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This article should not be limited in sources to the associated press. The associated press is flawed in its calcuation of the length of the vietnam war. Virtually all reliable comprehensive authorities state that the vietnam war began in the 1950's, the exact date is somewhat disputed though the United States Government considers the Vietnam war to have started on 1 November 1955. The article Vietnam War itself uses this start date in its infobox. Therefore the Vietnam war is by far America's longest war listed on this list, and not the war in Afghanistan. XavierGreen ( talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
What is this indicating? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.77.30 ( talk) 00:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
[1] Who are you trying to fool?
4. Iraq War 2003/03 – 2005/06 3.7 years (3 years, 7 months) 5. American Revolutionary War 1775/04 – 1783/09 8.4 years (8 years, 5 months)
A grad school kid realizes that the American Revolutionary War is not represented correctly by the blue bar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.140.6 ( talk) 11:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Vietnam War ran from 1 November 1955 to 30 April 1975, about twenty years. (As determined by the Department of Defense.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.135.154 ( talk) 02:39, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
http://benefits.va.gov/PENSIONANDFIDUCIARY/pension/wartimeperiod.asp
The US didn't send combat troops into Vietnam until 1965. The war started in 1955, but if this article is supposed to reflect US involvement then I think we should peg the start date as 1965. Until 1965 we only had advisers in Vietnam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZacharyGeorgeNN ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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help)Could the war on drugs be removed from this list? It has little-to-no military involvement, never received a declaration of war, and involves no combat against a foreign government or politcal body. Ashleyisachild ( talk) 17:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The title should be changed to "Length of U.S. participation in major wars and engagements". The U.S. hasn't declared war since World War II. The Iraq and Afghanistan "wars" are essentially the same as the "war" on drugs and the "war" on poverty. The fact that they are generally known as "wars" do not make them an officially declared war. See /info/en/?search=Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States -- WikiTryHardDieHard ( talk) 01:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
If we count those with >100 US losses, then Kosovo War should not be included, but we should add Moro Rebellion, Nez Perce War, Creek War, and Red Cloud's War. If over 75 is sufficient, then Black Hawk War and Dakota War of 1862 would be added too.-- Pharos ( talk) 21:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. I will be staring a new move request shortly. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC) Steel1943 ( talk) 16:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
List of the lengths of American participation in major wars → List of the lengths of American participation in armed conflicts – Major war doesn't exist and Major wars redirects to a section about ongoing wars (which is not the scope of this page since it also lists wars in the past), so current title is misleading. With this reasoning, moving this article to List of the lengths of American participation in wars may also be an option, but some articles I have found thus far regarding wars have the term "war" listed as "armed conflict" in their titles. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Lengths of U.S. conventional combat forces' participation in major warsI would much prefer the title: List of the lengths of U.S. participation in armed conflicts as it leaves no doubt as to whose forces are involved. Agree with "armed conflicts" element as "major war" is ambiguous and far too subjective. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:45, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
-- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. -- QEDK ( T ☕ C) 16:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
List of the lengths of American participation in major wars → List of the lengths of American participation in wars – Major war and Major wars do not exist, so this title could be somewhat misleading in regards to identifying the term. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:54, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
This really should not be "American", vide United States Army, President of the United States...-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 19:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The page War in Afghanistan (2001–present) was recently moved from "War in Afghanistan (2001–2014)" because it was deemed that the war is still very much ongoing (over 13,000 troops (6000+ US) remain without any formal plans to withdraw). It seems from the definition used on this page that the war should also be listed as ongoing here:
"Armed conflict" Yes, the official mission also includes counter terrorism operations, not just advising.
"U.S. military forces" Yes, over 6000 on the ground.
"Belligerents" Yes, Taliban, Al Queda, and others.
Any objections? BananaCarrot152 ( talk) 03:48, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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The Korean conflict is the longest [1]. Its been going on since 1945. Not sure why people on here want to pretend its not a war.-- Fruitloop11 ( talk) 02:36, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
University of Texas associate professor of history Aaron O’Connell mentions several other conflicts which could be added to the list: https://millercenter.org/issues-policy/foreign-policy/presidency-endless-war/afghanistan-uss-longest-war-it-depends-how-you-count. Mcljlm ( talk) 15:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
What about the US intervention in Yemen from (2002–present)? Doremon764 ( talk) 14:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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This article should not be limited in sources to the associated press. The associated press is flawed in its calcuation of the length of the vietnam war. Virtually all reliable comprehensive authorities state that the vietnam war began in the 1950's, the exact date is somewhat disputed though the United States Government considers the Vietnam war to have started on 1 November 1955. The article Vietnam War itself uses this start date in its infobox. Therefore the Vietnam war is by far America's longest war listed on this list, and not the war in Afghanistan. XavierGreen ( talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
What is this indicating? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.77.30 ( talk) 00:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
[1] Who are you trying to fool?
4. Iraq War 2003/03 – 2005/06 3.7 years (3 years, 7 months) 5. American Revolutionary War 1775/04 – 1783/09 8.4 years (8 years, 5 months)
A grad school kid realizes that the American Revolutionary War is not represented correctly by the blue bar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.140.6 ( talk) 11:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Vietnam War ran from 1 November 1955 to 30 April 1975, about twenty years. (As determined by the Department of Defense.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.135.154 ( talk) 02:39, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
http://benefits.va.gov/PENSIONANDFIDUCIARY/pension/wartimeperiod.asp
The US didn't send combat troops into Vietnam until 1965. The war started in 1955, but if this article is supposed to reflect US involvement then I think we should peg the start date as 1965. Until 1965 we only had advisers in Vietnam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZacharyGeorgeNN ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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help)Could the war on drugs be removed from this list? It has little-to-no military involvement, never received a declaration of war, and involves no combat against a foreign government or politcal body. Ashleyisachild ( talk) 17:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The title should be changed to "Length of U.S. participation in major wars and engagements". The U.S. hasn't declared war since World War II. The Iraq and Afghanistan "wars" are essentially the same as the "war" on drugs and the "war" on poverty. The fact that they are generally known as "wars" do not make them an officially declared war. See /info/en/?search=Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States -- WikiTryHardDieHard ( talk) 01:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
If we count those with >100 US losses, then Kosovo War should not be included, but we should add Moro Rebellion, Nez Perce War, Creek War, and Red Cloud's War. If over 75 is sufficient, then Black Hawk War and Dakota War of 1862 would be added too.-- Pharos ( talk) 21:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. I will be staring a new move request shortly. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC) Steel1943 ( talk) 16:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
List of the lengths of American participation in major wars → List of the lengths of American participation in armed conflicts – Major war doesn't exist and Major wars redirects to a section about ongoing wars (which is not the scope of this page since it also lists wars in the past), so current title is misleading. With this reasoning, moving this article to List of the lengths of American participation in wars may also be an option, but some articles I have found thus far regarding wars have the term "war" listed as "armed conflict" in their titles. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Lengths of U.S. conventional combat forces' participation in major warsI would much prefer the title: List of the lengths of U.S. participation in armed conflicts as it leaves no doubt as to whose forces are involved. Agree with "armed conflicts" element as "major war" is ambiguous and far too subjective. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:45, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
-- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. -- QEDK ( T ☕ C) 16:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
List of the lengths of American participation in major wars → List of the lengths of American participation in wars – Major war and Major wars do not exist, so this title could be somewhat misleading in regards to identifying the term. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:54, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
This really should not be "American", vide United States Army, President of the United States...-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 19:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The page War in Afghanistan (2001–present) was recently moved from "War in Afghanistan (2001–2014)" because it was deemed that the war is still very much ongoing (over 13,000 troops (6000+ US) remain without any formal plans to withdraw). It seems from the definition used on this page that the war should also be listed as ongoing here:
"Armed conflict" Yes, the official mission also includes counter terrorism operations, not just advising.
"U.S. military forces" Yes, over 6000 on the ground.
"Belligerents" Yes, Taliban, Al Queda, and others.
Any objections? BananaCarrot152 ( talk) 03:48, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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The Korean conflict is the longest [1]. Its been going on since 1945. Not sure why people on here want to pretend its not a war.-- Fruitloop11 ( talk) 02:36, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
University of Texas associate professor of history Aaron O’Connell mentions several other conflicts which could be added to the list: https://millercenter.org/issues-policy/foreign-policy/presidency-endless-war/afghanistan-uss-longest-war-it-depends-how-you-count. Mcljlm ( talk) 15:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
What about the US intervention in Yemen from (2002–present)? Doremon764 ( talk) 14:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)