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An odd subset of the (arguably too inclusive) list at Wiki software; not really encyclopedic and of little value. Orphaned apart from a whole load of redirects, PhpWiki (which is a sub-stub anyway) and MySQL (as a "see also"). - IMSoP 16:51, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
OK, so clearly I didn't garner consensus that this page should be deleted outright, so let's discuss some more. As mentioned, I personally think the list of Wiki engines we have at the moment is excessive: remember, Wikipedia is not a web directory. Given that there are more complete lists elsewhere, I'm arguing for a severe pruning of the list: see Talk:Wiki software#Huge list of engines considered harmful.
But even orthogonal to that, I think that having ones that use MySQL as a subset is a bit arbitrary: there are many dimensions on which the different engines differ, the most obvious being what language they are written in (although even that is more convenient for list-maintainers than those looking for an engine). The fact that a piece of software uses MySQL rather than, say, PostgreSQL is just a design decision; that it uses a database rather than a set of individual files could be seen as a feature, but is hardly the single most important one. If we really wanted to have lots of categorised lists of wiki engines, we could have a List of wiki software by data storage type or somesuch (one big file vs file-per-page vs MySQL vs PostgreSQL etc). Personally, I think maintaining such a page would be a waste of time, since WikiWikiWeb:WikiChoicetree already attempts this, and can just be referenced as being the canonical place to find such information. - IMSoP 16:05, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I've moved "Wiki engines using MySQL" to "List of wiki software" as we should not classify Wiki software according to DBMS. Minghong 10:48, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) Type in plain english
For those who didn't notice, I would like to kindly point out that minghong in his edit on 10:15, 2005 May 8, with an edit summary reading Keep the lists sorted in the same edit action also removed all external links on all entries where a wikipedia article exists on this lists.
What do you all think about that removal of said external links? -- Adrian Buehlmann 21:26, 2005 May 9 (UTC)
In case everyone agrees that there ought to be _some_ sort of wiki listing, here's a few more (link broken on purpose to avoid referrals):
h t t p:// the.taoofmac.com/space/OtherWikis
Wiki on a Stick has been erased after an AFD review. Would someone edit it's content to give an external link to the software's home page? Also, GetWiki is currently under AFD review, so it also may need an external link within a few days.
No idea why Kwiki is mentioned as supported by other wiki software but is not present directly under Perl section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.108.171.131 ( talk) 19:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
The Wiki link to Riki is wrong. It leads to Iván Sánchez-Rico Soto. There needs to be some kind of disambiguation or something... Capeboy 22:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
"Seaside, a web-design framework similar to Rails." That is not true they differ very much RoR is a pretty conventional framework even a bit conservative compared to some java frameworks. But seaside is a very different and technically interesting approach.
It would be great if someone could draw a wiki software history diagram similar to this one for Unix: Image:Unix-history.svg. -- Teratornis 02:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it's incorrect a wiki system can be based on windows or only run under windows. The .NET framework has been ported using Mono (software). Maybe languages like ASP still don't run on non-windows, but at least C# does.
"This is a list of notable wiki software applications." I assume this means applications that have their own wikipedia article, until we form consensus on a different list inclusion criteria per WP:LIST. -- Ronz 17:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Testing usability...black box testing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.67.4.61 ( talk) 07:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm - Its probably not occurred to anyone else, but just wondering if anybody developed plug-ins, add-ons or any such feature that helps create Wiki-pages and links which works with Adobe Dream-weaver CS6 or any other program in the Adobe Design and Masters CS6 stable of programs, allowing our colleagues working in archives sections of Aspies and Auties, ICAAN and such groups sharing with us using dropbox to share from catalogue and archives pages, content, images, news, reports between users and from that create wiki sites and pages which we can assist and refine as editors with our help in a kind of archive source material, web and wikify and edit relay race between all of our colleagues in and around the autistic spectrum and us outside the spectrum and web-editors assisting with other disabilities who volunteers who assist the on archiving and wikification of documentation, reports, news and web material from the last 20 years of Aspies and Auties culture, language and community? AspieNo1 ( talk) 09:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Strange this whole page is about the underlying platform rather than the application. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.206.242 ( talk) 13:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Came here by a wikipedia-redirect searching for Voodoo Pad. Redirect page exists but not one word here about Voodoo Pad. Didn't help me at all. Colin McTroll ( talk) 20:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm confused how the WikkaWiki addition (which, up until 2016 had a presence here since the early 2000's) is considered "promotion" when there's a commercial entity (MindTouch) that's clearly promoting its SaaS offerings. There seems to be some confusion here on the part of Orangemike about what "promotion" really is. Brianko ( talk) 04:09, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
The link to Wagn currently points to the page of one Fred G. Meyer, a grocery retail magnate, and specifically his philanthropic efforts, and not to the page for a CMS software platform called Wagn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.4.199 ( talk) 05:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
In the 'Other languages' section - especially with just a generic definition of a window, seems completely out of place here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E001:8:A900:6E62:6DFF:FE05:AE29 ( talk) 05:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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An odd subset of the (arguably too inclusive) list at Wiki software; not really encyclopedic and of little value. Orphaned apart from a whole load of redirects, PhpWiki (which is a sub-stub anyway) and MySQL (as a "see also"). - IMSoP 16:51, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
OK, so clearly I didn't garner consensus that this page should be deleted outright, so let's discuss some more. As mentioned, I personally think the list of Wiki engines we have at the moment is excessive: remember, Wikipedia is not a web directory. Given that there are more complete lists elsewhere, I'm arguing for a severe pruning of the list: see Talk:Wiki software#Huge list of engines considered harmful.
But even orthogonal to that, I think that having ones that use MySQL as a subset is a bit arbitrary: there are many dimensions on which the different engines differ, the most obvious being what language they are written in (although even that is more convenient for list-maintainers than those looking for an engine). The fact that a piece of software uses MySQL rather than, say, PostgreSQL is just a design decision; that it uses a database rather than a set of individual files could be seen as a feature, but is hardly the single most important one. If we really wanted to have lots of categorised lists of wiki engines, we could have a List of wiki software by data storage type or somesuch (one big file vs file-per-page vs MySQL vs PostgreSQL etc). Personally, I think maintaining such a page would be a waste of time, since WikiWikiWeb:WikiChoicetree already attempts this, and can just be referenced as being the canonical place to find such information. - IMSoP 16:05, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I've moved "Wiki engines using MySQL" to "List of wiki software" as we should not classify Wiki software according to DBMS. Minghong 10:48, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) Type in plain english
For those who didn't notice, I would like to kindly point out that minghong in his edit on 10:15, 2005 May 8, with an edit summary reading Keep the lists sorted in the same edit action also removed all external links on all entries where a wikipedia article exists on this lists.
What do you all think about that removal of said external links? -- Adrian Buehlmann 21:26, 2005 May 9 (UTC)
In case everyone agrees that there ought to be _some_ sort of wiki listing, here's a few more (link broken on purpose to avoid referrals):
h t t p:// the.taoofmac.com/space/OtherWikis
Wiki on a Stick has been erased after an AFD review. Would someone edit it's content to give an external link to the software's home page? Also, GetWiki is currently under AFD review, so it also may need an external link within a few days.
No idea why Kwiki is mentioned as supported by other wiki software but is not present directly under Perl section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.108.171.131 ( talk) 19:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
The Wiki link to Riki is wrong. It leads to Iván Sánchez-Rico Soto. There needs to be some kind of disambiguation or something... Capeboy 22:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
"Seaside, a web-design framework similar to Rails." That is not true they differ very much RoR is a pretty conventional framework even a bit conservative compared to some java frameworks. But seaside is a very different and technically interesting approach.
It would be great if someone could draw a wiki software history diagram similar to this one for Unix: Image:Unix-history.svg. -- Teratornis 02:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it's incorrect a wiki system can be based on windows or only run under windows. The .NET framework has been ported using Mono (software). Maybe languages like ASP still don't run on non-windows, but at least C# does.
"This is a list of notable wiki software applications." I assume this means applications that have their own wikipedia article, until we form consensus on a different list inclusion criteria per WP:LIST. -- Ronz 17:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Testing usability...black box testing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.67.4.61 ( talk) 07:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm - Its probably not occurred to anyone else, but just wondering if anybody developed plug-ins, add-ons or any such feature that helps create Wiki-pages and links which works with Adobe Dream-weaver CS6 or any other program in the Adobe Design and Masters CS6 stable of programs, allowing our colleagues working in archives sections of Aspies and Auties, ICAAN and such groups sharing with us using dropbox to share from catalogue and archives pages, content, images, news, reports between users and from that create wiki sites and pages which we can assist and refine as editors with our help in a kind of archive source material, web and wikify and edit relay race between all of our colleagues in and around the autistic spectrum and us outside the spectrum and web-editors assisting with other disabilities who volunteers who assist the on archiving and wikification of documentation, reports, news and web material from the last 20 years of Aspies and Auties culture, language and community? AspieNo1 ( talk) 09:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Strange this whole page is about the underlying platform rather than the application. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.206.242 ( talk) 13:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Came here by a wikipedia-redirect searching for Voodoo Pad. Redirect page exists but not one word here about Voodoo Pad. Didn't help me at all. Colin McTroll ( talk) 20:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm confused how the WikkaWiki addition (which, up until 2016 had a presence here since the early 2000's) is considered "promotion" when there's a commercial entity (MindTouch) that's clearly promoting its SaaS offerings. There seems to be some confusion here on the part of Orangemike about what "promotion" really is. Brianko ( talk) 04:09, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
The link to Wagn currently points to the page of one Fred G. Meyer, a grocery retail magnate, and specifically his philanthropic efforts, and not to the page for a CMS software platform called Wagn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.4.199 ( talk) 05:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
In the 'Other languages' section - especially with just a generic definition of a window, seems completely out of place here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E001:8:A900:6E62:6DFF:FE05:AE29 ( talk) 05:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)