With the use of the data template for temples under construction - I think we should discuss the numbering issue again. Typically we have numbered temples on this page using the following rules
This means that temples that are announced but have difficulty getting started have a changing number as other temples have ground breakings and skip ahead. The same thing happens when a temple under construction is completed faster than ones started before it, since when it is dedicated its number changes to match the numbering on lds.org. Thus all temples numbered under 2 or 3 are tentative.
I think having the temple have a number on the temple's individual page that is tentative could be confusing - and at least one other person agrees as the data templates that have been created and used for Infoboxes sometimes say TBD for the number.
On the other hand the numbering doesn't really mean anything and we could continue the practice of italicizing them so that they are differentiated.
I plan to use the numbering that we have always used on this page unless there are substantive objections and consensus is reached on an alternative solution. -- Trödel 16:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've been thinking about this issue over the weekend. And one of the things a list should do on Wikipedia is not just reproduce lists available elsewhere, which is why I see this list as a combination of the best of what is on lds.org and ldschurchtemples.com with some extra information thrown in when we can. Therefore I do not think we are tied to not numbering the temples simply because lds.org does not. Additionally, I think that numbering them provides a little something extra - not non lds.org in an approximate placement of the temple in the numbering scheme - and it makes it easy to see how many there are total including either under construction or UC and announced temples.
For similar reasons I am in favor of keeping the two lists separate - and not combining them like lds.org and ldschurchtemples.com do. I think it is nice to go to the list and know immediately which ones are under construction and which ones are announced, and I think providing them in separate sections adds some value above what is available on those lists.
Since I brought up the issue because it seems strange to have a number for the temple on the temple's infobox - I will edit the infobox template so it puts in TBD for the number on Under Construction and Announced temples, that way we can leave a number in the data page and on this list.
In the mean time I have implemented the combination per Jgstokes - since the mixture of old and new templates is complicated and something I hope to get rid of soon. However, I would be in favor of restoring it as two sections. PS - I'm not quite sure we have a consensus on these issues yet - I mean we are getting there amongst us 3. However, perhaps we should solicit opinions from the wikiproject to make sure we have a wide range of viewpoints. -- Trödel 16:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
This has been fully implemented - I plan to do the same for all other statuses. Any thoughts-concerns before/as I get started. -- Trödel 17:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
The Panama Temple was dedicated on Sunday by President Thomas S. Monson. For verification of this, see President Monson dedicates LDS Church's 127th Temple, in Panama and LDS Church's 127th temple is dedicated in Panama. I would add Panama to the list of dedicated temples myself, but there is much about the used template that I don't understand, and I don't want to mess the list up. Could someone with more WP template knowledge than I have please fix this? Thanks. -- Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable ( talk) 16:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see GPS location information for each temple. Is there a reason why this is not there at present? TimRiker ( talk) 17:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Here are updates on the locations of newly announced temples:
See press release. Sorry not to oblige with the edit... attempt was unsuccessful. Jim ( talk) 22:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
It would be a good idea to add a coordinates parameter, making use of {{ coord}}. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 23:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is the Endowment House listed here as if it were a temple? It never was considered a temple; it was only a temporary location to administer temple ordinances (limited to the living only) while the Salt Lake Temple was being constructed; precedents at other locations include the Salt Lake City Council House and the Red Brick Store. It does not belong on this list as if it were a temple, though it is useful as a see also. If it must be included included, it needs to be part of a separate section listing all of the other documented locations where temple ordinances were preformed outside of a temple. -- 208.81.184.4 ( talk) 17:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
With the use of the data template for temples under construction - I think we should discuss the numbering issue again. Typically we have numbered temples on this page using the following rules
This means that temples that are announced but have difficulty getting started have a changing number as other temples have ground breakings and skip ahead. The same thing happens when a temple under construction is completed faster than ones started before it, since when it is dedicated its number changes to match the numbering on lds.org. Thus all temples numbered under 2 or 3 are tentative.
I think having the temple have a number on the temple's individual page that is tentative could be confusing - and at least one other person agrees as the data templates that have been created and used for Infoboxes sometimes say TBD for the number.
On the other hand the numbering doesn't really mean anything and we could continue the practice of italicizing them so that they are differentiated.
I plan to use the numbering that we have always used on this page unless there are substantive objections and consensus is reached on an alternative solution. -- Trödel 16:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've been thinking about this issue over the weekend. And one of the things a list should do on Wikipedia is not just reproduce lists available elsewhere, which is why I see this list as a combination of the best of what is on lds.org and ldschurchtemples.com with some extra information thrown in when we can. Therefore I do not think we are tied to not numbering the temples simply because lds.org does not. Additionally, I think that numbering them provides a little something extra - not non lds.org in an approximate placement of the temple in the numbering scheme - and it makes it easy to see how many there are total including either under construction or UC and announced temples.
For similar reasons I am in favor of keeping the two lists separate - and not combining them like lds.org and ldschurchtemples.com do. I think it is nice to go to the list and know immediately which ones are under construction and which ones are announced, and I think providing them in separate sections adds some value above what is available on those lists.
Since I brought up the issue because it seems strange to have a number for the temple on the temple's infobox - I will edit the infobox template so it puts in TBD for the number on Under Construction and Announced temples, that way we can leave a number in the data page and on this list.
In the mean time I have implemented the combination per Jgstokes - since the mixture of old and new templates is complicated and something I hope to get rid of soon. However, I would be in favor of restoring it as two sections. PS - I'm not quite sure we have a consensus on these issues yet - I mean we are getting there amongst us 3. However, perhaps we should solicit opinions from the wikiproject to make sure we have a wide range of viewpoints. -- Trödel 16:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
This has been fully implemented - I plan to do the same for all other statuses. Any thoughts-concerns before/as I get started. -- Trödel 17:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
The Panama Temple was dedicated on Sunday by President Thomas S. Monson. For verification of this, see President Monson dedicates LDS Church's 127th Temple, in Panama and LDS Church's 127th temple is dedicated in Panama. I would add Panama to the list of dedicated temples myself, but there is much about the used template that I don't understand, and I don't want to mess the list up. Could someone with more WP template knowledge than I have please fix this? Thanks. -- Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable ( talk) 16:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see GPS location information for each temple. Is there a reason why this is not there at present? TimRiker ( talk) 17:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Here are updates on the locations of newly announced temples:
See press release. Sorry not to oblige with the edit... attempt was unsuccessful. Jim ( talk) 22:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
It would be a good idea to add a coordinates parameter, making use of {{ coord}}. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 23:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is the Endowment House listed here as if it were a temple? It never was considered a temple; it was only a temporary location to administer temple ordinances (limited to the living only) while the Salt Lake Temple was being constructed; precedents at other locations include the Salt Lake City Council House and the Red Brick Store. It does not belong on this list as if it were a temple, though it is useful as a see also. If it must be included included, it needs to be part of a separate section listing all of the other documented locations where temple ordinances were preformed outside of a temple. -- 208.81.184.4 ( talk) 17:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)