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Given that everyone listed in this article is also listed at the broader
List of Freemasons... do we really need this list?
Perhaps keep the title but convert it to a redirect to
List of Freemasons.
Blueboar (
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16:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Renewing this question... should we redirect? Blueboar ( talk) 14:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC) Blueboar ( talk) 14:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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I believe James Madison should be added to the list. He was a Freemason, though his exact Degree dates are lost, his membership as a Brother of the Fraternity are well documented. A Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of Virginia, Br. John Dove, verified James Madison's membership, even stating that in 1800 A.D. James Madison helped Found and was a Charter Member of Hiram Lodge No. 59 of Virginia. In a letter to Madison dated February 11, 1795, still located in the Library of Congress, Governor John Francis Mercer of Maryland congratulated James Madison on becoming a Freemason. Further, on September 20, 1817, James Madison marched in Procession and in Regalia with Charlottesville Lodge No. 90 and Widow's Sons Lodge No. 60 for the Masonic Dedication of the Cornerstone to what would become the University of Virginia. As a Freemason (F.& A.M.) myself, I can certainly attest without doubt that had President Madison not been a Brother, he would not have been able to partake in these events and deeds. He should not be excluded because the date of his Raising, and the like, have been lost to antiquity. Thetruchairman ( talk) 09:25, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Should be titled "list of presidents that are/were officially freemasons", because the list is not closed... It's by the nature of a secret fraternity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk) 10:27, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
You'll see in this NYT reprint appearing in the Masonic Token of July 15 1881, written by Masons for Masons, it clearly references in the article 'The Anti-Masonic Defeat", that "this crushing defeat should not however discourage the anti-Masons. Their cause is a noble one. Garfield, Arthur, Hancock and English are all Freemasons, and as such will unquestionably aid one another in the future, as in the past, in every variety of crime. The accursed spirit of Freemasonry must be put down, and the anti-masons must never cease to nominate candidates until they finally triumph at the polls, in spite of the desperate and corrupt devices of their opponents"., the Masonic Token appearing to accept the membership of all candidates. Garfield is accepted and already on the list, Hancock is openly Charity Lodge #190, Norristown, Pennsylvania, and English's obituary in 1927 was clear he was Santia lodge no 25, AF/AM. That just leaves Arthur and it appears to be true? Virginia Courtsesan ( talk) 03:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Not all Presidents were listed needs to be up to date. 170.205.169.118 ( talk) 12:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Given that everyone listed in this article is also listed at the broader
List of Freemasons... do we really need this list?
Perhaps keep the title but convert it to a redirect to
List of Freemasons.
Blueboar (
talk)
16:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Renewing this question... should we redirect? Blueboar ( talk) 14:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC) Blueboar ( talk) 14:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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I believe James Madison should be added to the list. He was a Freemason, though his exact Degree dates are lost, his membership as a Brother of the Fraternity are well documented. A Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of Virginia, Br. John Dove, verified James Madison's membership, even stating that in 1800 A.D. James Madison helped Found and was a Charter Member of Hiram Lodge No. 59 of Virginia. In a letter to Madison dated February 11, 1795, still located in the Library of Congress, Governor John Francis Mercer of Maryland congratulated James Madison on becoming a Freemason. Further, on September 20, 1817, James Madison marched in Procession and in Regalia with Charlottesville Lodge No. 90 and Widow's Sons Lodge No. 60 for the Masonic Dedication of the Cornerstone to what would become the University of Virginia. As a Freemason (F.& A.M.) myself, I can certainly attest without doubt that had President Madison not been a Brother, he would not have been able to partake in these events and deeds. He should not be excluded because the date of his Raising, and the like, have been lost to antiquity. Thetruchairman ( talk) 09:25, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Should be titled "list of presidents that are/were officially freemasons", because the list is not closed... It's by the nature of a secret fraternity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk) 10:27, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
You'll see in this NYT reprint appearing in the Masonic Token of July 15 1881, written by Masons for Masons, it clearly references in the article 'The Anti-Masonic Defeat", that "this crushing defeat should not however discourage the anti-Masons. Their cause is a noble one. Garfield, Arthur, Hancock and English are all Freemasons, and as such will unquestionably aid one another in the future, as in the past, in every variety of crime. The accursed spirit of Freemasonry must be put down, and the anti-masons must never cease to nominate candidates until they finally triumph at the polls, in spite of the desperate and corrupt devices of their opponents"., the Masonic Token appearing to accept the membership of all candidates. Garfield is accepted and already on the list, Hancock is openly Charity Lodge #190, Norristown, Pennsylvania, and English's obituary in 1927 was clear he was Santia lodge no 25, AF/AM. That just leaves Arthur and it appears to be true? Virginia Courtsesan ( talk) 03:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Not all Presidents were listed needs to be up to date. 170.205.169.118 ( talk) 12:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)