![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Halo 2 was considered one of the best, why is it not on the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaveMaster409 ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
I guess it would be useful to sort the games by the total number of lists that referenced them, it is not easy to do it now. (FWIW, #1 is Super Mario 64 AFAICT) -- Netol ( talk) 23:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't know how to reply on talk pages but I find it a real travesty how Morrowind was not mentioned but Skyrim was, Skyrim may have received a lot of rewards but it isn't a better TES game than Morrowind is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkStar-BlackSun ( talk • contribs) 06:10, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Jhenderson 777 00:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
JHenderson: Basically the context is that after a bunch of low-quality sources were added in the past, the guidelines were massively tightened to be strictly best-of-all-time lists. The theory behind this is that best-of-a-year or best-on-a-system lists can be misleading; maybe no all-time great games came out one year, maybe 20 did. From the current derived list, there are 0 2014 games, but 5 2012 games, for one example. SnowFire ( talk) 02:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Numerous games appear on this page that are then "verified" by publications that are so laughably unprofessional that this list is basically pointless. WhatCulure.com is not - at all - considered to be a major publication and Scott Tailford, who created the "best of" list that is referenced here, is not remotely an industry professional or has ever even worked in the industry. If this is going to be a "random person on the internet's best of list aggregate" then so be it, but it should otherwise be limited to MAJOR publications and not WhatCuluture.com, or Stuff.tv, or TheWrap.com. Major publications include IGN, Game Informer, Gamespot, G4, Giant Bomb, Polygon, Nintendo Insider, etc. There are games on this list that didn't even win a single Game of the Year award but are somehow still on a best-of list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephdk ( talk • contribs) 06:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
For each game included in the list, the game's publisher is shown. Personally, I think the game's developer is far more important than the publisher. When discussing a book, people want to know the author, not necessarily who published it. I'm not sure what the standard is for an entry like this is though, if any. I just found it strange the developer wasn't listed. Zaqwert ( talk) 13:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
As Jeuxvideo.com is a RS per WP:VG/S, and their Top 100 Best Games of All Time list meets all criteria for inclusion, I'm incorporating it. Here's the list:
Jeuxvideo2017
|
---|
100. Lemmings 99. Colin McRae Rally 2.0 98. Unreal Tournament 97. Tetris 96. DOTA 95. Duke Nukem 3D 94. Dungeon Master 93. Ultima 6: The False Prophet 92. Ikaruga 91. FIFA: Road to World Cup 98 90. Thief: The Dark Project 89. Omikron: The Nomad Soul 88. Flashback 87. The Legend of Zelda 86. Populous 85. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 84. Another World 83. System Shock 2 82. Left 4 Dead 2 81. Quake III: Arena 80. F-Zero GX 79. Gran Turismo 2 78. Planescape: Torment 77. No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way 76. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge 75. Forza Horizon 3 74. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 73. Civilization 2 72. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 71. Bloodborne 70. Battlefield 2 69. Beyond Good and Evil 68. Super Mario Bros. 3 67. Mega Man 2 66. Myst 65. Okami 64. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 63. Grim Fandango 62. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 61. Super Smash Bros. Melee 60. Max Payne 59. Soul Calibur 2 58. Hitman: Blood Money 57. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 56. Assassin's Creed 2 55. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 54. Secret of Mana 53. Tomb Raider 2 52. Pokémon Gold and Silver 51. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 50. The Last of Us 49. Doom (1993) 48. Dead Space 47. Dishonored 46. Shenmue 45. Donkey Kong Country 44. Halo: Combat Evolved 43. StarCraft 42. Dark Souls 41. Batman: Arkham City 40. Portal 2 39. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 38. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 37. Age of Empires 2: The Age of Kings 36. God of War 2 35. Resident Evil (1996) 34. Shadow of the Colossus 33. BioShock 32. Counter-Strike 31. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos 30. Minecraft 29. Metal Gear Solid 28. Metroid Prime 27. God of War 3 26. Super Mario Kart 25. Silent Hill 2 24. Super Metroid 23. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 22. Super Mario Bros. 21. Resident Evil 4 20. Mass Effect 2 19. Fallout 2 18. Diablo 2 17. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 16. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 15. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 14. Red Dead Redemption 13. Goldeneye 12. Chrono Trigger 11. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End 10. Grand Theft Auto 5 9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 8. Street Fighter 2 7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 6. Deus Ex 5. Super Mario 64 4. World of Warcraft 3. Final Fantasy 7 2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 1. Half-Life |
There were be several additions to the main list once this is incorporated, namely Ikaruga, Another World, Duke Nukem 3D, Unreal Tournament, Hitman: Blood Money, Left 4 Dead 2, Quake III: Arena, Fallout 2, and Soulcalibur II.
Will get working on updating the main list shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 17:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Managed to scrounge up a Top 100 list from the April '95 issue of Flux. Pretty sure it's a reliable source even though I didn't see it anywhere in WP:VG/S, probably because of how short-lived and obscure the publication was. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know what new additions this list would qualify, so whoever's keeping track of that will have to sort it out. Cat's Tuxedo ( talk) 08:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Flux
|
---|
100. Ecco the Dolphin (Sega CD) 99. Marble Madness (Arcade) 98. Crossbow (Arcade) 97. Turmoil (Atari 2600) 96. Star Blade (Arcade) 95. Crystal Castles (Arcade) 94. Qix (Arcade) 93. Super Breakout (Atari 5200) 92. Impossible Mission (Commodore 64) 91. Karate Champ (Arcade) 90. Yars' Revenge (Atari 2600) 89. Gauntlet (Arcade) 88. Xevious (Arcade) 87. River Raid (Atari 2600) 86. Moon Patrol (Arcade) 85. Kaboom! (Atari 2600) 84. Wizard of Wor (Arcade) 83. Star Castle (Arcade) 82. Jungle Hunt (Arcade) 81. Tomcat Alley (Sega CD) 80. Samurai Shodown (Arcade) 79. 720° (Arcade) 78. Warlords (Atari 2600) 77. Escape from the Mindmaster (Atari 2600) 76. Lunar (Sega CD) 75. NCAA Basketball (SNES) 74. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Arcade) 73. Another World (Genesis, 3DO) 72. Sinistar (Arcade) 71. Swordquest: Earthworld (Atari 2600) 70. Golden Axe (Genesis) 69. Phoenix (Arcade) 68. Haunted House (Atari 2600) 67. Mr. Do (Arcade) 66. Super Mario Bros. (NES) 65. Track & Field (Arcade) 64. Space Dungeon (Atari 5200) 63. Cruis'n USA (Arcade) 62. Super Metroid (SNES) 61. Star Wars (Arcade) 60. Alien vs. Predator (Jaguar) 59. Night Driver (Arcade) 58. Indy 500 (Arcade) 57. Galaga (Arcade) 56. Pong (Arcade) 55. Berzerk (Arcade) 54. Suzuka 8 Hours (Arcade) 53. FIFA International Soccer (3DO) 52. Robotron 2084 (Arcade) 51. Zaxxon (Arcade) 50. Madden NFL '95 (Genesis) 49. Tron (Arcade) 48. Combat (Atari 2600) 47. Dragon's Lair (Arcade) 46. Star Raiders (Atari 400) 45. Killer Instinct (Arcade) 44. Wolfenstein 3D (PC) 43. Lethal Enforcers (Arcade) 42. Prince of Persia (Apple II, PC) 41. Donkey Kong (Arcade) 40. Secret of Mana (SNES) 39. Duke Nukem (PC) 38. Jungle Strike (Genesis) 37. Major League Baseball (Intellivision) 36. Virtua Racing (Arcade) 35. Adventure (Atari 2600) 34. Defender (Arcade) 33. Pitfall! (Atari 2600) 32. Pole Position (Arcade) 31. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (Intellivision) 30. Tetris (Arcade) 29. Spy Hunter (Arcade) 28. Final Fantasy VI (SNES) 27. Thunderhawk (Sega CD) 26. Joust (Arcade) 25. Super Star Wars (SNES) 24. Missile Command (Arcade) 23. The 7th Guest (PC) 22. Road Rash (3DO) 21. Punch-Out!! (Arcade) 20. Wing Commander (PC) 19. NBA Jam (Arcade) 18. Comanche (PC) 17. Donkey Kong Country (SNES) 16. Virtua Fighter (Arcade) 15. Centipede (Arcade) 14. Myst (PC) 13. Disney's Aladdin (Genesis) 12. Street Fighter II (Arcade) 11. Asteroids (Arcade) 10. Flashback (Genesis, SNES) 9. Pac-Man (Arcade) 8. NHL '95 (Genesis) 7. Earthworm Jim (SNES, Genesis) 6. Tempest (Arcade) 5. Mortal Kombat (Arcade) 4. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis) 3. Doom (PC) 2. The Legend of Zelda (NES) 1. Space Invaders (Arcade) |
Looks like they did a top 100 in 2011, too. Fulfills all criteria, so I'm incorporating it. The new entries to the main list will be Fallout and Valkyria Chronicles.
Jeuxvideo2011
|
---|
100. Black Crypt 99. Battlezone (1998) 98. Secret Command (Rambo for the Master System) 97. The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Mystery 96. Dune 2 95. Trackmania 94. Sam & Max Hit the Road 93. Dragon Age: Origins 92. Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 91. Sonic the Hedgehog 90. Vagrant Story 89. Super Mario Bros. 88. Ghosts 'n Goblins 87. Shining Force III 86. Double Dragon 2: The Revenge 85. Demon's Souls 84. Red Dead Redemption 83. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 82. Final Fantasy IV 81. Valkyrie Profile 80. Little Big Adventure 79. Valkyria Chronicles 78. Goldeneye 77. Final Fantasy Tactics 76. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 75. Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II 74. Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver 73. Grim Fandango 72. Secret of Mana 71. Gran Turismo 4 70. Sonic & Knuckles 69. Dragon Quest VIII 68. Okami 67. Syndicate (1993) 66. Portal 65. Tremulous 64. Chrono Trigger 63. Riven 62. Panzer Dragoon Saga 61. Super Mario Bros. 3 60. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 59. L'Entraineur 3 58. Tomb Raider (1996) 57. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 56. God of War 2 55. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge 54. Myst 53. Final Fantasy VI 52. Sanitarium 51. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 50. Gabriel Knight 3 49. Unreal Tournament 48. Shenmue 47. The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 46. Shenmue 2 45. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 44. Dead Space 2 43. Arx Fatalis 42. Minecraft 41. Civilization 40. Diablo 39. FIFA 98: Road to World Cup 38. Baldur's Gate 37. Super Mario World 36. Half-Life 35. The Legend of Zelda 34. Resident Evil 4 33. The Longest Journey 32. Beyond Good and Evil 31. Cadaver 30. Monster Hunter Freedom Unite 29. Ico 28. Silent Hill 2 27. Super Mario Kart 26. Starcraft 25. Tetris 24. Shadow of the Colossus 23. The Secret of Monkey Island 22. Doom 21. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 20. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 19. Day of the Tentacle 18. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 17. Grand Theft Auto 4 16. Sid Meier's Pirates! (1987) 15. Thief II: The Metal Age 14. Super Metroid 13. The Witcher 12. Fallout 11. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 10. Duke Nukem 3D 9. World of Warcraft 8. Final Fantasy VII 7. Hitman 2: Silent Assassin 6. Mass Effect 5. Batman: Arkham Asylum 4. Deus Ex 3. Donkey Kong Country 2. Another World 1. Super Mario 64 |
Will add to the main page shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 07:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Power Unlimited did a "Top 100 Best Games of All Time" list last year. Since they're a RS per WP:VG/S, and the list fulfills all criteria, I'm going to incorporate this one too. While the list is editor-chosen, I should note that the preamble mentions a reader poll, and that the editors will add the most popular games onto the list. As far as I can tell the list was never actually altered or updated at all. The oldest archive still shows exactly the same list. So I'm assuming this is the editors' list and that the reader list is either on a different page or simply wasn't made.
Power Unlimited
|
---|
100. Red Dead Redemption 99. Micro Machines 98. Homeworld 97. Resident Evil Code: Veronica 96. Dragon Age: Inquisition 95. Wing Commander 4: The Price of Freedom 94. King's Quest 2: Romancing the Throne 93. Earthbound 92. Thief II: The Metal Age 91. Little Big Adventure 2 90. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis 89. pace Quest 4: Roger Wilco and the Rippers 88. Kirby's Adventure 87. Star Wars: Battlefront (2004) 86. Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening 85. Mafia 84. Tekken 3 83. Shenmue 82. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 81. Diablo II 80. Killer Instinct (1994) 79. Baldur's Gate 78. Hitman: Blood Money 77. Theme Hospital 76. Mega Man X 75. Simcity 4 74. Gran Turismo 73. Mortal Kombat II 72. FIFA '98: Road to World Cup 71. Ninja Gaiden (NES) 70. Star Fox 69. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 68. Halo 2 67. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood 66. Beyond Good and Evil 65. Day of the Tentacle 64. Rez 63. Persona 4 62. Rome: Total War 61. Limbo 60. Burnout Paradise 59. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 58. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 57. Spelunky 56. X-COM: UFO Defense 55. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 54. Banjo-Kazooie 53. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 52. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 51. Far Cry 2 50. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 49. Kingdom Hearts 48. Batman: Arkham City 47. Chrono Trigger 46. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 45. Civilization 5 44. Pokemon Gold and Silver 43. Fallout 3 42. Counter-Strike 41. Space Invaders 40. Deus Ex 39. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 38. Max Payne 37. Metroid Prime 36. Ico 35. Grand Theft Auto (1997) 34. Final Fantasy VII 33. Resident Evil 4 32. Half-Life 31. The Sims 2 30. Doom (1993) 29. The Curse of Monkey Island 28. Duke Nukem 3D 27. God of War (2005) 26. Unreal Tournament 2004 25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 24. Dark Souls 23. Mass Effect 2 22. Bioshock 21. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 20. Super Metroid 19. Metal Gear Solid 18. Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines 17. Street Fighter 2 16. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 15. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 14. World of Warcraft 13. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 12. Super Mario World 11. Goldeneye 10. Super Mario Kart 9. Rollercoaster Tycoon 8. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 7. Portal 6. Super Mario Galaxy 5. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 4. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 3. Tetris 2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 1. The Last of Us |
New additions to the main list as a result of this list's incorporation will be Pokemon Gold and Silver, Mega Man X, Beyond Good & Evil, Rome: Total War, Thief II: The Metal Age, Halo 2, and The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. Phediuk ( talk) 23:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
The Spanish edition of GQ published a Top 100 list in 2018. GQ is a RS for pop-culture topics (along the lines of FHM, Entertainment Weekly, etc.), and a quick search turns up many citations in gaming-related WP articles, so it should be fine on that front. Furthermore, the list's principal author, John Tones, was also a staff member for Spanish version of GamesTM. Looks like this list passes muster, so I'm going to incorporate it.
GQ
|
---|
100. Barbarian 99. Bloodborne 98. NBA 2K13 97. Firewatch 96. Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery 95. Counter-Strike: Source 94. Overwatch 93. Metroid Prime 92. The Witness 91. Horizon Zero Dawn 90. Rez 89. Grim Fandango 88. Pitfall 87. Cuphead 86. Super Mario Kart 85. Ikaruga 84. Final Fantasy VII 83. Spider-Man (2018) 82. Simcity 2000 81. Shenmue 80. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 79. Tomb Raider (1996) 78. Skate 77. Minecraft 76. Left 4 Dead 2 75. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 74. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 73. Civilization IV 72. Gears of War 2 71. Sonic the Hedgehog 70. Okami 69. Advance Wars 68. Team Fortress 2 67. Super Meat Boy 66. Diablo 2 65. Mega Man 2 64. Braid 63. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 62. Journey 61. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 60. Dark Souls 59. Batman: Arkham City 58. Super Mario Galaxy 2 57. Mass Effect 2 56. World of Warcraft 55. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 54. Shadow of the Colossus 53. Super Metroid 52. Shadow of the Beast (1989) 51. Borderlands 2 50. Just Cause 2 49. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 48. Rock Band 47. Black 46. Castle of Illusion (1990) 45. Panzer Dragoon 44. Destiny 43. La abadía del crimen 42. Metal Slug 41. Psychonauts 40. Lemmings 39. Arkanoid: Revenge of Doh 38. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 37. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 36. Contra 3: The Alien Wars 35. Gradius 5 34. Chrono Trigger 33. Max Payne 3 32. Quake 31. Mortal Kombat (1992) 30. Outrun 29. Deus Ex 28. Popeye 27. Wipeout HD 26. Bayonetta 25. Bioshock Infinite 24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 23. Halo 22. Final Fight 21. Dishonored 20. X-COM: UFO Defense 19. Fallout 2 18. Ghosts 'n Goblins 17. Manhunt 16. Burnout Paradise 15. Street Fighter 2 14. R-Type 13. Super Hexagon 12. Donkey Kong 11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 10. Tetris 9. God Hand 8. The Secret of Monkey Island 7. Red Dead Redemption 6. Resident Evil 4 5. Half-Life 2 4. Silent Hill 2 3. Super Mario World 2. Pac-Man 1. Portal 2 |
Once this list is incorporated, R-Type, Fallout 2, Mortal Kombat, Super Meat Boy, Left 4 Dead 2, Ikaruga, and Overwatch will all return to the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 20:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I've noticed that many games that were included on this list as early as last night are no longer included. While I do not have a complete list, some of these games include Ninja Gaiden, Banjo-Kazooie, Pokemon Gold and Silver, Rock Band 3, and Fire Emblem Awakening. Was there an adjustment made to the criteria or a list?
After another lengthy search, I found one more list. The Irish Times covers video games, and did a Top 50 list back in 2013. The paper itself is obviously RS, cited extensively on WP; furthermore, the authors who wrote the article, Joe Griffin and Ciara O'Brien, are also real journalists; Griffin was one of their regular video game writers for 10 years (2005-15), and O'Brien has been a staff tech writer for them since 2007. Everything checks out, then, so I'm adding the list to the main page.
IrishTimes
|
---|
50. Tomb Raider (2013) 49. North and South 48. Minecraft 47. Heavy Rain 46. Civilization 45. Quake 44. Bioshock Infinite 43. Limbo 42. Resistance 2 41. Journey 40. Gravity Rush 39. The Secret of Monkey Island 38. Tekken 3 37. Strider (1989) 36. Dance Central 2 35. Last Ninja 2 34. LittleBigPlanet 2 33. Rock Band 32. Bulletstorm 31. Plants vs. Zombies 30. Dishonored 29. Battlefield 3 28. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 27. Angry Birds 26. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood 25. Zuma 24. Gears of War 2 23. Driver: San Francisco 22. Peggle 21. Mirror's Edge 20. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 19. Borderlands 2 18. Street Fighter IV 17. Soul Calibur 4 16. Space Invaders 15. FIFA 12 14. Pac-Man 13. Resident Evil (1996) 12. Super Mario Kart 11. The Last of Us 10. Half-Life 2 9. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 8. Metal Gear Solid 7. Super Mario Bros. 6. Red Dead Redemption 5. Mass Effect 2 4. Portal 2 3. Tetris 2. Halo 3 1. Grand Theft Auto III |
Amazingly, no games to be added. Phediuk ( talk) 06:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
This came up before, but I guess I'm not one of the people worried about list bloat too much. If the list is long, so be it, I'd be happy with keeping it at 5 sources flat. That said, while it opens up accusations of arbitrariness, if we do increase the threshold, can we at least have a separate criteria for recent games, and possibly very old games as well? Sourcing is inherently harder to find for a 2015 game compared to a 2004 game with the nature of the list. If we say "only" 5 sources for games released in 2010 or after, and possibly 1990 or before as well, and enforce 6 sources on the middle-year games from 1991-2009, that leads to less warping of the results simply by which lists are picked to be used at all. SnowFire ( talk) 20:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm happy to be bold and make the revisions myself, but it'll only matter if the change is maintained and agreed on. @ Phediuk:, since you've been doing so much of the recent maintenance, and also upped the threshold to 6 - what are your thoughts? Would you be up for either going back to just 5 sources and having a somewhat long list, or else having some sort of custom rule by release date, or are you firmly in favor of 6 everywhere? SnowFire ( talk) 22:05, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
((x number of sources)/(total number of sources))*100 ≈ established % limit starts to teeter on the edge of a math based method. I also agree with the thinking that this method makes it significantly harder for any new games to be included on the list. The total number of sources will increase overtime which would increase the required number of sources per game. This means it would take new games longer to achieve enough references for inclusion (if they ever would. Future lists should still be citing many of the older games leaving less room for new ones to potentially be included). Durchschnitt ( talk) 14:43, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Another list uncovered! We already have Stuff's 2017 list, but their print edition also did a list back in 2008, which can be observed here. As with the 2017 list, it's staff-chosen and covers all platforms, so it looks ripe for inclusion here. I've transcribed it below:
Stuff2008
|
---|
100. Jet Set Radio 99. Mercenary 98. Final Fantasy III (1990) 97. Dungeon Master 96. Treasure of Usas 95. Skies of Arcadia 94. Red Baron 3D 93. PGA Tour Golf 92. Sid Meier's Pirates (1987) 91. Tomb Raider (1996) 90. Rome: Total War 89. Virtua Fighter 2 88. Rainbow Islands 87. California Games 86. Ant Attack 85. Micro Machines 84. Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 83. Skate 82. Ico 81. Timesplitters 2 80. Alone in the Dark (1992) 79. Virtua Cop 78. Spy vs. Spy 77. Stunt Car Racer 76. Pong 75. Flashback 74. Kick Off 2 73. Head Over Heels 72. Metal Slug 71. Mass Effect 70. Phantasy Star II 69. Castlevania 68. Crazy Taxi 67. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 66. Pac-Man 65. Simcity (1989) 64. Underwurlde 63. Road Rash 2 62. NBA Jam 61. The Sims 60. Mechwarrior 2 59. Football Manager 2 58. Star Fox 57. Super Metroid 56. Outrun 55. Super Mario Bros. 3 54. Resident Evil 4 53. Diablo 52. Xenon 2 Megablast 51. Defender of the Crown 50. Command & Conquer 49. Chase HQ 48. Jet Set Willy 47. World of Warcraft 46. Shenmue 45. Deus Ex 44. Star Wars: X-Wing 43. Patapon 42. Motorstorm 41. Bubble Bobble 40. R-Type 39. Monkey Island II: LeChuck's Revenge 38. Bioshock 37. Worms 36. Civilization 35. Virtua Tennis 34. Wipeout 33. God of War (2005) 32. Streets of Rage 2 31. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 30. Sega Rally Championship 29. Okami 28. Wii Sports 27. Street Fighter 2 26. Tetris 25. Singstar 24. Lemmings 23. Super Mario Galaxy 22. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 21. Animal Crossing: Wild World 20. Mega Bomberman 19. Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe 18. Super Mario 64 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 16. Quake III: Arena 15. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 14. Halo 13. Guitar Hero 12. Sensible World of Soccer 11. Super Mario Kart 10. Turrican 2 9. Grand Theft Auto III 8. Doom (1993) 7. Sonic the Hedgehog 6. Elite 5. Super Mario World 4. Goldeneye 3. Final Fantasy VII 2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 1. Half-Life 2 |
Will figure out what's to be added to the main list shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 14:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The GamesRadar list currently listed is actually its list for 2015, not 2013; the site actually did a top 100 annually for 5 years in a row, and they can be found at these links:
2011 - 2012 - 2013 - 2014 - 2015
Will get to work on transcribing all of them. Phediuk ( talk) 18:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2011
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Tetris 3. Chrono Trigger 4. Grand Theft Auto IV 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Super Mario Bros. 3 7. Shadow of the Colossus 8. Half-Life 2 9. Super Metroid 10. Mass Effect 2 11. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 12. Bioshock 13. Street Fighter IV 14. Final Fantasy VI 15. Red Dead Redemption 16. Super Mario Galaxy 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 18. Resident Evil 4 19. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 20. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 21. Metal Gear Solid 22. Batman: Arkham Asylum 23. World of Warcraft 24. Civilization IV 25. Deus Ex 26. Pokemon Black and White 27. Super Mario 64 28. The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 29. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 30. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 31. Ico 32. Ms. Pac-Man 33. Half-Life 34. Left 4 Dead 2 35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 36. Silent Hill 2 37. Mega Man 2 38. Diablo II 39. The Sims 3 40. Okami 41. Halo 3 42. Gears of War 2 43. Rock Band 2 44. God of War (2005) 45. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 46. Super Mario Kart 47. Assassin’s Creed 2 48. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 49. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 50. Grim Fandango 51. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 52. SimCity 3000 53. Final Fantasy Tactics 54. Katamari Damacy 55. Doom 2 56. Counter-Strike 57. Burnout 3: Takedown 58. Fallout 2 59. Advance Wars 60. Final Fantasy X 61. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 62. Soul Calibur 63. Bejeweled 3 64. Day of the Tentacle 65. Sega Rally Championship 66. Braid 67. Sonic CD 68. Psychonauts 69. Secret of Mana 70. Beyond Good and Evil 71. Team Fortress 2 72. Super Smash Bros. Melee 73. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 74. Yoshi’s Island 75. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 76. Donkey Kong Country 77. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 78. Super Punch-Out!! 79. Kingdom Hearts 80. Tomb Raider (1996) 81. F-Zero GX 82. Contra III: The Alien Wars 83. King’s Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow 84. Rez 85. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 86. Magic Land Dizzy 87. Tetris Attack 88. Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2 89. Planetside 90. Earthbound 91. Quake III: Arena 92. Cobra Triangle 93. Shenmue 94. WWF: No Mercy 95. Bubble Bobble 96. Killer 7 97. Blazing Lazers 98. Lumines 99. Ducktales (NES) 100. Minecraft |
Based on the 2011 list, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, Psychonauts, Beyond Good & Evil, Bubble Bobble, and Katamari Damacy will go on the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 18:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2012
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Tetris 3. Chrono Trigger 4. Super Mario Bros. 3 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Grand Theft Auto IV 7. Shadow of the Colossus 8. Bioshock 9. Super Metroid 10. Mass Effect 2 11. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 12. Half-Life 2 13. Street Fighter IV 14. Final Fantasy VI 15. Red Dead Redemption 16. Super Mario Galaxy 2 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 18. Resident Evil 4 19. Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 20. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 21. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 22. Portal 2 23. Batman: Arkham City 24. Final Fantasy X 25. World of Warcraft 26. Civilization V 27. Deus Ex 28. Pokemon Black and White 29. Super Mario 64 30. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 31. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 32. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 33. Ico 34. Ms. Pac-Man 35. Left 4 Dead 2 36. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 37. Silent Hill 2 38. Mega Man 2 39. Diablo II 40. The Sims 3 41. Okami 42. Halo 3 43. Rock Band 3 44. Gears of War 2 45. God of War 46. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 47. Mario Kart 7 48. EarthBound 49. Assassin’s Creed II 50. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 51. Metal Gear Solid 52. Grim Fandango 53. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 54. SimCity 2000 55. Final Fantasy Tactics 56. Katamari Damacy 57. Doom 2 58. Counter-Strike 59. Burnout Paradise 60. Fallout 2 61. Advance Wars 62. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 63. Soul Calibur II 64. Braid 65. Day of the Tentacle 66. Sega Rally Championship 67. Journey 68. Sonic CD 69. Psychonauts 70. Secret of Mana 71. Beyond Good and Evil 72. Team Fortress 2 73. Super Smash Bros. Melee 74. League of Legends 75. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 76. Yoshi’s Island 77. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 78. Donkey Kong Country 79. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 80. Super Punch-Out!! 81. Kingdom Hearts II 82. Super Meat Boy 83. Tomb Raider (1996) 84. F-Zero GX 85. Contra III: The Alien Wars 86. The Secret of Monkey Island 87. Rez 88. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 89. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 90. Tetris Attack 91. Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2 92. Quake III: Arena 93. Suikoden 2 94. Castle Crashers 95. WWF: No Mercy 96. Limbo 97. Ikaruga 98. Lumines 99. Ducktales (NES) 100. Minecraft |
SoulCalibur II will be returning to the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 18:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2013
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Chrono Trigger 3. Super Metroid 4. Shadow of the Colossus 5. Legend of Zelda, The: The Wind Waker 6. BioShock 7. Super Mario Bros. 3 8. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 10. World of Warcraft 11. Mass Effect 2 12. Red Dead Redemption 13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 14. Batman: Arkham City 15. Half-Life 2 16. Team Fortress 2 17. Assassin’s Creed II 18. Metroid Prime 19. Persona 4 20. Dark Souls 21. Street Fighter IV 22. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 23. Tetris DS 24. The Walking Dead 25. Journey 26. Grand Theft Auto IV 27. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 28. Resident Evil 4 29. Final Fantasy VI 30. Counter-Strike 31. Mother 3 32. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 33. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 34. Rock Band 3 35. Braid 36. Halo 4 37. Mega Man 2 38. Diablo II 39. Pokemon Black and White 40. Dragon Age: Origins 41. Civilization V 42. Burnout Paradise 43. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 44. Final Fantasy X 45. Yoshi’s Island 46. Super Meat Boy 47. Advance Wars 48. Mario Kart 7 49. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 50. Final Fantasy Tactics 51. XCOM: Enemy Unknown 52. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 53. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 54. The Secret of Monkey Island 55. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 56. Okami 57. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 58. Gears of War 2 59. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 60. Psychonauts 61. Dead Space 2 62. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 63. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 64. Planescape: Torment 65. Saints Row: The Third 66. Unreal Tournament 2004 67. Star Fox 64 68. Fallout 2 69. League of Legends 70. Cave Story 71. Forza Motorsport 4 72. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 73. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 74. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 75. Grim Fandango 76. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 77. Bayonetta 78. Bomberman Live 79. To the Moon 80. Shadowrun (SNES) 81. Paper Mario 82. Virtua Fighter 5 83. Secret of Mana 84. Grid 85. Silent Hill 2 86. Worms Armageddon 87. Left 4 Dead 2 88. Minecraft 89. The Sims 3 90. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 91. Infinity Blade 2 92. Planet Puzzle League 93. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 94. Pac-Man Championship Edition 95. Limbo 96. Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 97. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 98. Lumines 99. Sega Rally Championship 100. NFL Blitz |
No new games going on the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 19:07, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2014
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Chrono Trigger 3. Super Metroid 4. Shadow of the Colossus 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Bioshock 7. Super Mario World 8. The Last of Us 9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 10. World of Warcraft 11. Mass Effect 2 12. Red Dead Redemption 13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 14. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 15. Batman: Arkham City 16. Half-Life 2 17. Tomb Raider (2013) 18. Team Fortress 2 19. Metroid Prime 20. Persona 4 21. Dark Souls 22. League of Legends 23. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 24. Street Fighter IV 25. Tetris DS 26. The Walking Dead 27. Journey 28. Grand Theft Auto V 29. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 30. Resident Evil 4 31. Final Fantasy VI 32. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag 33. Mother 3 34. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 36. Rock Band 3 37. Braid 38. Halo 4 39. Mega Man 2 40. Diablo II 41. Pokemon X and Y 42. Dragon Age: Origins 43. Civilization V 44. Burnout Paradise 45. XCOM: Enemy Unknown 46. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 47. Final Fantasy X 48. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island 49. Super Meat Boy 50. Advance Wars 51. Mario Kart 7 52. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 53. Final Fantasy Tactics 54. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 55. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 56. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 57. Fire Emblem: Awakening 58. The Secret of Monkey Island 59. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 60. Okami 61. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 62. Gears of War 2 63. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 64. Psychonauts 65. Dead Space 2 66. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 67. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 68. Planescape: Torment 69. Saints Row: The Third 70. Unreal Tournament 2004 71. Star Fox 64 72. Fallout 2 73. Cave Story 74. Forza Motorsport 4 75. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 76. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 77. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 78. Battlefield 4 79. Grim Fandango 80. Far Cry 3 81. Bayonetta 82. Bomberman Live 83. To the Moon 84. Paper Mario 85. Virtua Fighter 5 86. Secret of Mana 87. Grid 88. Silent Hill 2 89. Worms Armageddon 90. Left 4 Dead 2 91. Minecraft 92. The Sims 3 93. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 94. Planet Puzzle League 95. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 96. Pac-Man Championship Edition 97. Limbo 98. Lumines 99. Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 100. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne |
No additional games to be added to the main list from this one either. Phediuk ( talk) 19:15, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
My question is why is the sims on this list? Do I really need to explain why it’s bad? I’ve done it a million times on other places. Sonicfan200530 ( talk) 23:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
What I’m saying is that The Sims has more controversy’s than appearances on best game list. Sonicfan200530 ( talk) 19:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I've been removing Undertale from the page for god knows how long. And I thought I might list the main reason as to why I keep doing it.
First of all, practically all of the sources for Undertale haven't been viable enough for being on this page. Most of the sources I see are stuff like "Best Game of 2015", "Top 10 Indie Games you Need to play" etc. The problem with those is that they are either not helpful, doesn't talk about how Undertale is a game for the ages or are only for the year it was released in. Compare Undertale's sources to a game like Skyrim for example. That game won A LOT of Game of the Year awards and was highly rated in Top 10 Games of 2011 list and when you look at that game's sources, it's mostly stuff like Top 100 Games of All Time lists and a Metacritic page, which I'll get to later. Heck, compare it to something like Journey for example, that's an Indie Game as well and the sources for that don't have stuff like "Top 10 Indie Games" or "Best Games of 2012", it has the same sources as Skyrim, features in Best Games of All Time lists and stuff like that.
Next up is Steam's "Highest Rated Games" source. Honestly, that is a TERRIBLE source for one reason and one reason only, it is user-based. If you look at the top-rated games you can see that One Finger Death Punch a small little Indie Game that is somewhat stupid, yet awesome. Is not only above Undertale, but is at Rank TWO right behind Portal 2.
Finally, there's Metacritic. First of all, the Metacritic page isn't judging the Greatest games across all platforms, it talks about PC games ONLY. Also, on the Methodology section, you can see that it says that seventh generation games need to be in the Top 25 to be considered for the page. When I wrote this, Undertale is at 28th place on the best PC games and is in 159th place on the best games of all platforms. Not to mention, Metacritic has it's OWN section on the Other Criteria part, which considers the Top 20 games on their site, which Undertale ISN'T in.
Subtracting all of the sources that are "Best of 2015" lists (-2), the lists that consider only Indie Games (Journey didn't have them so why Undertale?) (-2) and Metacritc and Steam (-1 for both) that leaves Undertale with only 2 sources left, invalidating it's addition to this page and as such needs to be removed. I suggest people who want to put Undertale on this page read this before considering how they do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.147.168 ( talk • contribs)
Honestly, while I do think Undertale should be on there, it’s probably not until the 2019 lists, I’m already collecting lists on some games to include them on this list (Don’t worry, it’s all best games of all times, not best indie games or best games of 2015.). DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Granted, God of War did won Game of the Year, and Red Dead Redemption 2 is highly praised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaveMaster409 ( talk • contribs) 17:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Probably DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
List of video games considered the best has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
please add Red Dead Redemption 2 and Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 on the list because they have high ratings on metacritic with 97 rating thabk you 27.99.80.121 ( talk) 08:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
They’re not going to at all, not anytime soon of course. DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 13:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
List of video games considered the best has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
also please add on the list Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns Of the Patriots and Metal Gear Solid V the phantom Pain on the list because they have high ratings on metacritic 94 and 93 respectively 27.99.80.121 ( talk) 08:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Metacritic does not qualify, only Top 100 lists DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 13:37, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Halo 2 was considered one of the best, why is it not on the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaveMaster409 ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
I guess it would be useful to sort the games by the total number of lists that referenced them, it is not easy to do it now. (FWIW, #1 is Super Mario 64 AFAICT) -- Netol ( talk) 23:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't know how to reply on talk pages but I find it a real travesty how Morrowind was not mentioned but Skyrim was, Skyrim may have received a lot of rewards but it isn't a better TES game than Morrowind is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkStar-BlackSun ( talk • contribs) 06:10, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Jhenderson 777 00:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
JHenderson: Basically the context is that after a bunch of low-quality sources were added in the past, the guidelines were massively tightened to be strictly best-of-all-time lists. The theory behind this is that best-of-a-year or best-on-a-system lists can be misleading; maybe no all-time great games came out one year, maybe 20 did. From the current derived list, there are 0 2014 games, but 5 2012 games, for one example. SnowFire ( talk) 02:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Numerous games appear on this page that are then "verified" by publications that are so laughably unprofessional that this list is basically pointless. WhatCulure.com is not - at all - considered to be a major publication and Scott Tailford, who created the "best of" list that is referenced here, is not remotely an industry professional or has ever even worked in the industry. If this is going to be a "random person on the internet's best of list aggregate" then so be it, but it should otherwise be limited to MAJOR publications and not WhatCuluture.com, or Stuff.tv, or TheWrap.com. Major publications include IGN, Game Informer, Gamespot, G4, Giant Bomb, Polygon, Nintendo Insider, etc. There are games on this list that didn't even win a single Game of the Year award but are somehow still on a best-of list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephdk ( talk • contribs) 06:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
For each game included in the list, the game's publisher is shown. Personally, I think the game's developer is far more important than the publisher. When discussing a book, people want to know the author, not necessarily who published it. I'm not sure what the standard is for an entry like this is though, if any. I just found it strange the developer wasn't listed. Zaqwert ( talk) 13:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
As Jeuxvideo.com is a RS per WP:VG/S, and their Top 100 Best Games of All Time list meets all criteria for inclusion, I'm incorporating it. Here's the list:
Jeuxvideo2017
|
---|
100. Lemmings 99. Colin McRae Rally 2.0 98. Unreal Tournament 97. Tetris 96. DOTA 95. Duke Nukem 3D 94. Dungeon Master 93. Ultima 6: The False Prophet 92. Ikaruga 91. FIFA: Road to World Cup 98 90. Thief: The Dark Project 89. Omikron: The Nomad Soul 88. Flashback 87. The Legend of Zelda 86. Populous 85. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 84. Another World 83. System Shock 2 82. Left 4 Dead 2 81. Quake III: Arena 80. F-Zero GX 79. Gran Turismo 2 78. Planescape: Torment 77. No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way 76. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge 75. Forza Horizon 3 74. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 73. Civilization 2 72. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 71. Bloodborne 70. Battlefield 2 69. Beyond Good and Evil 68. Super Mario Bros. 3 67. Mega Man 2 66. Myst 65. Okami 64. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 63. Grim Fandango 62. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 61. Super Smash Bros. Melee 60. Max Payne 59. Soul Calibur 2 58. Hitman: Blood Money 57. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 56. Assassin's Creed 2 55. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 54. Secret of Mana 53. Tomb Raider 2 52. Pokémon Gold and Silver 51. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 50. The Last of Us 49. Doom (1993) 48. Dead Space 47. Dishonored 46. Shenmue 45. Donkey Kong Country 44. Halo: Combat Evolved 43. StarCraft 42. Dark Souls 41. Batman: Arkham City 40. Portal 2 39. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 38. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 37. Age of Empires 2: The Age of Kings 36. God of War 2 35. Resident Evil (1996) 34. Shadow of the Colossus 33. BioShock 32. Counter-Strike 31. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos 30. Minecraft 29. Metal Gear Solid 28. Metroid Prime 27. God of War 3 26. Super Mario Kart 25. Silent Hill 2 24. Super Metroid 23. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 22. Super Mario Bros. 21. Resident Evil 4 20. Mass Effect 2 19. Fallout 2 18. Diablo 2 17. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 16. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 15. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 14. Red Dead Redemption 13. Goldeneye 12. Chrono Trigger 11. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End 10. Grand Theft Auto 5 9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 8. Street Fighter 2 7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 6. Deus Ex 5. Super Mario 64 4. World of Warcraft 3. Final Fantasy 7 2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 1. Half-Life |
There were be several additions to the main list once this is incorporated, namely Ikaruga, Another World, Duke Nukem 3D, Unreal Tournament, Hitman: Blood Money, Left 4 Dead 2, Quake III: Arena, Fallout 2, and Soulcalibur II.
Will get working on updating the main list shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 17:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Managed to scrounge up a Top 100 list from the April '95 issue of Flux. Pretty sure it's a reliable source even though I didn't see it anywhere in WP:VG/S, probably because of how short-lived and obscure the publication was. Unfortunately, I wouldn't know what new additions this list would qualify, so whoever's keeping track of that will have to sort it out. Cat's Tuxedo ( talk) 08:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Flux
|
---|
100. Ecco the Dolphin (Sega CD) 99. Marble Madness (Arcade) 98. Crossbow (Arcade) 97. Turmoil (Atari 2600) 96. Star Blade (Arcade) 95. Crystal Castles (Arcade) 94. Qix (Arcade) 93. Super Breakout (Atari 5200) 92. Impossible Mission (Commodore 64) 91. Karate Champ (Arcade) 90. Yars' Revenge (Atari 2600) 89. Gauntlet (Arcade) 88. Xevious (Arcade) 87. River Raid (Atari 2600) 86. Moon Patrol (Arcade) 85. Kaboom! (Atari 2600) 84. Wizard of Wor (Arcade) 83. Star Castle (Arcade) 82. Jungle Hunt (Arcade) 81. Tomcat Alley (Sega CD) 80. Samurai Shodown (Arcade) 79. 720° (Arcade) 78. Warlords (Atari 2600) 77. Escape from the Mindmaster (Atari 2600) 76. Lunar (Sega CD) 75. NCAA Basketball (SNES) 74. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Arcade) 73. Another World (Genesis, 3DO) 72. Sinistar (Arcade) 71. Swordquest: Earthworld (Atari 2600) 70. Golden Axe (Genesis) 69. Phoenix (Arcade) 68. Haunted House (Atari 2600) 67. Mr. Do (Arcade) 66. Super Mario Bros. (NES) 65. Track & Field (Arcade) 64. Space Dungeon (Atari 5200) 63. Cruis'n USA (Arcade) 62. Super Metroid (SNES) 61. Star Wars (Arcade) 60. Alien vs. Predator (Jaguar) 59. Night Driver (Arcade) 58. Indy 500 (Arcade) 57. Galaga (Arcade) 56. Pong (Arcade) 55. Berzerk (Arcade) 54. Suzuka 8 Hours (Arcade) 53. FIFA International Soccer (3DO) 52. Robotron 2084 (Arcade) 51. Zaxxon (Arcade) 50. Madden NFL '95 (Genesis) 49. Tron (Arcade) 48. Combat (Atari 2600) 47. Dragon's Lair (Arcade) 46. Star Raiders (Atari 400) 45. Killer Instinct (Arcade) 44. Wolfenstein 3D (PC) 43. Lethal Enforcers (Arcade) 42. Prince of Persia (Apple II, PC) 41. Donkey Kong (Arcade) 40. Secret of Mana (SNES) 39. Duke Nukem (PC) 38. Jungle Strike (Genesis) 37. Major League Baseball (Intellivision) 36. Virtua Racing (Arcade) 35. Adventure (Atari 2600) 34. Defender (Arcade) 33. Pitfall! (Atari 2600) 32. Pole Position (Arcade) 31. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (Intellivision) 30. Tetris (Arcade) 29. Spy Hunter (Arcade) 28. Final Fantasy VI (SNES) 27. Thunderhawk (Sega CD) 26. Joust (Arcade) 25. Super Star Wars (SNES) 24. Missile Command (Arcade) 23. The 7th Guest (PC) 22. Road Rash (3DO) 21. Punch-Out!! (Arcade) 20. Wing Commander (PC) 19. NBA Jam (Arcade) 18. Comanche (PC) 17. Donkey Kong Country (SNES) 16. Virtua Fighter (Arcade) 15. Centipede (Arcade) 14. Myst (PC) 13. Disney's Aladdin (Genesis) 12. Street Fighter II (Arcade) 11. Asteroids (Arcade) 10. Flashback (Genesis, SNES) 9. Pac-Man (Arcade) 8. NHL '95 (Genesis) 7. Earthworm Jim (SNES, Genesis) 6. Tempest (Arcade) 5. Mortal Kombat (Arcade) 4. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis) 3. Doom (PC) 2. The Legend of Zelda (NES) 1. Space Invaders (Arcade) |
Looks like they did a top 100 in 2011, too. Fulfills all criteria, so I'm incorporating it. The new entries to the main list will be Fallout and Valkyria Chronicles.
Jeuxvideo2011
|
---|
100. Black Crypt 99. Battlezone (1998) 98. Secret Command (Rambo for the Master System) 97. The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Mystery 96. Dune 2 95. Trackmania 94. Sam & Max Hit the Road 93. Dragon Age: Origins 92. Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 91. Sonic the Hedgehog 90. Vagrant Story 89. Super Mario Bros. 88. Ghosts 'n Goblins 87. Shining Force III 86. Double Dragon 2: The Revenge 85. Demon's Souls 84. Red Dead Redemption 83. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 82. Final Fantasy IV 81. Valkyrie Profile 80. Little Big Adventure 79. Valkyria Chronicles 78. Goldeneye 77. Final Fantasy Tactics 76. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 75. Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II 74. Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver 73. Grim Fandango 72. Secret of Mana 71. Gran Turismo 4 70. Sonic & Knuckles 69. Dragon Quest VIII 68. Okami 67. Syndicate (1993) 66. Portal 65. Tremulous 64. Chrono Trigger 63. Riven 62. Panzer Dragoon Saga 61. Super Mario Bros. 3 60. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 59. L'Entraineur 3 58. Tomb Raider (1996) 57. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 56. God of War 2 55. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge 54. Myst 53. Final Fantasy VI 52. Sanitarium 51. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 50. Gabriel Knight 3 49. Unreal Tournament 48. Shenmue 47. The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 46. Shenmue 2 45. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 44. Dead Space 2 43. Arx Fatalis 42. Minecraft 41. Civilization 40. Diablo 39. FIFA 98: Road to World Cup 38. Baldur's Gate 37. Super Mario World 36. Half-Life 35. The Legend of Zelda 34. Resident Evil 4 33. The Longest Journey 32. Beyond Good and Evil 31. Cadaver 30. Monster Hunter Freedom Unite 29. Ico 28. Silent Hill 2 27. Super Mario Kart 26. Starcraft 25. Tetris 24. Shadow of the Colossus 23. The Secret of Monkey Island 22. Doom 21. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 20. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 19. Day of the Tentacle 18. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 17. Grand Theft Auto 4 16. Sid Meier's Pirates! (1987) 15. Thief II: The Metal Age 14. Super Metroid 13. The Witcher 12. Fallout 11. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 10. Duke Nukem 3D 9. World of Warcraft 8. Final Fantasy VII 7. Hitman 2: Silent Assassin 6. Mass Effect 5. Batman: Arkham Asylum 4. Deus Ex 3. Donkey Kong Country 2. Another World 1. Super Mario 64 |
Will add to the main page shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 07:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Power Unlimited did a "Top 100 Best Games of All Time" list last year. Since they're a RS per WP:VG/S, and the list fulfills all criteria, I'm going to incorporate this one too. While the list is editor-chosen, I should note that the preamble mentions a reader poll, and that the editors will add the most popular games onto the list. As far as I can tell the list was never actually altered or updated at all. The oldest archive still shows exactly the same list. So I'm assuming this is the editors' list and that the reader list is either on a different page or simply wasn't made.
Power Unlimited
|
---|
100. Red Dead Redemption 99. Micro Machines 98. Homeworld 97. Resident Evil Code: Veronica 96. Dragon Age: Inquisition 95. Wing Commander 4: The Price of Freedom 94. King's Quest 2: Romancing the Throne 93. Earthbound 92. Thief II: The Metal Age 91. Little Big Adventure 2 90. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis 89. pace Quest 4: Roger Wilco and the Rippers 88. Kirby's Adventure 87. Star Wars: Battlefront (2004) 86. Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening 85. Mafia 84. Tekken 3 83. Shenmue 82. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 81. Diablo II 80. Killer Instinct (1994) 79. Baldur's Gate 78. Hitman: Blood Money 77. Theme Hospital 76. Mega Man X 75. Simcity 4 74. Gran Turismo 73. Mortal Kombat II 72. FIFA '98: Road to World Cup 71. Ninja Gaiden (NES) 70. Star Fox 69. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 68. Halo 2 67. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood 66. Beyond Good and Evil 65. Day of the Tentacle 64. Rez 63. Persona 4 62. Rome: Total War 61. Limbo 60. Burnout Paradise 59. The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 58. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 57. Spelunky 56. X-COM: UFO Defense 55. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 54. Banjo-Kazooie 53. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 52. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 51. Far Cry 2 50. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 49. Kingdom Hearts 48. Batman: Arkham City 47. Chrono Trigger 46. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 45. Civilization 5 44. Pokemon Gold and Silver 43. Fallout 3 42. Counter-Strike 41. Space Invaders 40. Deus Ex 39. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 38. Max Payne 37. Metroid Prime 36. Ico 35. Grand Theft Auto (1997) 34. Final Fantasy VII 33. Resident Evil 4 32. Half-Life 31. The Sims 2 30. Doom (1993) 29. The Curse of Monkey Island 28. Duke Nukem 3D 27. God of War (2005) 26. Unreal Tournament 2004 25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 24. Dark Souls 23. Mass Effect 2 22. Bioshock 21. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 20. Super Metroid 19. Metal Gear Solid 18. Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines 17. Street Fighter 2 16. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 15. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 14. World of Warcraft 13. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 12. Super Mario World 11. Goldeneye 10. Super Mario Kart 9. Rollercoaster Tycoon 8. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 7. Portal 6. Super Mario Galaxy 5. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 4. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 3. Tetris 2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 1. The Last of Us |
New additions to the main list as a result of this list's incorporation will be Pokemon Gold and Silver, Mega Man X, Beyond Good & Evil, Rome: Total War, Thief II: The Metal Age, Halo 2, and The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. Phediuk ( talk) 23:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
The Spanish edition of GQ published a Top 100 list in 2018. GQ is a RS for pop-culture topics (along the lines of FHM, Entertainment Weekly, etc.), and a quick search turns up many citations in gaming-related WP articles, so it should be fine on that front. Furthermore, the list's principal author, John Tones, was also a staff member for Spanish version of GamesTM. Looks like this list passes muster, so I'm going to incorporate it.
GQ
|
---|
100. Barbarian 99. Bloodborne 98. NBA 2K13 97. Firewatch 96. Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery 95. Counter-Strike: Source 94. Overwatch 93. Metroid Prime 92. The Witness 91. Horizon Zero Dawn 90. Rez 89. Grim Fandango 88. Pitfall 87. Cuphead 86. Super Mario Kart 85. Ikaruga 84. Final Fantasy VII 83. Spider-Man (2018) 82. Simcity 2000 81. Shenmue 80. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 79. Tomb Raider (1996) 78. Skate 77. Minecraft 76. Left 4 Dead 2 75. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 74. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 73. Civilization IV 72. Gears of War 2 71. Sonic the Hedgehog 70. Okami 69. Advance Wars 68. Team Fortress 2 67. Super Meat Boy 66. Diablo 2 65. Mega Man 2 64. Braid 63. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 62. Journey 61. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 60. Dark Souls 59. Batman: Arkham City 58. Super Mario Galaxy 2 57. Mass Effect 2 56. World of Warcraft 55. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 54. Shadow of the Colossus 53. Super Metroid 52. Shadow of the Beast (1989) 51. Borderlands 2 50. Just Cause 2 49. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 48. Rock Band 47. Black 46. Castle of Illusion (1990) 45. Panzer Dragoon 44. Destiny 43. La abadía del crimen 42. Metal Slug 41. Psychonauts 40. Lemmings 39. Arkanoid: Revenge of Doh 38. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 37. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 36. Contra 3: The Alien Wars 35. Gradius 5 34. Chrono Trigger 33. Max Payne 3 32. Quake 31. Mortal Kombat (1992) 30. Outrun 29. Deus Ex 28. Popeye 27. Wipeout HD 26. Bayonetta 25. Bioshock Infinite 24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 23. Halo 22. Final Fight 21. Dishonored 20. X-COM: UFO Defense 19. Fallout 2 18. Ghosts 'n Goblins 17. Manhunt 16. Burnout Paradise 15. Street Fighter 2 14. R-Type 13. Super Hexagon 12. Donkey Kong 11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 10. Tetris 9. God Hand 8. The Secret of Monkey Island 7. Red Dead Redemption 6. Resident Evil 4 5. Half-Life 2 4. Silent Hill 2 3. Super Mario World 2. Pac-Man 1. Portal 2 |
Once this list is incorporated, R-Type, Fallout 2, Mortal Kombat, Super Meat Boy, Left 4 Dead 2, Ikaruga, and Overwatch will all return to the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 20:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I've noticed that many games that were included on this list as early as last night are no longer included. While I do not have a complete list, some of these games include Ninja Gaiden, Banjo-Kazooie, Pokemon Gold and Silver, Rock Band 3, and Fire Emblem Awakening. Was there an adjustment made to the criteria or a list?
After another lengthy search, I found one more list. The Irish Times covers video games, and did a Top 50 list back in 2013. The paper itself is obviously RS, cited extensively on WP; furthermore, the authors who wrote the article, Joe Griffin and Ciara O'Brien, are also real journalists; Griffin was one of their regular video game writers for 10 years (2005-15), and O'Brien has been a staff tech writer for them since 2007. Everything checks out, then, so I'm adding the list to the main page.
IrishTimes
|
---|
50. Tomb Raider (2013) 49. North and South 48. Minecraft 47. Heavy Rain 46. Civilization 45. Quake 44. Bioshock Infinite 43. Limbo 42. Resistance 2 41. Journey 40. Gravity Rush 39. The Secret of Monkey Island 38. Tekken 3 37. Strider (1989) 36. Dance Central 2 35. Last Ninja 2 34. LittleBigPlanet 2 33. Rock Band 32. Bulletstorm 31. Plants vs. Zombies 30. Dishonored 29. Battlefield 3 28. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 27. Angry Birds 26. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood 25. Zuma 24. Gears of War 2 23. Driver: San Francisco 22. Peggle 21. Mirror's Edge 20. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 19. Borderlands 2 18. Street Fighter IV 17. Soul Calibur 4 16. Space Invaders 15. FIFA 12 14. Pac-Man 13. Resident Evil (1996) 12. Super Mario Kart 11. The Last of Us 10. Half-Life 2 9. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 8. Metal Gear Solid 7. Super Mario Bros. 6. Red Dead Redemption 5. Mass Effect 2 4. Portal 2 3. Tetris 2. Halo 3 1. Grand Theft Auto III |
Amazingly, no games to be added. Phediuk ( talk) 06:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
This came up before, but I guess I'm not one of the people worried about list bloat too much. If the list is long, so be it, I'd be happy with keeping it at 5 sources flat. That said, while it opens up accusations of arbitrariness, if we do increase the threshold, can we at least have a separate criteria for recent games, and possibly very old games as well? Sourcing is inherently harder to find for a 2015 game compared to a 2004 game with the nature of the list. If we say "only" 5 sources for games released in 2010 or after, and possibly 1990 or before as well, and enforce 6 sources on the middle-year games from 1991-2009, that leads to less warping of the results simply by which lists are picked to be used at all. SnowFire ( talk) 20:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm happy to be bold and make the revisions myself, but it'll only matter if the change is maintained and agreed on. @ Phediuk:, since you've been doing so much of the recent maintenance, and also upped the threshold to 6 - what are your thoughts? Would you be up for either going back to just 5 sources and having a somewhat long list, or else having some sort of custom rule by release date, or are you firmly in favor of 6 everywhere? SnowFire ( talk) 22:05, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
((x number of sources)/(total number of sources))*100 ≈ established % limit starts to teeter on the edge of a math based method. I also agree with the thinking that this method makes it significantly harder for any new games to be included on the list. The total number of sources will increase overtime which would increase the required number of sources per game. This means it would take new games longer to achieve enough references for inclusion (if they ever would. Future lists should still be citing many of the older games leaving less room for new ones to potentially be included). Durchschnitt ( talk) 14:43, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Another list uncovered! We already have Stuff's 2017 list, but their print edition also did a list back in 2008, which can be observed here. As with the 2017 list, it's staff-chosen and covers all platforms, so it looks ripe for inclusion here. I've transcribed it below:
Stuff2008
|
---|
100. Jet Set Radio 99. Mercenary 98. Final Fantasy III (1990) 97. Dungeon Master 96. Treasure of Usas 95. Skies of Arcadia 94. Red Baron 3D 93. PGA Tour Golf 92. Sid Meier's Pirates (1987) 91. Tomb Raider (1996) 90. Rome: Total War 89. Virtua Fighter 2 88. Rainbow Islands 87. California Games 86. Ant Attack 85. Micro Machines 84. Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 83. Skate 82. Ico 81. Timesplitters 2 80. Alone in the Dark (1992) 79. Virtua Cop 78. Spy vs. Spy 77. Stunt Car Racer 76. Pong 75. Flashback 74. Kick Off 2 73. Head Over Heels 72. Metal Slug 71. Mass Effect 70. Phantasy Star II 69. Castlevania 68. Crazy Taxi 67. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 66. Pac-Man 65. Simcity (1989) 64. Underwurlde 63. Road Rash 2 62. NBA Jam 61. The Sims 60. Mechwarrior 2 59. Football Manager 2 58. Star Fox 57. Super Metroid 56. Outrun 55. Super Mario Bros. 3 54. Resident Evil 4 53. Diablo 52. Xenon 2 Megablast 51. Defender of the Crown 50. Command & Conquer 49. Chase HQ 48. Jet Set Willy 47. World of Warcraft 46. Shenmue 45. Deus Ex 44. Star Wars: X-Wing 43. Patapon 42. Motorstorm 41. Bubble Bobble 40. R-Type 39. Monkey Island II: LeChuck's Revenge 38. Bioshock 37. Worms 36. Civilization 35. Virtua Tennis 34. Wipeout 33. God of War (2005) 32. Streets of Rage 2 31. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 30. Sega Rally Championship 29. Okami 28. Wii Sports 27. Street Fighter 2 26. Tetris 25. Singstar 24. Lemmings 23. Super Mario Galaxy 22. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 21. Animal Crossing: Wild World 20. Mega Bomberman 19. Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe 18. Super Mario 64 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 16. Quake III: Arena 15. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 14. Halo 13. Guitar Hero 12. Sensible World of Soccer 11. Super Mario Kart 10. Turrican 2 9. Grand Theft Auto III 8. Doom (1993) 7. Sonic the Hedgehog 6. Elite 5. Super Mario World 4. Goldeneye 3. Final Fantasy VII 2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 1. Half-Life 2 |
Will figure out what's to be added to the main list shortly. Phediuk ( talk) 14:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The GamesRadar list currently listed is actually its list for 2015, not 2013; the site actually did a top 100 annually for 5 years in a row, and they can be found at these links:
2011 - 2012 - 2013 - 2014 - 2015
Will get to work on transcribing all of them. Phediuk ( talk) 18:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2011
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Tetris 3. Chrono Trigger 4. Grand Theft Auto IV 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Super Mario Bros. 3 7. Shadow of the Colossus 8. Half-Life 2 9. Super Metroid 10. Mass Effect 2 11. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 12. Bioshock 13. Street Fighter IV 14. Final Fantasy VI 15. Red Dead Redemption 16. Super Mario Galaxy 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 18. Resident Evil 4 19. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 20. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 21. Metal Gear Solid 22. Batman: Arkham Asylum 23. World of Warcraft 24. Civilization IV 25. Deus Ex 26. Pokemon Black and White 27. Super Mario 64 28. The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 29. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 30. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 31. Ico 32. Ms. Pac-Man 33. Half-Life 34. Left 4 Dead 2 35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 36. Silent Hill 2 37. Mega Man 2 38. Diablo II 39. The Sims 3 40. Okami 41. Halo 3 42. Gears of War 2 43. Rock Band 2 44. God of War (2005) 45. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 46. Super Mario Kart 47. Assassin’s Creed 2 48. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 49. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 50. Grim Fandango 51. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 52. SimCity 3000 53. Final Fantasy Tactics 54. Katamari Damacy 55. Doom 2 56. Counter-Strike 57. Burnout 3: Takedown 58. Fallout 2 59. Advance Wars 60. Final Fantasy X 61. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 62. Soul Calibur 63. Bejeweled 3 64. Day of the Tentacle 65. Sega Rally Championship 66. Braid 67. Sonic CD 68. Psychonauts 69. Secret of Mana 70. Beyond Good and Evil 71. Team Fortress 2 72. Super Smash Bros. Melee 73. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 74. Yoshi’s Island 75. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 76. Donkey Kong Country 77. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 78. Super Punch-Out!! 79. Kingdom Hearts 80. Tomb Raider (1996) 81. F-Zero GX 82. Contra III: The Alien Wars 83. King’s Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow 84. Rez 85. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 86. Magic Land Dizzy 87. Tetris Attack 88. Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2 89. Planetside 90. Earthbound 91. Quake III: Arena 92. Cobra Triangle 93. Shenmue 94. WWF: No Mercy 95. Bubble Bobble 96. Killer 7 97. Blazing Lazers 98. Lumines 99. Ducktales (NES) 100. Minecraft |
Based on the 2011 list, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, Psychonauts, Beyond Good & Evil, Bubble Bobble, and Katamari Damacy will go on the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 18:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2012
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Tetris 3. Chrono Trigger 4. Super Mario Bros. 3 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Grand Theft Auto IV 7. Shadow of the Colossus 8. Bioshock 9. Super Metroid 10. Mass Effect 2 11. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 12. Half-Life 2 13. Street Fighter IV 14. Final Fantasy VI 15. Red Dead Redemption 16. Super Mario Galaxy 2 17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 18. Resident Evil 4 19. Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty 20. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 21. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 22. Portal 2 23. Batman: Arkham City 24. Final Fantasy X 25. World of Warcraft 26. Civilization V 27. Deus Ex 28. Pokemon Black and White 29. Super Mario 64 30. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 31. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 32. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 33. Ico 34. Ms. Pac-Man 35. Left 4 Dead 2 36. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 37. Silent Hill 2 38. Mega Man 2 39. Diablo II 40. The Sims 3 41. Okami 42. Halo 3 43. Rock Band 3 44. Gears of War 2 45. God of War 46. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 47. Mario Kart 7 48. EarthBound 49. Assassin’s Creed II 50. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 51. Metal Gear Solid 52. Grim Fandango 53. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 54. SimCity 2000 55. Final Fantasy Tactics 56. Katamari Damacy 57. Doom 2 58. Counter-Strike 59. Burnout Paradise 60. Fallout 2 61. Advance Wars 62. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 63. Soul Calibur II 64. Braid 65. Day of the Tentacle 66. Sega Rally Championship 67. Journey 68. Sonic CD 69. Psychonauts 70. Secret of Mana 71. Beyond Good and Evil 72. Team Fortress 2 73. Super Smash Bros. Melee 74. League of Legends 75. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 76. Yoshi’s Island 77. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 78. Donkey Kong Country 79. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 80. Super Punch-Out!! 81. Kingdom Hearts II 82. Super Meat Boy 83. Tomb Raider (1996) 84. F-Zero GX 85. Contra III: The Alien Wars 86. The Secret of Monkey Island 87. Rez 88. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 89. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 90. Tetris Attack 91. Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee 2 92. Quake III: Arena 93. Suikoden 2 94. Castle Crashers 95. WWF: No Mercy 96. Limbo 97. Ikaruga 98. Lumines 99. Ducktales (NES) 100. Minecraft |
SoulCalibur II will be returning to the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 18:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2013
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Chrono Trigger 3. Super Metroid 4. Shadow of the Colossus 5. Legend of Zelda, The: The Wind Waker 6. BioShock 7. Super Mario Bros. 3 8. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 10. World of Warcraft 11. Mass Effect 2 12. Red Dead Redemption 13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 14. Batman: Arkham City 15. Half-Life 2 16. Team Fortress 2 17. Assassin’s Creed II 18. Metroid Prime 19. Persona 4 20. Dark Souls 21. Street Fighter IV 22. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 23. Tetris DS 24. The Walking Dead 25. Journey 26. Grand Theft Auto IV 27. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 28. Resident Evil 4 29. Final Fantasy VI 30. Counter-Strike 31. Mother 3 32. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 33. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 34. Rock Band 3 35. Braid 36. Halo 4 37. Mega Man 2 38. Diablo II 39. Pokemon Black and White 40. Dragon Age: Origins 41. Civilization V 42. Burnout Paradise 43. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 44. Final Fantasy X 45. Yoshi’s Island 46. Super Meat Boy 47. Advance Wars 48. Mario Kart 7 49. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 50. Final Fantasy Tactics 51. XCOM: Enemy Unknown 52. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 53. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 54. The Secret of Monkey Island 55. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 56. Okami 57. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 58. Gears of War 2 59. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 60. Psychonauts 61. Dead Space 2 62. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 63. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 64. Planescape: Torment 65. Saints Row: The Third 66. Unreal Tournament 2004 67. Star Fox 64 68. Fallout 2 69. League of Legends 70. Cave Story 71. Forza Motorsport 4 72. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 73. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 74. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 75. Grim Fandango 76. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 77. Bayonetta 78. Bomberman Live 79. To the Moon 80. Shadowrun (SNES) 81. Paper Mario 82. Virtua Fighter 5 83. Secret of Mana 84. Grid 85. Silent Hill 2 86. Worms Armageddon 87. Left 4 Dead 2 88. Minecraft 89. The Sims 3 90. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 91. Infinity Blade 2 92. Planet Puzzle League 93. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 94. Pac-Man Championship Edition 95. Limbo 96. Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 97. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 98. Lumines 99. Sega Rally Championship 100. NFL Blitz |
No new games going on the main list. Phediuk ( talk) 19:07, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
GamesRadar2014
|
---|
1. Portal 2. Chrono Trigger 3. Super Metroid 4. Shadow of the Colossus 5. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 6. Bioshock 7. Super Mario World 8. The Last of Us 9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 10. World of Warcraft 11. Mass Effect 2 12. Red Dead Redemption 13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 14. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 15. Batman: Arkham City 16. Half-Life 2 17. Tomb Raider (2013) 18. Team Fortress 2 19. Metroid Prime 20. Persona 4 21. Dark Souls 22. League of Legends 23. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 24. Street Fighter IV 25. Tetris DS 26. The Walking Dead 27. Journey 28. Grand Theft Auto V 29. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 30. Resident Evil 4 31. Final Fantasy VI 32. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag 33. Mother 3 34. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 36. Rock Band 3 37. Braid 38. Halo 4 39. Mega Man 2 40. Diablo II 41. Pokemon X and Y 42. Dragon Age: Origins 43. Civilization V 44. Burnout Paradise 45. XCOM: Enemy Unknown 46. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 47. Final Fantasy X 48. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island 49. Super Meat Boy 50. Advance Wars 51. Mario Kart 7 52. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 53. Final Fantasy Tactics 54. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim 55. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 56. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 57. Fire Emblem: Awakening 58. The Secret of Monkey Island 59. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 60. Okami 61. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 62. Gears of War 2 63. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 64. Psychonauts 65. Dead Space 2 66. Deus Ex: Human Revolution 67. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 68. Planescape: Torment 69. Saints Row: The Third 70. Unreal Tournament 2004 71. Star Fox 64 72. Fallout 2 73. Cave Story 74. Forza Motorsport 4 75. StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 76. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 77. Donkey Kong (Game Boy, 1994) 78. Battlefield 4 79. Grim Fandango 80. Far Cry 3 81. Bayonetta 82. Bomberman Live 83. To the Moon 84. Paper Mario 85. Virtua Fighter 5 86. Secret of Mana 87. Grid 88. Silent Hill 2 89. Worms Armageddon 90. Left 4 Dead 2 91. Minecraft 92. The Sims 3 93. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 94. Planet Puzzle League 95. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader 96. Pac-Man Championship Edition 97. Limbo 98. Lumines 99. Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 100. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne |
No additional games to be added to the main list from this one either. Phediuk ( talk) 19:15, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
My question is why is the sims on this list? Do I really need to explain why it’s bad? I’ve done it a million times on other places. Sonicfan200530 ( talk) 23:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
What I’m saying is that The Sims has more controversy’s than appearances on best game list. Sonicfan200530 ( talk) 19:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I've been removing Undertale from the page for god knows how long. And I thought I might list the main reason as to why I keep doing it.
First of all, practically all of the sources for Undertale haven't been viable enough for being on this page. Most of the sources I see are stuff like "Best Game of 2015", "Top 10 Indie Games you Need to play" etc. The problem with those is that they are either not helpful, doesn't talk about how Undertale is a game for the ages or are only for the year it was released in. Compare Undertale's sources to a game like Skyrim for example. That game won A LOT of Game of the Year awards and was highly rated in Top 10 Games of 2011 list and when you look at that game's sources, it's mostly stuff like Top 100 Games of All Time lists and a Metacritic page, which I'll get to later. Heck, compare it to something like Journey for example, that's an Indie Game as well and the sources for that don't have stuff like "Top 10 Indie Games" or "Best Games of 2012", it has the same sources as Skyrim, features in Best Games of All Time lists and stuff like that.
Next up is Steam's "Highest Rated Games" source. Honestly, that is a TERRIBLE source for one reason and one reason only, it is user-based. If you look at the top-rated games you can see that One Finger Death Punch a small little Indie Game that is somewhat stupid, yet awesome. Is not only above Undertale, but is at Rank TWO right behind Portal 2.
Finally, there's Metacritic. First of all, the Metacritic page isn't judging the Greatest games across all platforms, it talks about PC games ONLY. Also, on the Methodology section, you can see that it says that seventh generation games need to be in the Top 25 to be considered for the page. When I wrote this, Undertale is at 28th place on the best PC games and is in 159th place on the best games of all platforms. Not to mention, Metacritic has it's OWN section on the Other Criteria part, which considers the Top 20 games on their site, which Undertale ISN'T in.
Subtracting all of the sources that are "Best of 2015" lists (-2), the lists that consider only Indie Games (Journey didn't have them so why Undertale?) (-2) and Metacritc and Steam (-1 for both) that leaves Undertale with only 2 sources left, invalidating it's addition to this page and as such needs to be removed. I suggest people who want to put Undertale on this page read this before considering how they do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.147.168 ( talk • contribs)
Honestly, while I do think Undertale should be on there, it’s probably not until the 2019 lists, I’m already collecting lists on some games to include them on this list (Don’t worry, it’s all best games of all times, not best indie games or best games of 2015.). DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Granted, God of War did won Game of the Year, and Red Dead Redemption 2 is highly praised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaveMaster409 ( talk • contribs) 17:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Probably DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 18:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
List of video games considered the best has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
please add Red Dead Redemption 2 and Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 on the list because they have high ratings on metacritic with 97 rating thabk you 27.99.80.121 ( talk) 08:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
They’re not going to at all, not anytime soon of course. DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 13:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
List of video games considered the best has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
also please add on the list Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns Of the Patriots and Metal Gear Solid V the phantom Pain on the list because they have high ratings on metacritic 94 and 93 respectively 27.99.80.121 ( talk) 08:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Metacritic does not qualify, only Top 100 lists DogBrineLover101 ( talk) 13:37, 24 May 2019 (UTC)