to the international competition. The number of U.S. participating teams compared to the amount of foreign teams does not even compare. Since the U.S. supplies majority of the teams and invented the tournament, its only fair that they always get a chance to be represented in the finals. On the ESPN coverage of the championship game this year in 2018, Hawaii (the American represented team in the finals) is represented by an American flag, thus showing that the United States is acknowledged as a team. The United States should be represented as a team in both the table and opening header.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTbook365 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Kiwifist: The problem with how the LLWS website presents the winners is that in the cases of Taiwan, not every instance is shown only as "Taiwan"; there is Taipei-Chinese Taipei, Tainan-Chinese Taipei, Kao Ksiung-Chinese Taipei, and others. If the article is sticking to a strict "state / province / district of origin" accounting of the winners, shouldn't that also be reflected under Taiwan as it is for US states? spintendo 00:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Just popped by this article and the table of past winners is a bit strange. Those state flags are ridiculous and should not be there at all. I was looking at most result sources and the Little League page itself, and they are not used. Using them here, just because we can, is not proper. If you look at the Little League's own list of champions, this list is done correctly as far as wording... city/country for International and city/state for USA. But they don't use flag icons for any countries, let alone ridiculous state flags. For all I know they do this for a reason to promote the kids and not the locations, but because they don't use them, we shouldn't use them here. I would suggest we dump all the icons in the chart and just do it like Little League does it. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 18:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please add noteworthy events about Gavin Weir? He has been phenomenal in the Little League World Series. Mastergerwe97 ( talk) 00:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Just curious why Cody Bellenger isn’t listed. They have shown him playing in the LLWS. Thx 2603:8000:8400:9897:1DD6:7525:CF19:7EBD ( talk) 20:35, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Not complaining on how it is, just curious of the history that set it up this way 207.231.25.47 ( talk) 00:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
When it comes to History no one is allowed to deviate from the truth. Here is the truth. For the year 1975 there was no Little League World Champion, period! Why? That year Little League Baseball banned ALL foreign teams(ie. The World) from competing at Williamsport. Only U.S. teams played that year so the winner(New Jersey) was the Little League U.S. Champion, not the Little League World Champion! The truth is in 1975 there was no Little League World Series played! If you see the year 1975 in combination with Little League World Series you know it is a Lie! No one, including Little League Baseball, has the power to alter History! 24.113.224.142 ( talk) 16:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Drew Storen needs added to pro players list 2601:805:8500:2340:D13E:8ADF:8F2F:5D19 ( talk) 19:11, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Move to new page titled 1992 Little League World Series - The page should not be moved into this page, which is on the Little League World Series in general, not just the 1992 event. Rather, there is precedent on this subject to create individual pages for the specific tournaments - 2000, 2005 and 2006 have their own Wikipedia pages, titled 2000 Little League World Series, etc. I would suggest that the page regarding the 1992 controversy be moved to a new page dedicated just to the 1992 Little League World Series, on which other information could be added if other Wikipedians wish to expand it.-- DaveOinSF 18:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The winning and losing teams were reversed. I've switched them back to show Japan as the winning team based on this article: [1]
Shouldn't it be "4 states" that don't crown a state champion: California, Texas, S. Dakota, and N. Dakota?
Nysports 00:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Nysports
Seeing no objection I changed 3 exceptions to 4
Maybe I'm missing the point, but, shouldn't the links go to the winning team, not the town? Trekphiler 01:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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There should be section on critics of the LLWS. Many believe that it puts too much pressure on the kids, and gives viewers who are kids the wrong impression of what sports should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.229.128.169 ( talk) 13:49, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
The LLWS website shows the creation of a new Europe region, split off from the EMEA (now just MEA, presumably for Middle East and Africa). Transatlantic has disappeared. Does anyone know the details? Megarockman ( talk) 19:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Kentucky is listed for winning the 1989 LLWS. It was actually Trumbull CT, led by NHL star Chris Drury, who won the 1989 LLWS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.251.142 ( talk) 16:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
So the past champions list on the LLWS website mentions all the Taiwanese teams as "Chinese Taipei", but most of the LLWS-related articles on Wikipedia still refer to them as Taiwan (especially because they sometimes get reverted to back to Taiwan when they had been Chinese Taipei), including this very article. Doesn't this mean Taiwan should be referred to as Chinese Taipei on all the LLWS articles? As far as I know, every Taiwanese team in an international competition, such as the Olympics or the World Baseball Classic, goes by Chinese Taipei because they have to. Tampabay721 ( talk) 06:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I know many of you cannot understand the relation between Chinese Taipei and Taiwan has how much different to others.Taiwan is not so popular now, if you still use "Chinese Taipei" to replace "Taiwan" in the title "country", it'll be a big disaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.160.28.252 ( talk) 09:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The section states that the US is tied with The International teams with 32 titles apiece. However, this does not mention the fact that the US has appeared in every LLWS, while several editions of the LLWS were US-Only (Notably in 1975.) This also neglects to mention that the US is guaranteed a spot in the Championship game, which gives them a 50/50 chance of winning the LLWS. A better table would be to put the international teams championship tally by country vs the individual US states. This would mean the the top 5 would be Taiwan with 17, then Japan with 7 then California with 4. etc. This would give some objectivity on a clearly American-biased event. 1906cubs ( talk) 20:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
So I updated the champions page and put "Taiwan" in up to 1986. For some reason little league reverted to calling it Taiwan for '94 and '95, so i used Taiwan for those years also. The basis for this is the tournament brackets on ll.org for each year, i assume this is official and therefore is a valid reason to use Taiwan. 1906cubs ( talk) 22:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I think it would be great to add a US bar at the top for the winners table, perhaps with the US name italicized and rank given as just a dash. Similar to how the EU is listed in tables that also include EU countries. The addition would look like this:
| — ||
United States || 34 ||
1947,
1948,
1949,
1950,
1951,
1952,
1953,
1954,
1955,
1956,
1959,
1960,
1961,
1962,
1963,
1964,
1965,
1966,
1970,
1975,
1982,
1983,
1989,
1992,
1993,
1998,
2002,
2005,
2006,
2007,
2008,
2009,
2011,
2016
|-
People have rejected this in the past but I think it does improve Wikipedia by making the information about when the US won that much clearer. Woshiwaiguoren ( talk) 06:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
After fruitless google searches I have concluded that the championship telecasts by abc from the 70's through the 90's are nowhere to be found. It would be nice if those games could be put on the internet. I'm sure that abc (or espn now) has those tapes in their archives somewhere. Perhaps if ll.org was e-mailed they could talk to espn, they would throw a little more weight around than a random individual. Maybe little league does not want those games to be released, due to the futility of the U.S. during those periods. I for one am curious to see just how good those far east teams were, especially Taiwan. 1906cubs ( talk) 02:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Little League attempts to present this as a world event celebrating fairness and sportsmanship. However, this "world" series guarantees a spot in the title game for a US team. Allows at least half of the competing teams to be from the United States, most years the majority of teams are from the US with expat teams from overseas. This event seems great on the surface, but when one looks into the details the outcome of large bias in favor of the US is unmistakable.
One piece of evidence I found to support this was which stadium the games are played in. In 2001 a new stadium "Volunteer" was built when the field doubled to 16 teams. However, Volunteer is clearly the 2nd rate stadium when compared to Lamade. Lamade features the picturesque hillside outfield that allows thousands of spectators. Volunteer looks like a normal little league field by comparison. With this in mind, look at the stadium assingments for pool play games on the International and US sides.
US games played in Lamade-6-7-5-5-9-10-6-9-8-13-12-12- Total=102
International games Lamade-5-5-6-6-5-4-5-5-5-2-3-4-Total=55
US games in Volunteer-6-5-7-7-3-2-5-3-4-1-1-1- Total=45
Int games in Volunteer-7-7-6-6-7-8-6-7-7-10-9-9- Total=89
Seeing the data it is clear that at the beginning of the 2 park era the games were evenly split, with the International side even playing more games in Lamade. However, it should be noted that many of the Lamade games that the international side gets are at the beginning of each session, the primetime games are almost always US. But for the past few years a trend is beginning to develop. Lamade is becoming the US field, with some marquee International games. And Volunteer is becoming the International field. Little League tries to pass this event off as being wholesome, even going as far as forcing the kids to wear "I won't cheat" on their uniforms. But it is clear that their intention is for a US event, with a side show that is the international tournament over at Volunteer. 1906cubs ( talk) 00:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I used to think that for each year, identifying each team that made it to Williamsport by the region they won (i.e. West, Mid-Atlantic, Latin America, Asia-Pacific) was the right way to go since the flag that preceded the name was right there, so I changed many of the articles throughout the years to be heavy on regions. Although I've begun to think that most readers aren't able to identify each state or country's flag. I'm proposing for anyone out there who sees this to give an opinion on whether it should be standard in the playoff bracket to identify each team just by the country or state they represent. I know previously teams would be identified by city and country, but I feel that would be too long. For example, the 2009 elimination round would show as:
Quarter-finals | Semi-finals | Final | ||||||||
August 26 – 4:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
C2
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August 29 – Noon – Lamade | ||||||||||
D1
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August 27 – 4:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
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D2
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August 30 – 3:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
C1
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August 26 – 8:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
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A2
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August 29 – 7:00 pm – Lamade (F/4) | ||||||||||
B1
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August 27 – 8:00 pm – Lamade | ||||||||||
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B2
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August 30 – 11:00 am – Volunteer | ||||||||||
A1
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I'm not informed on exactly what happened around 1975, other than there seemed to be accusations, investigations and decisions that occurred that, for better or worse, were extremely important to the history of the LLWS. Perhaps a paragraph or two outlining this time period would be fitting, including a brief summary of how key rules or LL audits and documentation requirement changed as a result of this period. I'm not nearly informed enough to write it, other than hearing a bunch of accusations as a player at that time (Taiwan was really sending all-star teams instead of local teams, trained year-round and many other accusations.
The Champions list current has Calexico, CA as the runner-up to Seoul in 1985. However, the team is listed as being from Mexicali, Mexico because it advanced via California tournaments, so shouldn't that town be the one listed? 72.82.176.252 ( talk) 00:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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I'm open to discuss the edits being made on the LLWS wikipedia page. In the table that tallies the championships, I feel the US as a country should be represented on the table. I put the U.S. rank on the table with a dash (-), meaning that they aren't apart of the ranking but have the most championships. This same kind of situation can be seen on the GDP page /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal). On this page the European Union is represented with a dash (-) as they have the unofficial 2nd highest GDP but aren't a single country. Since the table tallies championships by states for the U.S. I can see why people may disagree, but the fact that other countries are represented on the table means that the U.S. should be represented as well, even if they are unofficial. I saw as one of your arguments was that no team is represented as the "U.S", however, that is false. The team that wins the U.S. half of the tournament goes into the finals represented as the United States as well as by their state name. For the first column of the page I feel the United States should also be represented as the team with the most championships. However, I agree that Taiwan should be included as well since people may argue that the states win the championships for the state while the foreign countries represent just that country. So if we can make for some way for the column on the first page to show both Taiwan and the U.S. having the most championships, or use an * or () to show that the U.S. has the unofficial most titles, that would be ideal. Moreover, I feel that firstly on the table that shows the tallies of championships, the U.S. should absolutely be represented with a dash (-) to show that they have the unofficial most and Taiwan still has the most, and second and lastly, that for the first column that some compromise that shows Taiwan as the official most and the U.S. as the the unofficial most should be present. I hope you take this into consideration so we can make a compromise that is best for the article. I'm not the first or even only person to have these views, so this should deeply be taken into consideration.
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Just a follow up, i re edited the page. The table that tallies the championships should be kept the same, however, please change the top column on the front page accordingly to make it look better. I tried my best to make some kind of comprise but I can use some work. Thanks in advance lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTbook365 ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I believe that in both the header which indicates the country with most titles, and in the championship tally section, that the United States should be added as a recognized team. The United States as an overall country in this tournament have won 35 titles. On the opening header, the country indicated with the most championships is Taiwan with 17 championships. However, this is just wrong since the U.S. holds claim to way more titles. On the current version of the page on the championship tally section, international countries are tallied against U.S. states, which doesn't make any logical sense. I feel that a US bar should be added at the top for the winners table, perhaps with the US name italicized and rank given as just a dash. Similar to how the EU is listed in tables that also include EU countries. The addition would look like this:
| — ||
United States || 35 ||
1947,
1948,
1949,
1950,
1951,
1952,
1953,
1954,
1955,
1956,
1959,
1960,
1961,
1962,
1963,
1964,
1965,
1966,
1970,
1975,
1982,
1983,
1989,
1992,
1993,
1998,
2002,
2005,
2006,
2007,
2008,
2009,
2011,
2016,
2018
|-
Even though other arguments have been made that the tournament always has a U.S. based team in the finals, there are also other facts equally as relevant such as the fact that Japan which has less than 1,000 teams gets to compete automatically every single year while California that has over 22,000 teams has to fight other states every single year for an opportunity to go. Canada and Mexico also have automatic berths to the international competition. The number of U.S. participating teams compared to the amount of foreign teams does not even compare. Since the U.S. supplies majority of the teams and invented the tournament, its only fair that they always get a chance to be represented in the finals. On the ESPN coverage of the championship game this year in 2018, Hawaii (the American represented team in the finals) is represented by an American flag, thus showing that the United States is acknowledged as a team. The United States should be represented as a team in both the table and opening header.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTbook365 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Kiwifist: The problem with how the LLWS website presents the winners is that in the cases of Taiwan, not every instance is shown only as "Taiwan"; there is Taipei-Chinese Taipei, Tainan-Chinese Taipei, Kao Ksiung-Chinese Taipei, and others. If the article is sticking to a strict "state / province / district of origin" accounting of the winners, shouldn't that also be reflected under Taiwan as it is for US states? spintendo 00:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Just popped by this article and the table of past winners is a bit strange. Those state flags are ridiculous and should not be there at all. I was looking at most result sources and the Little League page itself, and they are not used. Using them here, just because we can, is not proper. If you look at the Little League's own list of champions, this list is done correctly as far as wording... city/country for International and city/state for USA. But they don't use flag icons for any countries, let alone ridiculous state flags. For all I know they do this for a reason to promote the kids and not the locations, but because they don't use them, we shouldn't use them here. I would suggest we dump all the icons in the chart and just do it like Little League does it. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 18:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please add noteworthy events about Gavin Weir? He has been phenomenal in the Little League World Series. Mastergerwe97 ( talk) 00:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Just curious why Cody Bellenger isn’t listed. They have shown him playing in the LLWS. Thx 2603:8000:8400:9897:1DD6:7525:CF19:7EBD ( talk) 20:35, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Not complaining on how it is, just curious of the history that set it up this way 207.231.25.47 ( talk) 00:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
When it comes to History no one is allowed to deviate from the truth. Here is the truth. For the year 1975 there was no Little League World Champion, period! Why? That year Little League Baseball banned ALL foreign teams(ie. The World) from competing at Williamsport. Only U.S. teams played that year so the winner(New Jersey) was the Little League U.S. Champion, not the Little League World Champion! The truth is in 1975 there was no Little League World Series played! If you see the year 1975 in combination with Little League World Series you know it is a Lie! No one, including Little League Baseball, has the power to alter History! 24.113.224.142 ( talk) 16:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Drew Storen needs added to pro players list 2601:805:8500:2340:D13E:8ADF:8F2F:5D19 ( talk) 19:11, 27 August 2023 (UTC)