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The result of the move request was: Moved. There's consensus for move to the new titles with capitlization (
non-admin closure) –
Ammarpad (
talk) 05:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Lowercase, please per
MOS:JOBTITLES. Although there has been some resistance when applied to a few articles, the plural is obviously not a proper noun usage and should be in lowercase.
MOS:JOBTITLES seems clear about this, and Wikipedia should follow its own guidelines. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 18:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree the titles should use lowercase. The fact that other articles exist that break the normal article title conventions does not mean we should break it here.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 01:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support moving to new titles. My personal preference is to capitalize, but I do recognize that there's no consistency in that area among lists articles for heads of states & government.
GoodDay (
talk) 01:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - sure, move it. But capitalized. This lowercase nonsense it getting carried away. -
wolf 03:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - Will make it consistent with other lists and should be capitalized. It is a title and also a Wikipedia Article is a proper noun. -
Qballer82 (
talk) 03:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support move - Per Nom. As for the “Presidents/presidents” question... I lean towards capitalizing, but I know that there are those who disagree. I don’t think there is a clear (project wide) consensus on that question. So... we should not allow it to delay the move. We can always revisit capitalization issue later.
Blueboar (
talk) 11:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support but capitalize We do not have "List of prime ministers of Japan" or the like - where a specific title is used, then capitalization is standard on Wikipedia. "head of state" is not a "title" and would not be capitalized.
Collect (
talk) 12:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support. Makes sense, consistent with other similar articles. --
Coemgenus (
talk) 14:04, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose without lower-case "presidents".
WCCasey (
talk) 22:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 5 August 2019
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The result of the move request was: Speedy self-close as uncontroversial technical moves. Based on the rapid feedback, this is a clearly decided matter. (
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BarrelProof (
talk) 08:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
– Lowercase plural for lists of people who held a particular position, per
MOS:JOBTITLES and the recent multi-article RMs at
Talk:List of presidents of the United States and
Talk:List of presidents of Costa Rica, and the 16 other RMs in the last two years that were identified in that discussion. Perhaps these could be treated as uncontroversial "technical moves", given the outcome of those two most recent RMs, but the question has been somewhat controversial, and the titles of these articles have been the subject of previous RMs. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 20:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom and guideline. The title words "presidents" and "emperors" are descriptions, not proper nouns. Paine Ellsworth,
ed.put'r there 23:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support and speedy close. At this point, given the broad consensus that seems to have been reached with the recent discussion at
List of presidents of the United States, this should probably just be a technical request.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 00:05, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Speedy close and Support – Just do it. Repeatedly discussing the same well-settled question is pointless.
Dicklyon (
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The result of the move request was: Moved. There's consensus for move to the new titles with capitlization (
non-admin closure) –
Ammarpad (
talk) 05:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Lowercase, please per
MOS:JOBTITLES. Although there has been some resistance when applied to a few articles, the plural is obviously not a proper noun usage and should be in lowercase.
MOS:JOBTITLES seems clear about this, and Wikipedia should follow its own guidelines. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 18:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree the titles should use lowercase. The fact that other articles exist that break the normal article title conventions does not mean we should break it here.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 01:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support moving to new titles. My personal preference is to capitalize, but I do recognize that there's no consistency in that area among lists articles for heads of states & government.
GoodDay (
talk) 01:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - sure, move it. But capitalized. This lowercase nonsense it getting carried away. -
wolf 03:12, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - Will make it consistent with other lists and should be capitalized. It is a title and also a Wikipedia Article is a proper noun. -
Qballer82 (
talk) 03:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support move - Per Nom. As for the “Presidents/presidents” question... I lean towards capitalizing, but I know that there are those who disagree. I don’t think there is a clear (project wide) consensus on that question. So... we should not allow it to delay the move. We can always revisit capitalization issue later.
Blueboar (
talk) 11:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support but capitalize We do not have "List of prime ministers of Japan" or the like - where a specific title is used, then capitalization is standard on Wikipedia. "head of state" is not a "title" and would not be capitalized.
Collect (
talk) 12:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Support. Makes sense, consistent with other similar articles. --
Coemgenus (
talk) 14:04, 5 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose without lower-case "presidents".
WCCasey (
talk) 22:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 5 August 2019
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The result of the move request was: Speedy self-close as uncontroversial technical moves. Based on the rapid feedback, this is a clearly decided matter. (
non-admin closure) —
BarrelProof (
talk) 08:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
– Lowercase plural for lists of people who held a particular position, per
MOS:JOBTITLES and the recent multi-article RMs at
Talk:List of presidents of the United States and
Talk:List of presidents of Costa Rica, and the 16 other RMs in the last two years that were identified in that discussion. Perhaps these could be treated as uncontroversial "technical moves", given the outcome of those two most recent RMs, but the question has been somewhat controversial, and the titles of these articles have been the subject of previous RMs. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 20:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support per nom and guideline. The title words "presidents" and "emperors" are descriptions, not proper nouns. Paine Ellsworth,
ed.put'r there 23:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Support and speedy close. At this point, given the broad consensus that seems to have been reached with the recent discussion at
List of presidents of the United States, this should probably just be a technical request.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 00:05, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Speedy close and Support – Just do it. Repeatedly discussing the same well-settled question is pointless.
Dicklyon (
talk) 05:36, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
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