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What are the inclusion criteria? These given are far too vague. What makes a speleologist or an oceanographer an undersea explorer? Does there have to be a Wikipedia article on the person? What about explorers under fresh water? Does the person have to have explored by physically going under the surface of the sea? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 02:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Discussion: I agree that the criteria are insuffiently strict. I just edited the section on Submersible Designers and Pilots -- I added Barton, Cameron, and Vescovo, all three of which were involved with the design and diving of their own craft. But here I find Allyn Vine who had no input into the design of the Alvin, nor did he ever dive in any submersible to my incomplete knowledge. Worse, are two names of divers, who apparently never dived in any submersible, much less involved with designing one. This article needs major attention. Gwyncann ( talk) 19:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
There is a difference. A lot of cave diving is not in the sea, and there are also other significant bodies of fresh water which are explored, such as the North American great lakes, where there are many wrecks. I propose moving this article to Underwater explorers if no-one objects, as the scope is more inclusive, and avoids the problem of having to remove some of the notable cave and wreck divers. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 11:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I also intend to remove the section on first generation diving safety officers as inappropriate. Either the person explored the underwater environment or they did not. Their status as a diving officer of whatever generation is not relevant. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 11:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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What are the inclusion criteria? These given are far too vague. What makes a speleologist or an oceanographer an undersea explorer? Does there have to be a Wikipedia article on the person? What about explorers under fresh water? Does the person have to have explored by physically going under the surface of the sea? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 02:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Discussion: I agree that the criteria are insuffiently strict. I just edited the section on Submersible Designers and Pilots -- I added Barton, Cameron, and Vescovo, all three of which were involved with the design and diving of their own craft. But here I find Allyn Vine who had no input into the design of the Alvin, nor did he ever dive in any submersible to my incomplete knowledge. Worse, are two names of divers, who apparently never dived in any submersible, much less involved with designing one. This article needs major attention. Gwyncann ( talk) 19:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
There is a difference. A lot of cave diving is not in the sea, and there are also other significant bodies of fresh water which are explored, such as the North American great lakes, where there are many wrecks. I propose moving this article to Underwater explorers if no-one objects, as the scope is more inclusive, and avoids the problem of having to remove some of the notable cave and wreck divers. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 11:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I also intend to remove the section on first generation diving safety officers as inappropriate. Either the person explored the underwater environment or they did not. Their status as a diving officer of whatever generation is not relevant. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 11:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)