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The two "States of primary affiliation" tables contain different states for Presidents:
Judging from their titles, they should contain the same information. Which states are correct? The accompanying image corresponds with neither table. 108.216.90.12 ( talk) 04:04, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Grant's home state (as opposed to his birth state) should be listed Illinois. It is confirmed as such by both the House and Senate journals, as preserved by the Library of Congress. I've added a citation to support this, so hopefully further edits are not necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethelred unraed ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
LOOK AT EISENHOWER!!!!!
On Thomas Jefferson's tombstone it says that his
The flag for Georgia is showing the flag of the country of Georgia and not the US State. However, it uses some flag macro to reference it so I'm not sure how to correct it.
Eye of slink (
talk)
03:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Figured it out, fixed. Eye of slink ( talk) 03:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Is there are reason we have multiple tables rather than a single table with multiple columns? If no one minds, I'll combine the information in "States of primary affiliation by president" and "Communities where presidents were born". I think that will clear up a lot of the confusion between primary affiliation and birth state. Hoof Hearted ( talk) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Article begins with the birth states with primary errors and raises doubt thereafter. Virginia is the birthplace of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler, Taylor, (W) Harrison, and Wilson. Research Historian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.5.175.252 ( talk) 15:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I have removed "Presidents by state of primary affiliation" list, as it's redundant given that there's a "States of primary affiliation by president" list, and the "British subjects" list, which is just trivial. They constitute excessive statistics, per Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I have also moved a table. Cheers. Drdpw ( talk) 22:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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No President is listed for CT, despite in other lists it showing one was born there. I believe it was GHWBush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoltonDani ( talk • contribs) 01:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The first table shows John Q Adams born in Braintree, MA, while the birthplace table below it shows him as born in Quincy, MA. First I thought that may be an accidental trransposition of the birthplace of John Adams to John Q Adams, but it turns out to be a bit more complicated. They were both born at a location that was in Braintree at their times of birth (1735 and 1767), which later (1792) became Quincy. Perhaps all these birthplace references should be the same: "Quincy (then Braintree)" or "Braintree (now Quincy)"? Encyclopaedia Britannica: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peasmould ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
It's now been reported that Donald Trump has now declared himself a resident of Florida rather than New York, and it looks like somebody has updated this table to reflect this notion. However, I'm not sure that this update is really correct and want to discuss this a bit. He had primarily been associated with New York prior to the election, during the campaign, and throughout the first several years of his presidency. Does declaring a new residency trump his past history for the purpose of this table? He is also now listed twice in the table, but I'm not convinced that that makes sense considering that this is a table of "primary affiliation" rather than "all affiliations". Ovenel ( talk) 15:18, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
What should be Hoover's home state? He was born in Iowa, but by all accounts he never lived there after his childhood, and he seemed to have lived in California the longest.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:301:4360:149E:37F4:B860:55B5 ( talk) 17:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Hoover's only affiliation with California is his attendance at Stanford University! He lived in Australia, China, and Europe until the 1910s. His primary residence in the 1920s was in California, BUT as the U.S. Secretary of Commerce he spent most of his time in Washington, DC. After his presidency, Hoover lived in New York City until his death. California is NOT really mentioned in most biographies (book or website sources) but rather Iowa as his home state. In addition, his presidential library is in Iowa. User:Scribatorian
On Thomas Jefferson's tombstone ( https://charlottesville.guide/jeffersons-tombstone/) it says "Born April 2, 1743 O.S., Died July 4, 1826." That's because Great Britain didn't adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752. (And Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday 14 September 1752). So it appears that the dates on this table are all in Gregorian format, and not in Julian. This should be indicated in the table. I have done so for Jefferson, but I do not know if the others are in Gregorian or Julian format. Simsong ( talk) 16:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
The list currently defines a state of primary affiliation as "the state with which each was primarily affiliated, due to residence, professional career, and electoral history". This is squishy. As the many disputes above make clear, people's residence and professional career and electoral history take them to many places, not necessarily in the same state. What is the secret sauce by which Wikipedia decides what state comes out as the winner? What criteria are we using? I know it when I see it is not a defensible criterion, because people see things differently. Wikipedia requires verifiability; is there a verifiable standard for 'primary affiliation'? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 18:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I just spotted this commented-out text: "THOUGH GRANT WAS A CITIZEN OF ILLINOIS DURING HIS PRESIDENCY, HE ONLY RESIDED THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND SPENT MOST OF PRE-PRESIDENCY YEARS IN OHIO. DO NOT CHANGE." The statement that he "SPENT MOST OF PRE-PRESIDENCY YEARS IN OHIO" is not true. Grant left Ohio in 1839, when he was 17 (I'll cite Jean Edward Smith's Grant (2001), ISBN 978-0-684-84926-3 for verifiability's sake: p. 23). He went to West Point, where he no doubt was considered an Ohioan until he joined the regular army, but Ohio was never his home thereafter. From 1843 to 1854, he was a career army officer without (arguably) a truly permanent home. He was posted to St Louis from 1843-44 (p. 29), Louisana and then Mexico during the war (pp. 33, 73), then St Louis again in 1848 before being posted to Sackets Harbor NY from 1848-49 (pp. 74-75), Detroit from 1849-51 (pp. 75-76), and Sackets Harbor again from 1851-52 (p. 80), before being posted out to Fort Vancouver from 1852-54 (first in Oregon Territory, then in Washington Territory, pp. 80 and 85) and finally Fort Humboldt in California in 1854, at which point he left the army (pp. 84-86). During this period, St Louis was the closest thing Grant had to a permanent home; it's where his wife lived while Grant was on the west coast. Back in civilian life, Grant lived in Missouri again from 1854-1860 (pp. 90, 93, 95) in St Louis County as well as the city of St Louis. He took up residence in Galena in 1860 (pp. 95, 104) and returned there occasionally as his duties permitted. He became president in 1869, officially as a citizen of Illinois, which matters constitutionally because a president's state has to be different from the vice president's state, or they can't receive electoral college votes from that state. In other words, for thirty years (1839-69), all of them years of adulthood, and including the years that made him a national hero, Grant did not live in Ohio. He then became president, returned to Galena, took his world tour, returned to Galena, and finally settled in New York for his final five or six years of life. As a Civil War hero and as President, he was officially an Illinoisan, even though he spent most of that time in DC or in the field. Q·L· 1968 ☿ 20:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Hoover is currently listed under Iowa. Is this correct?
I believe Taylor's primary association is with Kentucky. He spent his entire childhood in Louisville, commissioned the Kentuckian 7th Infantry Regiment at Terre aux Boeufs, his children were born and raised there, and is buried in a cemetery in Louisville named after him. According to a timeline from the Library of Congress, Taylor took up residence in Louisiana in 1840 (eight years before becoming president-elect in 1848) while at the same time maintaining slave-holding properties in Kentucky and Mississippi.-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 16:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC) According to Zachary Taylor: The American Presidents Series: The 12th President, 1849-1850 states on p. 11 ~ "Taylor's home state of Kentucky,..."-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 20:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, I have quite the strong opinion on this topic. I feel that only a President's home state(s) during their respective election(s) should be eligible to be considered for the primary state affiliation category. That's because nobody (sans President Ford) gets on this list without being elected. 43/44 have had to been elected in order to get the position, so I feel that's enough of a strong ratio to put emphasis on it.
So for example, since President Taylor was only elected once in 1848, and his home state for that election is listed as Louisiana, that should be the required state for his primary affiliation.
And with regards to President Eisenhower, he was elected in 1952 with his home state being New York, and re-elected in 1956 with his home state being Pennsylvania. So, those should be the only two states eligible for his primary affiliation. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 07:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
To clarify, only President Ford wasn't elected to EITHER the Presidency or Vice Presidency. I'm counting the Vice Presidency as those candidates have an official home state as well. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 08:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
@ AstrosOverrated:@ MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken: As I mentioned in a previous discussion, I can't see Eisenhower, listed under New York or Pennsylvania (which was merely a retirement home). This is a list of the state of primary affiliation based on residence, career, as well as electoral history. Ike spent his entire childhood (through high school) and a portion of his military career in Kansas according to his library (which is located in his hometown of Abilene, KS), thus he lived there longer than any other place. In addition, his statue inside the U.S. Capitol Building spells out "KANSAS" since that state gave Capitol Hill the statue in 2003 (thus associating him with the state). [4]-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 13:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
@ AstrosOverrated:@ MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken: From my previous discussion above, I believe Taylor's primary association is with Kentucky. He spent his entire childhood in Louisville, commissioned the Kentuckian 7th Infantry Regiment at Terre aux Boeufs, his children were born and raised there, and is buried in a cemetery in Louisville named after him. According to a timeline from the Library of Congress, Taylor took up residence in Louisiana in 1840 (eight years before becoming president-elect in 1848) while at the same time maintaining slave-holding properties in Kentucky and Mississippi. Also, according to Zachary Taylor: The American Presidents Series: The 12th President, 1849-1850 states on p. 11 ~ "Taylor's home state of Kentucky,..."-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
The previous edits on this article by @ AstrosOverrated: are making it appear more like a sport page (i.e. years by election winner), which it is NOT, and merely basing the home state of each U.S. President by the electoral college. The definition above the table clearly states: based on residence, professional career, as well as electoral history-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
All solid points, but I do have a few things to add.
1) Can't we make a distinction between 3 separate categories? I made an edit of adding states by elections won, as that's what I imagined the page looking like when I first found it. 16 states have by an election winner, yet it's near impossible to find that out about Louisiana without going through each election and counting. I think a birthplace category, a state category by elections won, and a primary affiliation category would all be sufficient and quite helpful.
2) I can see people wanting to list Eisenhower under Kansas and Taylor under Kentucky, but that only makes sense if the 3rd category for states and elections won I mentioned is added. "Home State" is usually a phrase heard only around election time. "Candidate A won their home state of" for example. The article title has "Home State" in it, and that is not a disputed term as the election comes and goes, and that's your listed state. That is clear. "Primary affiliation" is much more disputed and not always consistent. So I suggest to at least add the category, change the article title, or make another separate page for it.
3) I do believe the historical sites category is sufficient, although maybe a separate article, differentiating the birthplaces of presidents and the "Home State". AstrosOverrated ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
President | Primary State | Home State(s) |
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Dwight D. Eisenhower |
Kansas
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New York (
1952)
![]() Pennsylvania ( 1956) ![]() |
I fully support the proposed table above. It's clean and shows the difference between the categories. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 04:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
I think it will be a lot easier to read and would be more comprehensible if the presidents were listed in order, from 1-46. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claurbschnitzel ( talk • contribs) 14:49, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Map shows how mnay presidents were born in each state. It shows new jersey as having 0 presidents born there. But Grover Cleveland was Icecaprisun ( talk) 20:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Yes, this is a mistake and it should be corrected. Who has the ability to change the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.87.134 ( talk) 19:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Andrew Jackson's exact birthplace is unknown, since it was on the border between North and South Carolina. The Andrew Jackson article itself says "between North Carolina and South Carolina." Claiming he was definitely born in South Carolina is disingenuous, this article does a great job of explaining the dispute. I believe we should change his birth state to North Carolina or South Carolina since it is unknown. Pithon314 ( talk) 20:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
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The two "States of primary affiliation" tables contain different states for Presidents:
Judging from their titles, they should contain the same information. Which states are correct? The accompanying image corresponds with neither table. 108.216.90.12 ( talk) 04:04, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Grant's home state (as opposed to his birth state) should be listed Illinois. It is confirmed as such by both the House and Senate journals, as preserved by the Library of Congress. I've added a citation to support this, so hopefully further edits are not necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethelred unraed ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
LOOK AT EISENHOWER!!!!!
On Thomas Jefferson's tombstone it says that his
The flag for Georgia is showing the flag of the country of Georgia and not the US State. However, it uses some flag macro to reference it so I'm not sure how to correct it.
Eye of slink (
talk)
03:13, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Figured it out, fixed. Eye of slink ( talk) 03:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Is there are reason we have multiple tables rather than a single table with multiple columns? If no one minds, I'll combine the information in "States of primary affiliation by president" and "Communities where presidents were born". I think that will clear up a lot of the confusion between primary affiliation and birth state. Hoof Hearted ( talk) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Article begins with the birth states with primary errors and raises doubt thereafter. Virginia is the birthplace of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler, Taylor, (W) Harrison, and Wilson. Research Historian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.5.175.252 ( talk) 15:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I have removed "Presidents by state of primary affiliation" list, as it's redundant given that there's a "States of primary affiliation by president" list, and the "British subjects" list, which is just trivial. They constitute excessive statistics, per Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I have also moved a table. Cheers. Drdpw ( talk) 22:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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No President is listed for CT, despite in other lists it showing one was born there. I believe it was GHWBush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoltonDani ( talk • contribs) 01:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The first table shows John Q Adams born in Braintree, MA, while the birthplace table below it shows him as born in Quincy, MA. First I thought that may be an accidental trransposition of the birthplace of John Adams to John Q Adams, but it turns out to be a bit more complicated. They were both born at a location that was in Braintree at their times of birth (1735 and 1767), which later (1792) became Quincy. Perhaps all these birthplace references should be the same: "Quincy (then Braintree)" or "Braintree (now Quincy)"? Encyclopaedia Britannica: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peasmould ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
It's now been reported that Donald Trump has now declared himself a resident of Florida rather than New York, and it looks like somebody has updated this table to reflect this notion. However, I'm not sure that this update is really correct and want to discuss this a bit. He had primarily been associated with New York prior to the election, during the campaign, and throughout the first several years of his presidency. Does declaring a new residency trump his past history for the purpose of this table? He is also now listed twice in the table, but I'm not convinced that that makes sense considering that this is a table of "primary affiliation" rather than "all affiliations". Ovenel ( talk) 15:18, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
What should be Hoover's home state? He was born in Iowa, but by all accounts he never lived there after his childhood, and he seemed to have lived in California the longest.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:301:4360:149E:37F4:B860:55B5 ( talk) 17:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Hoover's only affiliation with California is his attendance at Stanford University! He lived in Australia, China, and Europe until the 1910s. His primary residence in the 1920s was in California, BUT as the U.S. Secretary of Commerce he spent most of his time in Washington, DC. After his presidency, Hoover lived in New York City until his death. California is NOT really mentioned in most biographies (book or website sources) but rather Iowa as his home state. In addition, his presidential library is in Iowa. User:Scribatorian
On Thomas Jefferson's tombstone ( https://charlottesville.guide/jeffersons-tombstone/) it says "Born April 2, 1743 O.S., Died July 4, 1826." That's because Great Britain didn't adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752. (And Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday 14 September 1752). So it appears that the dates on this table are all in Gregorian format, and not in Julian. This should be indicated in the table. I have done so for Jefferson, but I do not know if the others are in Gregorian or Julian format. Simsong ( talk) 16:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
The list currently defines a state of primary affiliation as "the state with which each was primarily affiliated, due to residence, professional career, and electoral history". This is squishy. As the many disputes above make clear, people's residence and professional career and electoral history take them to many places, not necessarily in the same state. What is the secret sauce by which Wikipedia decides what state comes out as the winner? What criteria are we using? I know it when I see it is not a defensible criterion, because people see things differently. Wikipedia requires verifiability; is there a verifiable standard for 'primary affiliation'? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 18:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I just spotted this commented-out text: "THOUGH GRANT WAS A CITIZEN OF ILLINOIS DURING HIS PRESIDENCY, HE ONLY RESIDED THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND SPENT MOST OF PRE-PRESIDENCY YEARS IN OHIO. DO NOT CHANGE." The statement that he "SPENT MOST OF PRE-PRESIDENCY YEARS IN OHIO" is not true. Grant left Ohio in 1839, when he was 17 (I'll cite Jean Edward Smith's Grant (2001), ISBN 978-0-684-84926-3 for verifiability's sake: p. 23). He went to West Point, where he no doubt was considered an Ohioan until he joined the regular army, but Ohio was never his home thereafter. From 1843 to 1854, he was a career army officer without (arguably) a truly permanent home. He was posted to St Louis from 1843-44 (p. 29), Louisana and then Mexico during the war (pp. 33, 73), then St Louis again in 1848 before being posted to Sackets Harbor NY from 1848-49 (pp. 74-75), Detroit from 1849-51 (pp. 75-76), and Sackets Harbor again from 1851-52 (p. 80), before being posted out to Fort Vancouver from 1852-54 (first in Oregon Territory, then in Washington Territory, pp. 80 and 85) and finally Fort Humboldt in California in 1854, at which point he left the army (pp. 84-86). During this period, St Louis was the closest thing Grant had to a permanent home; it's where his wife lived while Grant was on the west coast. Back in civilian life, Grant lived in Missouri again from 1854-1860 (pp. 90, 93, 95) in St Louis County as well as the city of St Louis. He took up residence in Galena in 1860 (pp. 95, 104) and returned there occasionally as his duties permitted. He became president in 1869, officially as a citizen of Illinois, which matters constitutionally because a president's state has to be different from the vice president's state, or they can't receive electoral college votes from that state. In other words, for thirty years (1839-69), all of them years of adulthood, and including the years that made him a national hero, Grant did not live in Ohio. He then became president, returned to Galena, took his world tour, returned to Galena, and finally settled in New York for his final five or six years of life. As a Civil War hero and as President, he was officially an Illinoisan, even though he spent most of that time in DC or in the field. Q·L· 1968 ☿ 20:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Hoover is currently listed under Iowa. Is this correct?
I believe Taylor's primary association is with Kentucky. He spent his entire childhood in Louisville, commissioned the Kentuckian 7th Infantry Regiment at Terre aux Boeufs, his children were born and raised there, and is buried in a cemetery in Louisville named after him. According to a timeline from the Library of Congress, Taylor took up residence in Louisiana in 1840 (eight years before becoming president-elect in 1848) while at the same time maintaining slave-holding properties in Kentucky and Mississippi.-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 16:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC) According to Zachary Taylor: The American Presidents Series: The 12th President, 1849-1850 states on p. 11 ~ "Taylor's home state of Kentucky,..."-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 20:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, I have quite the strong opinion on this topic. I feel that only a President's home state(s) during their respective election(s) should be eligible to be considered for the primary state affiliation category. That's because nobody (sans President Ford) gets on this list without being elected. 43/44 have had to been elected in order to get the position, so I feel that's enough of a strong ratio to put emphasis on it.
So for example, since President Taylor was only elected once in 1848, and his home state for that election is listed as Louisiana, that should be the required state for his primary affiliation.
And with regards to President Eisenhower, he was elected in 1952 with his home state being New York, and re-elected in 1956 with his home state being Pennsylvania. So, those should be the only two states eligible for his primary affiliation. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 07:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
To clarify, only President Ford wasn't elected to EITHER the Presidency or Vice Presidency. I'm counting the Vice Presidency as those candidates have an official home state as well. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 08:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
@ AstrosOverrated:@ MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken: As I mentioned in a previous discussion, I can't see Eisenhower, listed under New York or Pennsylvania (which was merely a retirement home). This is a list of the state of primary affiliation based on residence, career, as well as electoral history. Ike spent his entire childhood (through high school) and a portion of his military career in Kansas according to his library (which is located in his hometown of Abilene, KS), thus he lived there longer than any other place. In addition, his statue inside the U.S. Capitol Building spells out "KANSAS" since that state gave Capitol Hill the statue in 2003 (thus associating him with the state). [4]-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 13:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
@ AstrosOverrated:@ MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken: From my previous discussion above, I believe Taylor's primary association is with Kentucky. He spent his entire childhood in Louisville, commissioned the Kentuckian 7th Infantry Regiment at Terre aux Boeufs, his children were born and raised there, and is buried in a cemetery in Louisville named after him. According to a timeline from the Library of Congress, Taylor took up residence in Louisiana in 1840 (eight years before becoming president-elect in 1848) while at the same time maintaining slave-holding properties in Kentucky and Mississippi. Also, according to Zachary Taylor: The American Presidents Series: The 12th President, 1849-1850 states on p. 11 ~ "Taylor's home state of Kentucky,..."-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
The previous edits on this article by @ AstrosOverrated: are making it appear more like a sport page (i.e. years by election winner), which it is NOT, and merely basing the home state of each U.S. President by the electoral college. The definition above the table clearly states: based on residence, professional career, as well as electoral history-- Bergeronpp ( talk) 14:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
All solid points, but I do have a few things to add.
1) Can't we make a distinction between 3 separate categories? I made an edit of adding states by elections won, as that's what I imagined the page looking like when I first found it. 16 states have by an election winner, yet it's near impossible to find that out about Louisiana without going through each election and counting. I think a birthplace category, a state category by elections won, and a primary affiliation category would all be sufficient and quite helpful.
2) I can see people wanting to list Eisenhower under Kansas and Taylor under Kentucky, but that only makes sense if the 3rd category for states and elections won I mentioned is added. "Home State" is usually a phrase heard only around election time. "Candidate A won their home state of" for example. The article title has "Home State" in it, and that is not a disputed term as the election comes and goes, and that's your listed state. That is clear. "Primary affiliation" is much more disputed and not always consistent. So I suggest to at least add the category, change the article title, or make another separate page for it.
3) I do believe the historical sites category is sufficient, although maybe a separate article, differentiating the birthplaces of presidents and the "Home State". AstrosOverrated ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
President | Primary State | Home State(s) |
---|---|---|
Dwight D. Eisenhower |
Kansas
![]() |
New York (
1952)
![]() Pennsylvania ( 1956) ![]() |
I fully support the proposed table above. It's clean and shows the difference between the categories. AstrosOverrated ( talk) 04:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
I think it will be a lot easier to read and would be more comprehensible if the presidents were listed in order, from 1-46. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claurbschnitzel ( talk • contribs) 14:49, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Map shows how mnay presidents were born in each state. It shows new jersey as having 0 presidents born there. But Grover Cleveland was Icecaprisun ( talk) 20:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Yes, this is a mistake and it should be corrected. Who has the ability to change the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.87.134 ( talk) 19:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Andrew Jackson's exact birthplace is unknown, since it was on the border between North and South Carolina. The Andrew Jackson article itself says "between North Carolina and South Carolina." Claiming he was definitely born in South Carolina is disingenuous, this article does a great job of explaining the dispute. I believe we should change his birth state to North Carolina or South Carolina since it is unknown. Pithon314 ( talk) 20:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)