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Shouldn't there be the Albanian-Venetian wars in 1447 be included as well?And the Ottoman-Albanian wars from 1432-1468? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.99.9.228 ( talk) 14:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
It appears that this list includes a pov collection of conflicts in which irregular Albanian groups fought against the the Ottoman authorities. I wonder why conflicts in which Albanian irregulars allied with the same authorities are completely absent here. Moreover, as part of the extreme wp:or the flags of the 1830s are completely fictiοnal, not to mention that Yanina was never captured by Albanian irregulars (in the c. 1839 uprising nothing was captured south of Berat). A good approach is to support the mentioned facts with inline references else these should be removed per policy. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
I see that ninja-edits continue, even the pov tag is removed without the slightest explanation here, thus this leaves me no choice to restore the latest stable version. Alexikoua ( talk) 13:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Revolts of 1833–1839 Revolt of 1843–1844 Revolt of 1845 Revolt of 1847 League of Prizren League of Peja Revolt of 1910 Revolt of 1911 Battle of Deçiq Revolt of 1912 In that order. I have recalled these wars on this article and now that I have finished, I will add other conflicts. Unless you want to add some information to this article too that would improve the quality of the article rather than complaining about POV. Ujkrieger ( talk) 18:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Eine eigenständige albanische Kultur gab es nicht. Es empfiehlt sich deshalb, Anstelle von Albanien den Terminus "albanischer Raum" einzuführen, der keine Assoziationen mit einem politischen Gebilde oder einer besonderen Kultur aufkommen lässt, sondern darauf hinweist, das "Albanien" im Mittelalter ein geographicer Begriff ist.
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Antidiskriminator (
talk) 14:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)Then Antidiskriminator,how come in the "List of wars involving Serbia" or "List of wars involving Greece" conflicts which date back before their declaration of independence are also included but here not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixious6 ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I think the page would look nicer with 25px flags. -- FPSTurkey ( talk) 11:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Should the battles of medieval Albanian principalities and the modern Albanian state be separated?-- Zoupan 22:05, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Greece
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Russia
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_France
Anyway I added different time sections to avoid confusion (pre-Ottoman, Ottoman, WW1, Interwar, Modern etc.).
I would think that the article for List of wars involving Serbia would look better if medieval and modern history were merged. I added a link to medieval conflict in the intro.
Ujkrieger (
talk) 11:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
A decent explanation is needed why the editor uses aggresive language [ [2]] and insists on labelling everything that contains the word Greek as pov [ [3]]. The discrepancy is still evident in the attempt to remove the Greek revolutionary flag from the army that fought under a Major general of the Greek Army (M. Botsaris) and commanding general of the Greek army of western Greece, with a flag that was used prior to the outbreak of the Greek revolution (pre-1821).
Alexikoua ( talk) 19:16, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Ελληνικά: Σημαία του Μάρκου Μπότσαρη κατά την Ελληνική Επανάσταση.". Even the Greek who uploaded the flag says that Botsaris used this flag during the Greek War of Independence, and hence during the battle of Karpenisi. Ujkrieger ( talk) 18:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, a pause is good. Allows for reflection. Balkan topics have their own momentum... sadly at times. Like i said, Ujkrieger ought to focus on wp:relaible and wp:secondary sources before getting into muddles like this. Best. Resnjari ( talk) 20:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
I have not looked into it properly at this point in time, but nonetheless i have to bring it up as its been on my mind for a while. Was Albania part of the coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003. Did it send some troops, or even, was it part of the post invasion era occupation force and sent some troops to assist the USA ? If so should we create and add a section ? Clarification by editors would be most welcome on the matter. Best. Resnjari ( talk) 20:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Someone removed the insurgency in Macedonia and insurgency in Kosovo. This page is a list of wars that Albanian states and Albanian forces have been involved in. NLA and KLA were Albanian forces that have been involved in these insurgencies. So they should be added in this list as well. With the same logic, we should remove Kosovo war because in fact KLA was the main force that fought the Yugoslav forces and Albania only supported them. I will add back these insurgencies. Have a nice day. Dardanus 75 ( talk) 11:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
I wish that the Wars were the Illiryans participated would be Shown to. 2A02:908:D10:A9C0:B846:8E09:6624:CF0A ( talk) 13:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
It's not relevant to this article. Alexikoua ( talk) 22:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
I would like to kindly remind kaiseredit that this site is a summary of conflicts lead by Albanian troops, forces, state etc. not Bulgaria in addition of usual WP:OR inserted informations with quite a number of weasel words. You should use a talk page first with reliable source presentation which means that WP: Onus is also applied here. Thank you. Theonewithreason ( talk) 19:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
User:Nysreti1 keeps reinstating a POV item that has been extensively discussed in the past; for example, in this AfD from some months ago. On top of that, they linked it to an unrelated page which they view as a reference (showing ignorance of WP:CIRCULAR), and doesn't say anything about such a war; instead, it only mentions a single aviation incident with a pipe link to Operation Pyrsos, which was a battle that marked the end of the Greek Civil War (already included as an item in this stand-alone list). Demetrios1993 ( talk) 02:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
why were some conflicts removed: like the Albania yugoslavia border war of 1998, or the wars in kosovo, presevo, macedoonia. even the iraq war. albania participated in all these battles. and why is illyrian wars not included? 82.3.27.121 ( talk) 16:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I have started cleanup on the article. There was a substantial amount of entries that clearly did not meet the article criteria, clearly stated in the lede and title, this is a list of wars.
I believe that the North Epirus war 1914, Civil war 1997, Revolts 1833-43 should all be added, since, they are wars, and they involve albania 82.3.27.121 ( talk) 18:49, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Make another section for ancient albania or illyria from 678 BC to 9 AD
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Shouldn't there be the Albanian-Venetian wars in 1447 be included as well?And the Ottoman-Albanian wars from 1432-1468? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.99.9.228 ( talk) 14:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
It appears that this list includes a pov collection of conflicts in which irregular Albanian groups fought against the the Ottoman authorities. I wonder why conflicts in which Albanian irregulars allied with the same authorities are completely absent here. Moreover, as part of the extreme wp:or the flags of the 1830s are completely fictiοnal, not to mention that Yanina was never captured by Albanian irregulars (in the c. 1839 uprising nothing was captured south of Berat). A good approach is to support the mentioned facts with inline references else these should be removed per policy. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
I see that ninja-edits continue, even the pov tag is removed without the slightest explanation here, thus this leaves me no choice to restore the latest stable version. Alexikoua ( talk) 13:40, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Revolts of 1833–1839 Revolt of 1843–1844 Revolt of 1845 Revolt of 1847 League of Prizren League of Peja Revolt of 1910 Revolt of 1911 Battle of Deçiq Revolt of 1912 In that order. I have recalled these wars on this article and now that I have finished, I will add other conflicts. Unless you want to add some information to this article too that would improve the quality of the article rather than complaining about POV. Ujkrieger ( talk) 18:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Eine eigenständige albanische Kultur gab es nicht. Es empfiehlt sich deshalb, Anstelle von Albanien den Terminus "albanischer Raum" einzuführen, der keine Assoziationen mit einem politischen Gebilde oder einer besonderen Kultur aufkommen lässt, sondern darauf hinweist, das "Albanien" im Mittelalter ein geographicer Begriff ist.
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help); no-break space character in |quote=
at position 19 (
help)) That was exactly what stable version of this article said (
permanent link) before
Ujkrieger performed massive changes. Taking in consideration that this massive changes failed to gain consensus, the stable version should be restored and major changes should be first discussed as per
WP:CAUTIOUS wikipedia policy.--
Antidiskriminator (
talk) 14:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)Then Antidiskriminator,how come in the "List of wars involving Serbia" or "List of wars involving Greece" conflicts which date back before their declaration of independence are also included but here not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixious6 ( talk • contribs) 19:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I think the page would look nicer with 25px flags. -- FPSTurkey ( talk) 11:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Should the battles of medieval Albanian principalities and the modern Albanian state be separated?-- Zoupan 22:05, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Greece
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_Russia
/info/en/?search=List_of_wars_involving_France
Anyway I added different time sections to avoid confusion (pre-Ottoman, Ottoman, WW1, Interwar, Modern etc.).
I would think that the article for List of wars involving Serbia would look better if medieval and modern history were merged. I added a link to medieval conflict in the intro.
Ujkrieger (
talk) 11:34, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
A decent explanation is needed why the editor uses aggresive language [ [2]] and insists on labelling everything that contains the word Greek as pov [ [3]]. The discrepancy is still evident in the attempt to remove the Greek revolutionary flag from the army that fought under a Major general of the Greek Army (M. Botsaris) and commanding general of the Greek army of western Greece, with a flag that was used prior to the outbreak of the Greek revolution (pre-1821).
Alexikoua ( talk) 19:16, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Ελληνικά: Σημαία του Μάρκου Μπότσαρη κατά την Ελληνική Επανάσταση.". Even the Greek who uploaded the flag says that Botsaris used this flag during the Greek War of Independence, and hence during the battle of Karpenisi. Ujkrieger ( talk) 18:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, a pause is good. Allows for reflection. Balkan topics have their own momentum... sadly at times. Like i said, Ujkrieger ought to focus on wp:relaible and wp:secondary sources before getting into muddles like this. Best. Resnjari ( talk) 20:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
I have not looked into it properly at this point in time, but nonetheless i have to bring it up as its been on my mind for a while. Was Albania part of the coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003. Did it send some troops, or even, was it part of the post invasion era occupation force and sent some troops to assist the USA ? If so should we create and add a section ? Clarification by editors would be most welcome on the matter. Best. Resnjari ( talk) 20:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Someone removed the insurgency in Macedonia and insurgency in Kosovo. This page is a list of wars that Albanian states and Albanian forces have been involved in. NLA and KLA were Albanian forces that have been involved in these insurgencies. So they should be added in this list as well. With the same logic, we should remove Kosovo war because in fact KLA was the main force that fought the Yugoslav forces and Albania only supported them. I will add back these insurgencies. Have a nice day. Dardanus 75 ( talk) 11:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
I wish that the Wars were the Illiryans participated would be Shown to. 2A02:908:D10:A9C0:B846:8E09:6624:CF0A ( talk) 13:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
It's not relevant to this article. Alexikoua ( talk) 22:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
I would like to kindly remind kaiseredit that this site is a summary of conflicts lead by Albanian troops, forces, state etc. not Bulgaria in addition of usual WP:OR inserted informations with quite a number of weasel words. You should use a talk page first with reliable source presentation which means that WP: Onus is also applied here. Thank you. Theonewithreason ( talk) 19:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
User:Nysreti1 keeps reinstating a POV item that has been extensively discussed in the past; for example, in this AfD from some months ago. On top of that, they linked it to an unrelated page which they view as a reference (showing ignorance of WP:CIRCULAR), and doesn't say anything about such a war; instead, it only mentions a single aviation incident with a pipe link to Operation Pyrsos, which was a battle that marked the end of the Greek Civil War (already included as an item in this stand-alone list). Demetrios1993 ( talk) 02:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
why were some conflicts removed: like the Albania yugoslavia border war of 1998, or the wars in kosovo, presevo, macedoonia. even the iraq war. albania participated in all these battles. and why is illyrian wars not included? 82.3.27.121 ( talk) 16:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
I have started cleanup on the article. There was a substantial amount of entries that clearly did not meet the article criteria, clearly stated in the lede and title, this is a list of wars.
I believe that the North Epirus war 1914, Civil war 1997, Revolts 1833-43 should all be added, since, they are wars, and they involve albania 82.3.27.121 ( talk) 18:49, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Fielli ( talk) 16:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Make another section for ancient albania or illyria from 678 BC to 9 AD