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I think its notable, but i created it so i am biased. One could argue that the terminal caregory is the same, however it does't sort into OS's. Anyways I say Keep it ZyMOS ( talk) 21:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
why is minicom not listed? first sentence says its a terminal emulator. Seeing that HyperTerm, the windows equivalent to minicom is mentioned, too, i like to see it added, though its more of a serial console. 94.134.193.231 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 2 October 2011 (UTC).
One difference between the multiplexers (such as screen and tmux) and terminal emulators is that the latter provide the mapping from the keyboard to escape sequences such as those sent by cursor- and function-keys. The multiplexers may simply pass on the characters that they're sent by the actual terminal, or they may (less often done) translate the character sequence into their model of terminal emulation. (Likewise, some features such as autowrapping are assumed by the multiplexers and may not be provided if the underlying terminal does not support the feature) TEDickey ( talk) 12:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
The two multiplexers are actually termcap applications, don't use curses (programming library) for any of its higher-level features. TEDickey ( talk) 12:16, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Screen is not just a multiplexer. Screen always emulates a vt100 on anything in the same way that wy60 emulates a wy60. For example viewing groff -ms output via less -R in screen on an ibm3151. Try it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.189.65.106 ( talk) 15:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
There is two not listed Console Emulators (multiplexors?). ConEmu: Hanselman's post, progect page. And Console2: Hanselman's post, project page. May be, they will be added? Maximus7792 ( talk) 00:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a reliable source because its content can change without notice; the origin of comments in Wikipedia cannot be traced (except through reliable sources) to actual authorities on a given topic, etc. In every instance, an reliable source is preferred to commentary in Wikipedia TEDickey ( talk) 23:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we only publish the opinions of reliable authors, and not the opinions of Wikipedians who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves.
"TakeCommand/LE" is not a terminal emulator. It is only command processor, that may be started in any terminal. But "Take Command" is. I suggest to replace whole line "TakeCommand/LE [6] - works well (incl. latest cygwin)" with " Take Command" Maximus7792 ( talk) 07:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
In addition to the previously listed problems, "Win32 console" I also not a terminal emulator at all. A terminal emulator has a very specific job to perform; emulating a terminal for access to a remote system. Win32 console is a local only command line interface; a completely different job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.174.80.138 ( talk) 16:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
I think something similar to this and Comparison of terminal emulators is needed for Block-oriented terminals. primarily IBM 3270 of course, but also IBM 5250 and various non-IBM block-mode terminals. Should it be added to these lists, or should there be a new list? Peter Flass ( talk) 00:39, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Rasterman released Terminology some weeks ago, very neat and promising. Feel free to add it. best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.18.64.230 ( talk) 21:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
http://realterm.sourceforge.net/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.80.255.144 ( talk) 14:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
I removed the notability hatnote {{
notability}}
. The guideline says "a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources." There are numerous articles of the type "Comparison of Terminal Emulators" that do just that. See
[1] or
[2].
Peter Flass (
talk)
23:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Oddly enough, no one's written a topic for it, to establish notability (probably doable). The other random edits as a rule are not. TEDickey ( talk) 01:56, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
What's the purpose of listing terminal emulators for a partial list of operating systems? And why isn't it called "Partial list of terminal emulators"? Where's the list for Android? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.72.145.165 ( talk) 21:59, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much information on historic terminal emulators. In the 1980's, when we only had physical terminals connected by RS-232 connections, not everyone could afford a DEC VT102. We had to use ADM3 terminals or other ones that lacked many of the advanced features of the VT100 family. So we used programs like the 1986 program vtem, (available on FTP archive of comp.unix.sources)) Another useful program was tn3270 - which emulated the IBM 3270 terminal. These were years before xWindows was announced.
And then this brings to mind the issues we had dealing with non-vt100 terminals, using the TERMCAP database. BruceBarnett ( talk) 13:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
There are at least 5 terminal emulators not listed in the article.
kitty :A cross-platform, fast, feature full, GPU based terminal emulator - https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty notty: A new kind of terminal - https://github.com/withoutboats/notty alacritty: A cross-platform, GPU-accelerated terminal emulator - https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty tilix: A tiling terminal emulator for Linux using GTK+ 3 - https://github.com/gnunn1/tilix cool-retro-term: A good looking terminal emulator which mimics the old cathode display... - https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
Descriptions are taken directly from their repositories.
182.253.36.193 ( talk) 15:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
What's wrong with mentioning the historical terminal emulator in the old Norton Commanders ? Norton Commander was surely notable as a file manager, as was their suite of utilities back in the day.
(Yes, nowadays it's only promotion and crappy antiviruses, but I was not talking about those.)
Anyway, it's history, so if you wish to not include it, it probably won't affect anyone (those who knew it don't need to see it here, those who don't know it or forgot it don't need it at all).
66.171.170.254 (
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21:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
For example /info/en/?search=Category:Free_terminal_emulators
Also queries to Wikidata.
Vitaly Zdanevich ( talk) 01:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
The section for List_of_terminal_emulators#macOS, like the other operating-system sections appears to be for applications that in some way are specific to that system, while more general applications are in X11 and Wayland. Offhand, kitty isn't specific to macOS, doesn't use any macOS-specific APIs, and is not part of any well-known macOS application. So... adding it there appears to be promotional rather than factual TEDickey ( talk) 00:15, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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I think its notable, but i created it so i am biased. One could argue that the terminal caregory is the same, however it does't sort into OS's. Anyways I say Keep it ZyMOS ( talk) 21:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
why is minicom not listed? first sentence says its a terminal emulator. Seeing that HyperTerm, the windows equivalent to minicom is mentioned, too, i like to see it added, though its more of a serial console. 94.134.193.231 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 2 October 2011 (UTC).
One difference between the multiplexers (such as screen and tmux) and terminal emulators is that the latter provide the mapping from the keyboard to escape sequences such as those sent by cursor- and function-keys. The multiplexers may simply pass on the characters that they're sent by the actual terminal, or they may (less often done) translate the character sequence into their model of terminal emulation. (Likewise, some features such as autowrapping are assumed by the multiplexers and may not be provided if the underlying terminal does not support the feature) TEDickey ( talk) 12:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
The two multiplexers are actually termcap applications, don't use curses (programming library) for any of its higher-level features. TEDickey ( talk) 12:16, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Screen is not just a multiplexer. Screen always emulates a vt100 on anything in the same way that wy60 emulates a wy60. For example viewing groff -ms output via less -R in screen on an ibm3151. Try it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.189.65.106 ( talk) 15:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
There is two not listed Console Emulators (multiplexors?). ConEmu: Hanselman's post, progect page. And Console2: Hanselman's post, project page. May be, they will be added? Maximus7792 ( talk) 00:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a reliable source because its content can change without notice; the origin of comments in Wikipedia cannot be traced (except through reliable sources) to actual authorities on a given topic, etc. In every instance, an reliable source is preferred to commentary in Wikipedia TEDickey ( talk) 23:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we only publish the opinions of reliable authors, and not the opinions of Wikipedians who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves.
"TakeCommand/LE" is not a terminal emulator. It is only command processor, that may be started in any terminal. But "Take Command" is. I suggest to replace whole line "TakeCommand/LE [6] - works well (incl. latest cygwin)" with " Take Command" Maximus7792 ( talk) 07:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
In addition to the previously listed problems, "Win32 console" I also not a terminal emulator at all. A terminal emulator has a very specific job to perform; emulating a terminal for access to a remote system. Win32 console is a local only command line interface; a completely different job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.174.80.138 ( talk) 16:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
I think something similar to this and Comparison of terminal emulators is needed for Block-oriented terminals. primarily IBM 3270 of course, but also IBM 5250 and various non-IBM block-mode terminals. Should it be added to these lists, or should there be a new list? Peter Flass ( talk) 00:39, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Rasterman released Terminology some weeks ago, very neat and promising. Feel free to add it. best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.18.64.230 ( talk) 21:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
http://realterm.sourceforge.net/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.80.255.144 ( talk) 14:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
I removed the notability hatnote {{
notability}}
. The guideline says "a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources." There are numerous articles of the type "Comparison of Terminal Emulators" that do just that. See
[1] or
[2].
Peter Flass (
talk)
23:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Oddly enough, no one's written a topic for it, to establish notability (probably doable). The other random edits as a rule are not. TEDickey ( talk) 01:56, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
What's the purpose of listing terminal emulators for a partial list of operating systems? And why isn't it called "Partial list of terminal emulators"? Where's the list for Android? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.72.145.165 ( talk) 21:59, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much information on historic terminal emulators. In the 1980's, when we only had physical terminals connected by RS-232 connections, not everyone could afford a DEC VT102. We had to use ADM3 terminals or other ones that lacked many of the advanced features of the VT100 family. So we used programs like the 1986 program vtem, (available on FTP archive of comp.unix.sources)) Another useful program was tn3270 - which emulated the IBM 3270 terminal. These were years before xWindows was announced.
And then this brings to mind the issues we had dealing with non-vt100 terminals, using the TERMCAP database. BruceBarnett ( talk) 13:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
There are at least 5 terminal emulators not listed in the article.
kitty :A cross-platform, fast, feature full, GPU based terminal emulator - https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty notty: A new kind of terminal - https://github.com/withoutboats/notty alacritty: A cross-platform, GPU-accelerated terminal emulator - https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty tilix: A tiling terminal emulator for Linux using GTK+ 3 - https://github.com/gnunn1/tilix cool-retro-term: A good looking terminal emulator which mimics the old cathode display... - https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
Descriptions are taken directly from their repositories.
182.253.36.193 ( talk) 15:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
What's wrong with mentioning the historical terminal emulator in the old Norton Commanders ? Norton Commander was surely notable as a file manager, as was their suite of utilities back in the day.
(Yes, nowadays it's only promotion and crappy antiviruses, but I was not talking about those.)
Anyway, it's history, so if you wish to not include it, it probably won't affect anyone (those who knew it don't need to see it here, those who don't know it or forgot it don't need it at all).
66.171.170.254 (
talk)
21:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
For example /info/en/?search=Category:Free_terminal_emulators
Also queries to Wikidata.
Vitaly Zdanevich ( talk) 01:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
The section for List_of_terminal_emulators#macOS, like the other operating-system sections appears to be for applications that in some way are specific to that system, while more general applications are in X11 and Wayland. Offhand, kitty isn't specific to macOS, doesn't use any macOS-specific APIs, and is not part of any well-known macOS application. So... adding it there appears to be promotional rather than factual TEDickey ( talk) 00:15, 5 December 2022 (UTC)