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Did this office ever exist? Or is the head of state of an independent Catalonia still called "President of the Generalitat"? If the Catalan Republic does state that Puigdemont (or anyone else) is the President (of Catalonia), I propose we create a new page called President of the Catalan Republic,
Hey BallenaBlanca, about this, I removed it because it's duplicated. Do you prefer removing it from the controversies section or from the lead? I think it's better to leave it for the controversies section, since it isn't a prominent controversy at all, but a minority of recent opinions (few months ago in this case) that go against the general consensus maintained for decades.
Also I don't think that's relevant enough to be at the lead. The sentence "don't consider the medieval Generalitat to be comparable with the contemporary Generalitat" seems obvious, in the sense that the institution suffered a lot of changes through the centuries. 14th century Generalitat is different from the 16th century one, just like the 20th century (republican) one is different from the 21st century one (today). Similarly, present day Spanish monarchy is very different compared to the Spanish (absolute) monarchy of centuries ago. Modern Generalitat is based in the medieval Generalitat, but adapted to modern times. The sentence "the contemporary Generalitat was created within the framework of the 2nd Spanish Republic" is also obvious, not controversial. -- 193.153.142.71 ( talk) 23:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
This has to be clear: we must comply with the Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Do not remove the summary of the lead. Also do not withdraw references nor worsen its templates. And remember do not remove maintenance templates.
More about this controversy here [4]. -- BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 17:47, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
The statement of a previous version of this article stating that such list "has been the traditional way of listing presidents, starting with Berenguer de Cruïlles" if factually wrong (there's no such "listing of presidents" anywhere in the writings of the times of Berenguer de Cruïlles) and the bibliographic references say nothing supporting such bizarre claim. This list was created ex novo by Josep M. Solé i Sabaté and the statement that his is just "The most recent stable version of the list" is disingenuous, to say the least. -- Danielhythloday ( talk) 16:09, 30 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielhythloday ( talk • contribs) 15:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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I was wondering if this list should include the presidents of the Commonwealth of Catalonia: Enric Prat de la Riba (1914-1917), Josep Puig i Cadafalch (1917-1924) and Alfons Sala i Argemí (1924-1925).
Of course, these were not presidents of the Generalitat, but they were presidents of a Catalan government. So as this is potentially controversial, I wanted to bring it up here before adding them to the list. Appreciate any thoughts on the matter. Grnrchst ( talk) 10:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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Did this office ever exist? Or is the head of state of an independent Catalonia still called "President of the Generalitat"? If the Catalan Republic does state that Puigdemont (or anyone else) is the President (of Catalonia), I propose we create a new page called President of the Catalan Republic,
Hey BallenaBlanca, about this, I removed it because it's duplicated. Do you prefer removing it from the controversies section or from the lead? I think it's better to leave it for the controversies section, since it isn't a prominent controversy at all, but a minority of recent opinions (few months ago in this case) that go against the general consensus maintained for decades.
Also I don't think that's relevant enough to be at the lead. The sentence "don't consider the medieval Generalitat to be comparable with the contemporary Generalitat" seems obvious, in the sense that the institution suffered a lot of changes through the centuries. 14th century Generalitat is different from the 16th century one, just like the 20th century (republican) one is different from the 21st century one (today). Similarly, present day Spanish monarchy is very different compared to the Spanish (absolute) monarchy of centuries ago. Modern Generalitat is based in the medieval Generalitat, but adapted to modern times. The sentence "the contemporary Generalitat was created within the framework of the 2nd Spanish Republic" is also obvious, not controversial. -- 193.153.142.71 ( talk) 23:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
This has to be clear: we must comply with the Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Do not remove the summary of the lead. Also do not withdraw references nor worsen its templates. And remember do not remove maintenance templates.
More about this controversy here [4]. -- BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 17:47, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
The statement of a previous version of this article stating that such list "has been the traditional way of listing presidents, starting with Berenguer de Cruïlles" if factually wrong (there's no such "listing of presidents" anywhere in the writings of the times of Berenguer de Cruïlles) and the bibliographic references say nothing supporting such bizarre claim. This list was created ex novo by Josep M. Solé i Sabaté and the statement that his is just "The most recent stable version of the list" is disingenuous, to say the least. -- Danielhythloday ( talk) 16:09, 30 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielhythloday ( talk • contribs) 15:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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I was wondering if this list should include the presidents of the Commonwealth of Catalonia: Enric Prat de la Riba (1914-1917), Josep Puig i Cadafalch (1917-1924) and Alfons Sala i Argemí (1924-1925).
Of course, these were not presidents of the Generalitat, but they were presidents of a Catalan government. So as this is potentially controversial, I wanted to bring it up here before adding them to the list. Appreciate any thoughts on the matter. Grnrchst ( talk) 10:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)