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I think this article would be better served as a timeline. It could make a nice feature article with some research and work. I'll see what I come up with over the next few days. -- peterwlowe 17 May 2005 (22:35 PT)
I agree, it should be in a timeline. -- cooltobekind 15 Feb 2006 (14:19 ET)
Timeline's a good idea, but I also think maybe there should be separate pages; at least for Quebec and BC, since there are so many scandals (I've barely taken the lid off BC so far; some scandals never quite had names; which is why I've linked the Doman Scandal to Herb Doman, and this kind of thing is pretty much necessary back in the colonial days (ah, Mr Joseph Trutch, we barely knew ya); scandals including Gov Douglas on four or five counts, including his mistreatment of Gov Blanshard, and also the Douglas Road which involved misappropriation of funds and disagreements with contractees over rates of reimbursement for investments; similarly the later Lillooet Trail fiasco, which also involved misappropriation of funds, as well as being a waste of money like the Fast Ferries (and was the largest capital expenditure of the provincial government until the late 1880s. One very important one from the 19th C. that comes to mind is Lord Dufferin's pronouncements on First Nations policy and other matters during his visit to British Columbia in the 1970s; if the King-Byng affair is in there then surely a political scandal involving a member (or in-law?) of the royal family. By the way has anyone heard of an Admiral Seymour from that period or thereabouts, RN? And other than scandals, there's just general govt ineptitude - which is really what Fast Ferries is; and left out of the list (so far) are such matters as Gustafsen Lake and the Seton Portage Incident during the Oka Crisis and similar events, including ongoing blockades on backroads in BC that other Canadians never hear about (it's not next to a major city is why. Even just in BC the scope of scandal is very wide:
Skookum1 07:06, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
How about Harbourgate? I remember it was a big deal in 1975... 2001:1970:5324:D600:251D:6B7A:280A:5FFB ( talk) 05:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
The American equivalent is called Political_scandals_of_the_United_States. Should we perhaps rename this article, or put a redirect at Political_scandals_of_Canada? (I'd go ahead put a redirect, but I have no idea how.) Toresica ( talk) 02:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
It seems that is *a lot* of recent scandal's missing from the list. I'm hearing about them monthly but I don't see any of them in the list, even the ones that have been verified or admitted to. Is there someone who tracks this kind of thing from a non-partisan standpoint? brill ( talk) 18:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I understand removing this as uncited, but part of the problem with finding a cite for it is CanWestGlobal's archives were ordered destroyed in 1993 by Izzy Asper when he bought the chain; it's not only this scandal that we can't easily find refs for but many others, e.g. the Bonner Scandal, Bill Bennett's Doman Scandal (which was a red herring at the time questions were being raised about his brother Russell's buying up land in the Nicola Valley before the Coquihalla announcement; and the graft overruns on the Coquihalla are a further difficult-to-cite item from this era; also the full story of Fantasy Gardens). The driver's licensing scandal is well known to older BCers, 300,000 licenses or so were issued via a $3000 bribe split between examiners and translators and instructors. ICBC was going to prosecute around 30,000 of them and the Chinese community protested that it would be "racist to proceed" because 98% of them (the figure is around that, 98.5% I remember) were Chinese. It might turn up in some book of recent history somewhere, you won't be able to find the newspaper cites because they have all been hidden/destroyed unless someone were to go spend time in the Archives at UBC or SFU or VCA or BCArch or the VPL.....could be there's stuff in the Globe and Mail's online archive but I don't have access to it (any uni student does though). Also hard to cite from before 1993 is the so-called Kelowna Accord (1983) and other matters connected to the Solidarity Crisis in BC that year. Skookum1 ( talk) 03:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Some parts of this article have the political party clearly noted, while others (namely in the Federal level) do not. Could this be amended for consistency and ease of access to information? Stats would also be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.16.131.17 ( talk) 22:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
I did a general Google search for Canadian political scandals and found this article amongst the first returns. This is not a list of political scandals, it is partisan attack progaganda. Scores of major scandals are conveniently not listed, while others that are not scandals at all but the government of the particular day exercising its democratic right to do what it deems appropriate. I do not have the time or inclination to do the extensive research and editing to correct the glaring inequities of this article. It took thirty minutes alone just to find a means of posting an opinion about this article. Wikipedia help is nothing more than links to links to links to links, reiterating the same information over and over again in reworded forms without providing the actual information or the links being sought. This article should be deleted outright and not resurrected under any other title. It is highly doubtful that anyone could be found to conduct the extensive non-partisan research necessary. Morever, Wikipedia is supposed to be an information source, not a political forum, little less a clearly partisan one. I found zero information about where the actual proposal for deletion is supposed to be filed, since as a alluded above, fifty iterations about but absolutely nothing concerning where. I leave this to any interested party who knows how this is done to submit it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Political Ethics ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I absolutely agree ....Delete this page or update it with information from ALL parties. — Preceding
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Constituency spending scandal, 2018 harassment scandal, Ed Martin scandal, Muskrat Falls cost overruns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbq430 ( talk • contribs) 07:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Shouldn't we include the Emergency Act Scandal? Blangland ( talk) 17:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
I feel if we are including scandals such as blocking investigations like the “Canadian Afghan detainee issue” then it should also include incidents such as;
“Liberals covered up incriminating evidence about the RCMP interference scandal”
“Liberals block bid to force campaign strategist to testify about MPs' budgets” https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6099884
“Liberals block ethics probe after public funds paid to firm run by Trudeau friend” https://nationalpost.com/news/conservatives-accused-of-engineering-fake-scandal-over-funds-paid-to-firm-run-by-trudeau-friend/wcm/6fb62356-a0f6-4395-ad6a-dadae70d6b4e/amp/
“Liberals shut down meeting to question RCMP commissioner on SNC-Lavalin probe” https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberals-shut-down-meeting-question-rcmp-commissioner-snc-lavalin/wcm/e83fb108-adb5-4927-9646-e210428c0521/amp/
“Trudeau accused of stalling on public inquiry into foreign interference” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/politics/article-trudeau-accused-of-stalling-on-public-inquiry-into-foreign/
“Trudeau accused of attempting to cover up WE charity scandal by proroguing parliament” https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/18/justin-trudeau-scandal-prorogue-parliament 2001:1970:4AE5:A300:7D78:FC87:ACB9:28D9 ( talk) 04:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
This article (which is extremely incomplete if attempting to be a list of all notable scandals in Canadian history) seems to be the pet project of right wing trolls on Reddit. A casual observer would assume, as per the linked comment, that Canadian politics was virtually scandal-free prior to ~2000. Any chance an experience editor could take a look at the state of the article? Wikipedia isnt supposed to be a soapbox and the article as it stands places undue weight on the recent past of a 150 year old parliamentary democracy.
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I think this article would be better served as a timeline. It could make a nice feature article with some research and work. I'll see what I come up with over the next few days. -- peterwlowe 17 May 2005 (22:35 PT)
I agree, it should be in a timeline. -- cooltobekind 15 Feb 2006 (14:19 ET)
Timeline's a good idea, but I also think maybe there should be separate pages; at least for Quebec and BC, since there are so many scandals (I've barely taken the lid off BC so far; some scandals never quite had names; which is why I've linked the Doman Scandal to Herb Doman, and this kind of thing is pretty much necessary back in the colonial days (ah, Mr Joseph Trutch, we barely knew ya); scandals including Gov Douglas on four or five counts, including his mistreatment of Gov Blanshard, and also the Douglas Road which involved misappropriation of funds and disagreements with contractees over rates of reimbursement for investments; similarly the later Lillooet Trail fiasco, which also involved misappropriation of funds, as well as being a waste of money like the Fast Ferries (and was the largest capital expenditure of the provincial government until the late 1880s. One very important one from the 19th C. that comes to mind is Lord Dufferin's pronouncements on First Nations policy and other matters during his visit to British Columbia in the 1970s; if the King-Byng affair is in there then surely a political scandal involving a member (or in-law?) of the royal family. By the way has anyone heard of an Admiral Seymour from that period or thereabouts, RN? And other than scandals, there's just general govt ineptitude - which is really what Fast Ferries is; and left out of the list (so far) are such matters as Gustafsen Lake and the Seton Portage Incident during the Oka Crisis and similar events, including ongoing blockades on backroads in BC that other Canadians never hear about (it's not next to a major city is why. Even just in BC the scope of scandal is very wide:
Skookum1 07:06, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
How about Harbourgate? I remember it was a big deal in 1975... 2001:1970:5324:D600:251D:6B7A:280A:5FFB ( talk) 05:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
The American equivalent is called Political_scandals_of_the_United_States. Should we perhaps rename this article, or put a redirect at Political_scandals_of_Canada? (I'd go ahead put a redirect, but I have no idea how.) Toresica ( talk) 02:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
It seems that is *a lot* of recent scandal's missing from the list. I'm hearing about them monthly but I don't see any of them in the list, even the ones that have been verified or admitted to. Is there someone who tracks this kind of thing from a non-partisan standpoint? brill ( talk) 18:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I understand removing this as uncited, but part of the problem with finding a cite for it is CanWestGlobal's archives were ordered destroyed in 1993 by Izzy Asper when he bought the chain; it's not only this scandal that we can't easily find refs for but many others, e.g. the Bonner Scandal, Bill Bennett's Doman Scandal (which was a red herring at the time questions were being raised about his brother Russell's buying up land in the Nicola Valley before the Coquihalla announcement; and the graft overruns on the Coquihalla are a further difficult-to-cite item from this era; also the full story of Fantasy Gardens). The driver's licensing scandal is well known to older BCers, 300,000 licenses or so were issued via a $3000 bribe split between examiners and translators and instructors. ICBC was going to prosecute around 30,000 of them and the Chinese community protested that it would be "racist to proceed" because 98% of them (the figure is around that, 98.5% I remember) were Chinese. It might turn up in some book of recent history somewhere, you won't be able to find the newspaper cites because they have all been hidden/destroyed unless someone were to go spend time in the Archives at UBC or SFU or VCA or BCArch or the VPL.....could be there's stuff in the Globe and Mail's online archive but I don't have access to it (any uni student does though). Also hard to cite from before 1993 is the so-called Kelowna Accord (1983) and other matters connected to the Solidarity Crisis in BC that year. Skookum1 ( talk) 03:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Some parts of this article have the political party clearly noted, while others (namely in the Federal level) do not. Could this be amended for consistency and ease of access to information? Stats would also be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.16.131.17 ( talk) 22:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
I did a general Google search for Canadian political scandals and found this article amongst the first returns. This is not a list of political scandals, it is partisan attack progaganda. Scores of major scandals are conveniently not listed, while others that are not scandals at all but the government of the particular day exercising its democratic right to do what it deems appropriate. I do not have the time or inclination to do the extensive research and editing to correct the glaring inequities of this article. It took thirty minutes alone just to find a means of posting an opinion about this article. Wikipedia help is nothing more than links to links to links to links, reiterating the same information over and over again in reworded forms without providing the actual information or the links being sought. This article should be deleted outright and not resurrected under any other title. It is highly doubtful that anyone could be found to conduct the extensive non-partisan research necessary. Morever, Wikipedia is supposed to be an information source, not a political forum, little less a clearly partisan one. I found zero information about where the actual proposal for deletion is supposed to be filed, since as a alluded above, fifty iterations about but absolutely nothing concerning where. I leave this to any interested party who knows how this is done to submit it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Political Ethics ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I absolutely agree ....Delete this page or update it with information from ALL parties. — Preceding
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Constituency spending scandal, 2018 harassment scandal, Ed Martin scandal, Muskrat Falls cost overruns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbq430 ( talk • contribs) 07:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Shouldn't we include the Emergency Act Scandal? Blangland ( talk) 17:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
I feel if we are including scandals such as blocking investigations like the “Canadian Afghan detainee issue” then it should also include incidents such as;
“Liberals covered up incriminating evidence about the RCMP interference scandal”
“Liberals block bid to force campaign strategist to testify about MPs' budgets” https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6099884
“Liberals block ethics probe after public funds paid to firm run by Trudeau friend” https://nationalpost.com/news/conservatives-accused-of-engineering-fake-scandal-over-funds-paid-to-firm-run-by-trudeau-friend/wcm/6fb62356-a0f6-4395-ad6a-dadae70d6b4e/amp/
“Liberals shut down meeting to question RCMP commissioner on SNC-Lavalin probe” https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberals-shut-down-meeting-question-rcmp-commissioner-snc-lavalin/wcm/e83fb108-adb5-4927-9646-e210428c0521/amp/
“Trudeau accused of stalling on public inquiry into foreign interference” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/politics/article-trudeau-accused-of-stalling-on-public-inquiry-into-foreign/
“Trudeau accused of attempting to cover up WE charity scandal by proroguing parliament” https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/18/justin-trudeau-scandal-prorogue-parliament 2001:1970:4AE5:A300:7D78:FC87:ACB9:28D9 ( talk) 04:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
This article (which is extremely incomplete if attempting to be a list of all notable scandals in Canadian history) seems to be the pet project of right wing trolls on Reddit. A casual observer would assume, as per the linked comment, that Canadian politics was virtually scandal-free prior to ~2000. Any chance an experience editor could take a look at the state of the article? Wikipedia isnt supposed to be a soapbox and the article as it stands places undue weight on the recent past of a 150 year old parliamentary democracy.
2605:B100:1132:1E35:E171:FA87:83EC:A819 ( talk) 16:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)